2016 / 2017 Subaru Impreza

[wdldalian]

Went to see them again, and finally decided to get the 1.6 version.

Difference: 2.0 and 1.6 only performance difference due to engine's capacity, body kits and the gear shifters(available on 2.0 and not 1.6). No choice already, my current car already in hospital and left up to May 2017.

 

Pretty good value among the rest, IMO after some comparisons and considerations for the following makes:

1) Mitsubishi Lancer/Attriage - Last gen ago overalls, Jap alike interiors

1.1) Exterior: 2.5/5

1.2) Interior: 2/5

1.3) Engine: -IDK- (never test drove)

1.4) Drive: -IDK-

 

2) Toyota Altis - Balanced 1/2 gen ago overalls, Jap alike interiors

2.1) Exterior: 4/5 (Conservatively modern look, have wow factor comparing to its previous model) 

2.2) Interior: 3/5 (Typical Toyota style with some gadgetry upgrades, dashboard a little too high, have the "hindering" field of view, esp when objects are closer feeling, maybe I'm just not used to higher dashboards)

2.3) Engine: 3/5 (Very balanced gear ratio)

2.4) Drive: 3/5 (Comfy very typical Jap car driving feel. May not be too comfortable for long distance driving)

 

3) Mazda 3 - Best looking exterior award with Euro alike interiors, worrying engine response [to get out of dangerous or nasty situations, reacts after 0.5 - 1s after squeezing the paddle] and able to feel the roll when engaging a sharper turn in faster speeds)

3.1) Exterior: 5/5 (Wow... and Wow! They've definitely done something right in this department)

3.2) Interior: 3.5/5 (Better than Altis good touch on the additional display at the driver seat, innovative)

3.3) Engine: 2/5 (Under powered and slow response)

3.4) Drive: 2/5 (Felt unsafe when it comes to sharper turns with speed and the need for emergency power to get out of situations, cross between Jap and Euro car driving feel)

 

4) Kia K3 - Balanced 1/2 gen ago overalls, Euro alike interiors (Best tech among these, but, lower end than Impreza)

4.1) Exterior: 3.5/5 (Front design have mixed reviews among my friends, either u like or don't like. Loved the back, esp the not blinding break lights)

4.2) Interior: 3.5/5 (The best among all, ventilated seats (only KIA has for this range), more gadgets among these)

4.3) Engine: 3/5 (More balanced similar to the Altis but, feels that Altis is just slightly more powerful)

4.4) Drive: 3/5 (Comfy very typical Jap and a little Euro car driving feel. May be more comfortable for long distance driving compared to Altis)

 

5) Chev Cruze

5.1) Exterior: 3.5/5 (Nice overall masculine look)

5.2) Interior: 2.5/5 (A little more plastic feel, feels a little last gen too)

5.3) Engine: -IDK-

5.4) Drive: -IDK-

 

6) WV Jetta

6.1) Exterior: 3/5 (Just a little modernization from its previous model, still nice, but no Wow factor)

6.2) Interior: 2.5/5 (Feels last gen ago, but, knowing WV already a very good jump)

6.3) Engine: 3.5/5 (Powerful turbo engine, worring gearbox and mechanics issue, bursts holes in your pocket the size of f**king Jupiter)

6.4) Drive: 4/5 (Amazing, solid feel entering and exiting tighter turns. Fast response upon pedal squeeze, feels like manual car response, just a slight bit slower. I'm driving a manual car now)

 

7) Honda Civic

7.1) Exterior: 4.5/5 (Very good looking, especially the break lights, out of conventional, done it right too)

7.2) Interior: 2.5/5 (Current gen gadgets with left side blind spot detector)

7.3) Engine: -IDK-

7.4) Drive: -IDK-

 

8) Subaru Impreza Feb 2017

8.1) Exterior: 4/5 (Big design restyle since it's last version, IMO better looking than Altis and KIA)

8.2) Interior: 5/5 (Better than current gen gadgets with both side side blind spot detector, double screen infotainment system, tyre pressure gauge)

8.3) Engine: 4/5 (IMO, good balance between power and comfort when you need it. Of course, not as powerful as Jetta.

8.4) Drive: 4.5/5 (Jap car but, drive feels like Euro car. SImilar to Jetta feel)

IMO, I'm a light footer so, the current Feb 2017 Impreza with more focused gear ratio towards the low and highs is a lil too powerful for me.

 

Was offered $97,800 and comes with the following:

1. Warranty

1.1 Mechanical parts, 5 years, Example, gear box and engine

1.2 Electrical parts, 2 years, Example, infotainment systems, etc.

1.3 General T&C applies, Example, excludes wear and tear

 

2. Accessories

2.1 Solar films, and also darker at the back side of the car

 

2.2 Mats (which I courteously declined, easily get a set from Malaysia cheaply. And I do Synthetic Grasses, I'll customer cut and put synthetic grass as car mats for my cars. Really nice and refreshing to see some greens in the car. Even though, it's actually fake. Haha..)

