Whitemondeo 1st Gear July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 bro, in such high COE period, everyone try to squeeze COE value to last day, don't understand why you replaced only 4 years Altis by non-impressive Impreza, in term of FC, engine response, resale value all lost to Altis? bro, there are always several reasons behind every decision. 1) Bought the Altis Elegance model new 4years ago at 72K with COE at 30K, Sold it at 67.5k after 4 years plus of usage. 2) Initial plan was to replace with the latest Altis @118.8k. However, don't have the black interior we wanted on white exterior. Hence, check out the XV and Impreza. Wife enjoys driving my XT and would love to placement with the XV. Unfortunately, it was very bare and price 10k below Altis. Took the impreza out for test drive and the price was exactly 20K cheaper than Altis with 5 years warranty and 5 years serving package. 3) The Impreza is stable in high speed as well as taking high speed corner. (have to trade-off with the FC and slower pick-up due to the weight) 4) It will be safer should my elder son start driving next year in the impreza rather than Altis. Hence, we selected Impreza over Altis, XV and Mazda 3. ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocus Turbocharged July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 (edited) bro, there are always several reasons behind every decision. 1) Bought the Altis Elegance model new 4years ago at 72K with COE at 30K, Sold it at 67.5k after 4 years plus of usage. 2) Initial plan was to replace with the latest Altis @118.8k. However, don't have the black interior we wanted on white exterior. Hence, check out the XV and Impreza. Wife enjoys driving my XT and would love to placement with the XV. Unfortunately, it was very bare and price 10k below Altis. Took the impreza out for test drive and the price was exactly 20K cheaper than Altis with 5 years warranty and 5 years serving package. 3) The Impreza is stable in high speed as well as taking high speed corner. (have to trade-off with the FC and slower pick-up due to the weight) 4) It will be safer should my elder son start driving next year in the impreza rather than Altis. Hence, we selected Impreza over Altis, XV and Mazda 3. Your XT is the current version(SJ) or the previous version?(SH) What is your take so far? Edited July 27, 2015 by Pocus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sopskysalat 4th Gear July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 Hi, Questions from me, please pardon me if I ask stupid questions. 1) If we keep the rpm below 2000 which the peak torque will kick in, will it save fuel? Some said to accelerate it to cruising speed early so gear will reach the smaller ratio faster and engine will work less harder, thus, save fuel. 2) As long as we keep rpm away from boost, it should work like a NA engine, thus saving fuel? I am keen on the XT version but do not want to buy another car that gives only 7-8km/L. My current 2L ride is very heavy in city driving though most cars will be around the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitemondeo 1st Gear July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 Your XT is the current version(SJ) or the previous version?(SH) What is your take so far? Mine is the current version. As mentioned previously, overall it is a well all round SUV and I managed to clock an avg of 12.5km/ ltr base on 90%expressway. However, also mentioned, the power rear gate is disappointing as it is retarded. Also, If you pick up your passenger and has something to load into the trunk, you need to shift the gear level into "P" before activating the button. Nothing will happen if your gear level in "D, N or R" except P mode. With the current pricing, would suggest requesting more freebies from your SE. Beside the 5 years service package, the usual carmat and solar film, they should include front and rear cam as per last year promotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 (edited) Hi, Questions from me, please pardon me if I ask stupid questions. 1) If we keep the rpm below 2000 which the peak torque will kick in, will it save fuel? Some said to accelerate it to cruising speed early so gear will reach the smaller ratio faster and engine will work less harder, thus, save fuel. 2) As long as we keep rpm away from boost, it should work like a NA engine, thus saving fuel? I am keen on the XT version but do not want to buy another car that gives only 7-8km/L. My current 2L ride is very heavy in city driving though most cars will be around the same. honestly speaking, if you so care of FC, better keep away from Subaru, my experience if 100% urban driving condition, XT only can achieve 8km+-/L, subject to traffic condition and travel distance, if off AC, maybe got 10 to 20% better, actually in current market you hard to find a 2.0L car can achieve above 10km/l in such congestion urban driving, those low cc Jap car such as Vezel, Qashiqa got very good FC feedback Edited July 27, 2015 by Quantum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sopskysalat 4th Gear July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 honestly speaking, if you so care of FC, better keep away from Subaru, my experience if 100% urban driving condition, XT only can achieve 8km+-/L, subject to traffic condition and travel distance, if off AC, maybe got 10 to 20% better, actually in current market you hard to find a 2.0L car can achieve above 10km/l in such congestion urban driving, those low cc Jap car such as Vezel, Qashiqa got very good FC feedback Hi Quantum, I agreed with you. Power / Fuel, can only choose one. 8+ is not too bad a figure given the power output. An urban car that saves is probably prius or EV (not in singapore context now). But i have to admit that my company actually pays for my fuel bill, but still.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 Hi, Questions from me, please pardon me if I ask stupid questions. 1) If we keep the rpm below 2000 which the peak torque will kick in, will it save fuel? Some said to accelerate it to cruising speed early so gear will reach the smaller ratio faster and engine will work less harder, thus, save fuel. 2) As long as we keep rpm away from boost, it should work like a NA engine, thus saving fuel? I am keen on the XT version but do not want to buy another car that gives only 7-8km/L. My current 2L ride is very heavy in city driving though most cars will be around the same. If you are keeping the rpm below 2000rpm, you are overly light foot. You will never enjoy this car. This car are not suitable for you.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
