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4th Gear (edited)
17 minutes ago, Vinyl said:

Arms makers love wars, love instability.

If so.. we must not forget this great nation..

China’s Arms Industry Giants https://chinapower.csis.org/arms-companies/ Possessing a highly developed defense industrial base is a prerequisite to becoming a leading military power. While China is already the world’s second largest arms producer, the ability of its arms industry to domestically develop certain advanced weapon systems is still growing. 

From 2010 to 2020, China exported nearly 16.6 billion TIV worth of conventional weapons across the globe. The lion’s share – around 77.3 percent – went to Asia. An additional 19.1 percent flowed into Africa, and the remaining 3.6 percent went to other parts of the world. https://chinapower.csis.org/china-global-arms-trade/

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Supersonic
1 hour ago, Victor68 said:

Very debatable but once you have to defend against aggression, the reasoning is strong than you going out to bomb and say you meant good to kill. It is pointless to assume but just look back at what have happen in Vietnam,  Syria,  Iraq, among the few. All these need mo further explanation 

DPRK defeated ROK till Busan at 1 point of Korean War.

Even Seoul was under DPRK

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4th Gear
42 minutes ago, Odyssey2011 said:

If so.. we must not forget this great nation..

China’s Arms Industry Giants https://chinapower.csis.org/arms-companies/ Possessing a highly developed defense industrial base is a prerequisite to becoming a leading military power. While China is already the world’s second largest arms producer, the ability of its arms industry to domestically develop certain advanced weapon systems is still growing. 

From 2010 to 2020, China exported nearly 16.6 billion TIV worth of conventional weapons across the globe. The lion’s share – around 77.3 percent – went to Asia. An additional 19.1 percent flowed into Africa, and the remaining 3.6 percent went to other parts of the world. https://chinapower.csis.org/china-global-arms-trade/

Lai, tell me which are the countries on this list currently at war.

Which country spent $6.4 trillion fighting wars since 2001?

Who is the best supporter of the arms industry?

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1 hour ago, Beregond said:

given usa track record with their navy and troops all over the world. i would choose china influence and leadership in scs over usa any time hands down

OK for them to sail around but their bombing and interference on how people should lead their lives are very concerning. Always moving the goal post whenever the game disadvantage them. 

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29 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

DPRK defeated ROK till Busan at 1 point of Korean War.

Even Seoul was under DPRK

Thank you for sharing. I sincerely hope Korea will be like vietnam someday and not India/ Pakistan/Bangladesh/siri Lanka 

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On 6/15/2021 at 10:56 PM, Jellandross said:

Real spies have faces that you don't bother to look twice

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And they don't go around announcing their real names to everyone they meet 

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One is Bond, James Bond

One is Bonk, Bonker...to spy...😁

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4th Gear
17 minutes ago, Vinyl said:

Lai, tell me which are the countries on this list currently at war.

Which country spent $6.4 trillion fighting wars since 2001?

Who is the best supporter of the arms industry?

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If so…Then which side is more powerful … consistently dominating…..Just hope you don’t have to choose one side someday. 🙂

 

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On 6/18/2021 at 12:00 AM, Macrosszero said:

Knowledge is everything.

On D-Day, the general in charge of defence, Erwin Rommel was away in Germany to celebrate his wife's birthday.

Hitler was asleep, so his Panzer divisions couldn't be moved to respond to the unexpected landing zone.

One can not be so naive to think that it is all about stats about weapon systems or military ability.

Even mundane things like strategic stockpiles of rice, water and sand would be significant when it comes to a negotiation.

Exactly...we were even taught in bmt to cover our dung after we crap...otherwise, enemy would know our diet...Maggie instant noodles, Lay's potatoe chips, Thumb up kacang...😷😁

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15 minutes ago, Victor68 said:

Thank you for sharing. I sincerely hope Korea will be like vietnam someday and not India/ Pakistan/Bangladesh/siri Lanka 

korea now very hard already .

i suspect taliban might become something like the next vietnam gov. esp now they defeated the usa allies troops in afghanistan.

they control alot of the land there, very high chance they will unite afghanistan and become the recognize gov.