 

2.3 Front Cam (which I courteously declined as well. Value of approx. SGD 200 ++, could easily be done outside and not too complex to do. Anyway, previously bought a car mirror set equipped with front cam behind the mirror and back cam from China and yet to use.)

 

2.4 Swapped 2.2 & 2.3 for the following as I feel, it's safer to be done as Subaru in case 3rd party workshops did a bad job:

2.4.1 Auto car lock + beeps when you lock and unlock your car worth $300 ++ (Please be more discrete about this as this is a bro, bro arrangement with him and I'm not supposed to say out that openly.)

 

2.5 Additional item bought with the "Duo Points" after purchasing the car

2.5.1 Collapsible side mirrors as you turn of the car and start the car.

 

3. Need to get from Subaru to enjoy above price

3.1 Loan @ 70%, 7 years

3.2 Insurance (NCD + 5% rebates provided)

3.3 Non-guaranteed COE Bidding, 8 times.

 

4 Delivery/Lead-time

4.1 Only arrive Singapore around Mid March 2017 and possible to get your hands on the wheels by end March/early April due to clearances.

4.2 If COE bidding bo dio, than have to wait longer.

 

The audio system Subaru is better than the rest too.

However, I'm quite particular(can say I'm an audiophile) about music as it helps me to distress.

Hopefully, able to get my active subwoofer to work in this car. Will test out Ah Meng found in this forum and revert if there's any thing.

 

Hope the above helps!

 

P.S. After writing, I think I can be a car reviewer leh! HAHA!

 

Hi bro,

 

Thanks for your sharing. I think you missed out Elantra which is an important player in this segment. It has ventilated seats as well. Ford Focus is also in this segment.

 

May I know whether your price includes trade-in discount of 2k?

[Jonnyx]

Hi bro,

 

Thanks for your sharing. I think you missed out Elantra which is an important player in this segment. It has ventilated seats as well. Ford Focus is also in this segment.

 

May I know whether your price includes trade-in discount of 2k?

Hello bro,

 

Hey you're welcome and no problem bro. Just sharing my findings. So that, someone could use my information for their consideration. Anyway, these information will just die with me as I age. Might as well share it out for others to use and help. :)

 

Oh ya! Sorry, I forgot to include the SGD 2,000 in house trade in discount that has already been factored in/included into above price of SGD 97,800.

 

Didn't took a look and test both Elantra and Ford Focus, didn't like them/didn't appeal to me.

So, unable to share and discuss about these 2. 

 

Maybe someone else could do so and help add up. hee hee..

 

Thanks for the praises, greatly appreciated it.

Edited February 16, 2017 by Jonnyx

[999]

Hi bro,

 

Thanks for your sharing. I think you missed out Elantra which is an important player in this segment. It has ventilated seats as well. Ford Focus is also in this segment.

 

May I know whether your price includes trade-in discount of 2k?

Elantra interior especially the centre dashboard look like taxi. 

 

Focus centre console look like Impreza. Aircon arrangement very similar

[Xedef]

So happy for u. U will get it sooner than u think. Once got your ride, do share with us your ride and the FC. 

[Jonnyx]

So happy for u. U will get it sooner than u think. Once got your ride, do share with us your ride and the FC. 

 

Thanks bro, hopefully this ride no problems can already. 

 

Just worried about this new Global Platform thing.

1st of its line. Not sure about its reliability yet.

 

Will share about the FC after I drove this car for a period when possible.

Based on what I remember, I think the FC I saw was 13km+ when I test drove.

I did squeeze the paddle a bit though. Think it went to 12km+ after that.

[LT66]

Went to see them again, and finally decided to get the 1.6 version.

Difference: 2.0 and 1.6 only performance difference due to engine's capacity, body kits and the gear shifters(available on 2.0 and not 1.6). No choice already, my current car already in hospital and left up to May 2017.

 

Pretty good value among the rest, IMO after some comparisons and considerations for the following makes:

1) Mitsubishi Lancer/Attriage - Last gen ago overalls, Jap alike interiors

1.1) Exterior: 2.5/5

1.2) Interior: 2/5

1.3) Engine: -IDK- (never test drove)

1.4) Drive: -IDK-

 

2) Toyota Altis - Balanced 1/2 gen ago overalls, Jap alike interiors

2.1) Exterior: 4/5 (Conservatively modern look, have wow factor comparing to its previous model)

2.2) Interior: 3/5 (Typical Toyota style with some gadgetry upgrades, dashboard a little too high, have the "hindering" field of view, esp when objects are closer feeling, maybe I'm just not used to higher dashboards)