db597 1st Gear July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 1) If we keep the rpm below 2000 which the peak torque will kick in, will it save fuel? Some said to accelerate it to cruising speed early so gear will reach the smaller ratio faster and engine will work less harder, thus, save fuel. 2) As long as we keep rpm away from boost, it should work like a NA engine, thus saving fuel? I am keen on the XT version but do not want to buy another car that gives only 7-8km/L. My current 2L ride is very heavy in city driving though most cars will be around the same. Driving with a light foot will always save fuel, whether with a TC or NA engine.. If you want to monitor, there is a boost gauge on the display - if you don't boost often it won't burn too much fuel. Hard to estimate what fuel consumption you will get without knowing your driving mix and habits. With my Forester XT I get around 9.5km/l driving a mix of expressway and city to work. Generally I don't boost much - just when joining expressways, or when need some speed to come out to main road / changing lanes. Just 1 generation ago, I was getting this level of economy driving on these same routes with my 2.0L NA Honda Accord. The Accord had not enough power (should have bought the 2.4L), so I often had to step hard on the accelerator.. In comparison, now I have 4WD and also the power level of a 3.5L car. Considering this, to have the similar level of fuel consumption is a good result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
subzeroes Neutral Newbie July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 I am considering the FXT too and also curious how the Black Edition look like. Anyone saw the Black Edition FXT before? Also heard from the salesperson Levorg is coming to this tiny island end of year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 I am considering the FXT too and also curious how the Black Edition look like. Anyone saw the Black Edition FXT before? Also heard from the salesperson Levorg is coming to this tiny island end of year. I saw it in the showroom, to me it don't worth the $8k extra according to the SE. All are cosmetic only which are done locally. The only thing nicer is the seat is more sporty and better support. For this $8k, I rather use it for a holiday with my family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocus Turbocharged July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 (edited) I am considering the FXT too and also curious how the Black Edition look like. Anyone saw the Black Edition FXT before? Also heard from the salesperson Levorg is coming to this tiny island end of year.Levorg coming?? Really??Hmmm... Anyway the black edition is too exp. Most of the stuff can be done outside. Tjeain attraction is the leather seats which uses a different type of leather with STI embossings. Nice but not worth. The parts of the BE visible: -STI front lip -blacken grille -STI rear bummer spoiler -door side metal sills -boot metal protector -cf interior panel -sti gearknob -suede leather door panels -sti leather embossed seats Except leather parts, the rest can buy from them separately. Edited July 27, 2015 by Pocus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 Levorg coming?? Really?? Hmmm... Anyway the black edition is too exp. Most of the stuff can be done outside. Tjeain attraction is the leather seats which uses a different type of leather with STI embossings. Nice but not worth. real FXT STI up to 300bph/400Nm, only add STI logo cost 8k, not worthy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 Driving with a light foot will always save fuel, whether with a TC or NA engine.. If you want to monitor, there is a boost gauge on the display - if you don't boost often it won't burn too much fuel. Hard to estimate what fuel consumption you will get without knowing your driving mix and habits. With my Forester XT I get around 9.5km/l driving a mix of expressway and city to work. Generally I don't boost much - just when joining expressways, or when need some speed to come out to main road / changing lanes. Just 1 generation ago, I was getting this level of economy driving on these same routes with my 2.0L NA Honda Accord. The Accord had not enough power (should have bought the 2.4L), so I often had to step hard on the accelerator.. In comparison, now I have 4WD and also the power level of a 3.5L car. Considering this, to have the similar level of fuel consumption is a good result. actually FXT during urban driving, most time engine under 2000rpm, in term of turbo doesn't cut in, at this rpm it can follow up the traffic stream, unless change lane, pickup etc, short time boost up to above 2000rpm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 actually FXT during urban driving, most time engine under 2000rpm, in term of turbo doesn't cut in, at this rpm it can follow up the traffic stream, unless change lane, pickup etc, short time boost up to above 2000rpm What is the rpm when cruising at 100km/h? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 What is the rpm when cruising at 100km/h? about 1700 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 If you are keeping the rpm below 2000rpm, you are overly light foot. You will never enjoy this car. This car are not suitable for you.. buy a car and drive like kuniang. Take a cab better and less stress sitting at rear seat. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 (edited) buy a car and drive like kuniang. Take a cab better and less stress sitting at rear seat. And to keep below 2000rpm, better to keep to the left slow lane... NOT hogging the right... about 1700 Edited July 27, 2015 by Tohto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocus Turbocharged July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 And to keep below 2000rpm, better to keep to the left slow lane... NOT hogging the right... If the gear ratio is good, 2k rpm is not road jogging ok. Lol ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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