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4 minutes ago, Odyssey2011 said:

If so…Then which side is more powerful … consistently dominating…..Just hope you don’t have to choose one side someday. 🙂

 

Choose one side? Choose Singapore and choose survival la.

China is our biggest trade partner and US been asking ASEAN to pick a side, we all said no. We are talking about ASEAN countries with territorial disputes with China in the South China Sea. They all chose to not take side.

You want to choose US and end up like Australia? Crying their way to WTO? Farmers and wineyard suffering? Ya, Australia have backbone, they spoke up. Well done, more Chinese students will be coming to Singapore post-COVID, we can all thank Australia for that.

 

Worst case scenario of a war between China and US, do you want to pick a side when the topic would be on the survival of humanity?

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25 minutes ago, Odyssey2011 said:

If so…Then which side is more powerful … consistently dominating…..Just hope you don’t have to choose one side someday. 🙂

 

u are right on this.

the worst thing that can happen to us. is we have to choose side 1 day. 

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45 minutes ago, Odyssey2011 said:

If so…Then which side is more powerful … consistently dominating…..Just hope you don’t have to choose one side someday. 🙂

 

hmm this means you have chosen a side? the dominating side? 

I'll tell you our reason for not wanting to chose sides. many sg thought leaders and the gahmens position and asean countries already express that they dont want to chose sides. rationale already given. some bros also prefer not to. we want a multi lateral world, not a unilateral world led by an exclusive club of ex-colonialists.

whats your reason?

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1 hour ago, Beregond said:

u are right on this.

the worst thing that can happen to us. is we have to choose side 1 day. 

When need to choose, the side that want to control us and trigger war will be out. We don't want any war in Asia. Once the playground is in Indonesia China, vietnam. Most time the playground is in middle east. It is about time they shift home to the west to test out their weapons. 

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5 minutes ago, Victor68 said:

When need to choose, the side that want to control us and trigger war will be out. We don't want any war in Asia. Once the playground is in Indonesia China, vietnam. Most time the playground is in middle east. It is about time they shift home to the west to test out their weapons. 

thats right. war here makes us suffer. ask them go fight on usa soil

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4th Gear (edited)
3 hours ago, Vinyl said:

Choose one side? Choose Singapore and choose survival la.

China is our biggest trade partner and US been asking ASEAN to pick a side, we all said no. We are talking about ASEAN countries with territorial disputes with China in the South China Sea. They all chose to not take side.

You want to choose US and end up like Australia? Crying their way to WTO? Farmers and wineyard suffering? Ya, Australia have backbone, they spoke up. Well done, more Chinese students will be coming to Singapore post-COVID, we can all thank Australia for that.

 

Worst case scenario of a war between China and US, do you want to pick a side when the topic would be on the survival of humanity?

Great….You will never need to choose side. And will stay like now forever….😁

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4th Gear
1 hour ago, Nolicense said:

thats right. war here makes us suffer. ask them go fight on usa soil

On USA soil? Seriously… the chance of this happening…Errr 🙂

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5 minutes ago, Odyssey2011 said:

On USA soil? Seriously… the chance of this happening…Errr 🙂

their civil war may have ended but their people still divided. never say never. there is discussion that the us can fracture. looking at the currency, it looks to be a catalyst. 

empires rise and fall. even the uk might split up.

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Not sure about this ….Meaning of 敬酒不吃吃罚酒 ‘To refuse a toast only to be forced to drink a forfeit; fig. to hesitate to do sth until forced to do even more”  https://www.purpleculture.net/dictionary-details/?word=敬酒不吃吃罚酒…. Interesting 

my chinese teacher taugh me  “居安思危…….” too

 

 

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