2.3) Engine: 3/5 (Very balanced gear ratio)

2.4) Drive: 3/5 (Comfy very typical Jap car driving feel. May not be too comfortable for long distance driving)

 

3) Mazda 3 - Best looking exterior award with Euro alike interiors, worrying engine response [to get out of dangerous or nasty situations, reacts after 0.5 - 1s after squeezing the paddle] and able to feel the roll when engaging a sharper turn in faster speeds)

3.1) Exterior: 5/5 (Wow... and Wow! They've definitely done something right in this department)

3.2) Interior: 3.5/5 (Better than Altis good touch on the additional display at the driver seat, innovative)

3.3) Engine: 2/5 (Under powered and slow response)

3.4) Drive: 2/5 (Felt unsafe when it comes to sharper turns with speed and the need for emergency power to get out of situations, cross between Jap and Euro car driving feel)

 

4) Kia K3 - Balanced 1/2 gen ago overalls, Euro alike interiors (Best tech among these, but, lower end than Impreza)

4.1) Exterior: 3.5/5 (Front design have mixed reviews among my friends, either u like or don't like. Loved the back, esp the not blinding break lights)

4.2) Interior: 3.5/5 (The best among all, ventilated seats (only KIA has for this range), more gadgets among these)

4.3) Engine: 3/5 (More balanced similar to the Altis but, feels that Altis is just slightly more powerful)

4.4) Drive: 3/5 (Comfy very typical Jap and a little Euro car driving feel. May be more comfortable for long distance driving compared to Altis)

 

5) Chev Cruze

5.1) Exterior: 3.5/5 (Nice overall masculine look)

5.2) Interior: 2.5/5 (A little more plastic feel, feels a little last gen too)

5.3) Engine: -IDK-

5.4) Drive: -IDK-

 

6) WV Jetta

6.1) Exterior: 3/5 (Just a little modernization from its previous model, still nice, but no Wow factor)

6.2) Interior: 2.5/5 (Feels last gen ago, but, knowing WV already a very good jump)

6.3) Engine: 3.5/5 (Powerful turbo engine, worring gearbox and mechanics issue, bursts holes in your pocket the size of f**king Jupiter)

6.4) Drive: 4/5 (Amazing, solid feel entering and exiting tighter turns. Fast response upon pedal squeeze, feels like manual car response, just a slight bit slower. I'm driving a manual car now)

 

7) Honda Civic

7.1) Exterior: 4.5/5 (Very good looking, especially the break lights, out of conventional, done it right too)

7.2) Interior: 2.5/5 (Current gen gadgets with left side blind spot detector)

7.3) Engine: -IDK-

7.4) Drive: -IDK-

 

8) Subaru Impreza Feb 2017

8.1) Exterior: 4/5 (Big design restyle since it's last version, IMO better looking than Altis and KIA)

8.2) Interior: 5/5 (Better than current gen gadgets with both side side blind spot detector, double screen infotainment system, tyre pressure gauge)

8.3) Engine: 4/5 (IMO, good balance between power and comfort when you need it. Of course, not as powerful as Jetta.

8.4) Drive: 4.5/5 (Jap car but, drive feels like Euro car. SImilar to Jetta feel)

IMO, I'm a light footer so, the current Feb 2017 Impreza with more focused gear ratio towards the low and highs is a lil too powerful for me.

 

Was offered $97,800 and comes with the following:

1. Warranty

1.1 Mechanical parts, 5 years, Example, gear box and engine

1.2 Electrical parts, 2 years, Example, infotainment systems, etc.

1.3 General T&C applies, Example, excludes wear and tear

 

2. Accessories

2.1 Solar films, and also darker at the back side of the car

 

2.2 Mats (which I courteously declined, easily get a set from Malaysia cheaply. And I do Synthetic Grasses, I'll customer cut and put synthetic grass as car mats for my cars. Really nice and refreshing to see some greens in the car. Even though, it's actually fake. Haha..)

 

2.3 Front Cam (which I courteously declined as well. Value of approx. SGD 200 ++, could easily be done outside and not too complex to do. Anyway, previously bought a car mirror set equipped with front cam behind the mirror and back cam from China and yet to use.)

 

2.4 Swapped 2.2 & 2.3 for the following as I feel, it's safer to be done as Subaru in case 3rd party workshops did a bad job:

2.4.1 Auto car lock + beeps when you lock and unlock your car worth $300 ++ (Please be more discrete about this as this is a bro, bro arrangement with him and I'm not supposed to say out that openly.)

 

2.5 Additional item bought with the "Duo Points" after purchasing the car

2.5.1 Collapsible side mirrors as you turn of the car and start the car.

 

3. Need to get from Subaru to enjoy above price

3.1 Loan @ 70%, 7 years

3.2 Insurance (NCD + 5% rebates provided)

3.3 Non-guaranteed COE Bidding, 8 times.

 

4 Delivery/Lead-time

4.1 Only arrive Singapore around Mid March 2017 and possible to get your hands on the wheels by end March/early April due to clearances.

4.2 If COE bidding bo dio, than have to wait longer.

 

The audio system Subaru is better than the rest too.

However, I'm quite particular(can say I'm an audiophile) about music as it helps me to distress.

Hopefully, able to get my active subwoofer to work in this car. Will test out Ah Meng found in this forum and revert if there's any thing.

 

Hope the above helps!

 

P.S. After writing, I think I can be a car reviewer leh! HAHA!

Hi bro

U get a very price

[Bird5011]

Thanks bro, hopefully this ride no problems can already. 

 

Just worried about this new Global Platform thing.

1st of its line. Not sure about its reliability yet.

 

Will share about the FC after I drove this car for a period when possible.

Based on what I remember, I think the FC I saw was 13km+ when I test drove.

I did squeeze the paddle a bit though. Think it went to 12km+ after that.

Bro...don't worry too much. Subaru is a Subaru...don't care what' others comments. You will feel the differences with AWD when driving in the wet..

[999]

Thanks bro, hopefully this ride no problems can already. 

 

Just worried about this new Global Platform thing.

1st of its line. Not sure about its reliability yet.

 

Will share about the FC after I drove this car for a period when possible.

Based on what I remember, I think the FC I saw was 13km+ when I test drove.

I did squeeze the paddle a bit though. Think it went to 12km+ after that.

Think about it this way. 2 Wheel drive is 12Km/L, so 4WD/AWD is double so FC should be double, meaning only 6Km/L. If u get anthing better than 6KM/L u got a bargain. bash me if u like!

[jg2000]

Thanks bro, hopefully this ride no problems can already. 

 

Just worried about this new Global Platform thing.

1st of its line. Not sure about its reliability yet.

 

Will share about the FC after I drove this car for a period when possible.

Based on what I remember, I think the FC I saw was 13km+ when I test drove.

I did squeeze the paddle a bit though. Think it went to 12km+ after that.

 

Platform is mainly a welded chunk of metal with no moving parts - unlikely to have any major problem.

1.6L engine seems almost no change from last generation - so again, likely not much to worry about.

 

FC for CVT is always very poor for drivers new to CVT.

Depending on how fast you learn/adapt to it, you will find it will improve quite significantly over time.

Nowadays for highway driving, can easily reach 7liter/100km or 14.3 km/l and sometimes down to 6.5liter/100km or 15.4km/liter in my XV.  Others have done even better at 5+liter/100km.

 

Also, Subaru boxer engines need a bit of driving and a few servicing to lossen up.  

So FC continues to improve even after 20K.

Edited February 16, 2017 by jg2000

[999]

Bro...don't worry too much. Subaru is a Subaru...don't care what' others comments. You will feel the differences with AWD when driving in the wet..

One reason or excuse I gave myself/CO is that safety during wet driving.  

[jg2000]

One reason or excuse I gave myself/CO is that safety during wet driving.  

 

You don't need wet driving to enjoy the AWD.

Even on dry roads and esp. when you do twisty roads, you can feel the difference.

 

That's why Audi Quattro (i.e. AWD) got its fame because of the difference in driving dynamics due to the AWD.

[Kah178]

Hi bro

U get a very price ð

wow, drop from $101.8k to $97.8k within 1 month.

[999]

wow, drop from $101.8k to $97.8k within 1 month.

With trade in

[Kah178]

How much you are paying for the AIG insurance? Mine is $1.5k after 50% NCD

Edited February 16, 2017 by Kah178

[999]

How much you are paying for the AIG insurance? Mine is $1.5k after 50% NCD

AIG is always high.. Don't think too much. After 1st year change it.

Currently paying less than $700 for a Honda, but 1k plus for Subaru.

[wdldalian]

You don't need wet driving to enjoy the AWD.

Even on dry roads and esp. when you do twisty roads, you can feel the difference.

 

That's why Audi Quattro (i.e. AWD) got its fame because of the difference in driving dynamics due to the AWD.

 

I heard that the servicing and maintenance cost for Subaru is generally high. The parts are more expensive than other Jap brands. Is it true? Any existing Subaru bros to share?

[Jp66]

Tested Android Auto with the car. Confirm plus chop, it works!

AA does not appear in normal condition till u connect and activate AA on ur phone.

Can view whatsapp omsg, phone calls history and map.

glad to hear it works.

 

I have also installed AA, but can't install arm64 even though my phone is 64 bits, so have to settle it with arm.

[Jp66]

You can register as Duo memeber the same day. Check with yr SE, they are there to serve us.

my SE said the account will only be activated after the car is regiestered.