Singapore Property Scene Discussion

[Windwaver]

I must start selling double bunk beds now 

[Dafansu]

On 12/29/2023 at 10:06 PM, Wt_know said:

missed out this news from holiday

just check YT videos and sexpert say property huat ah!

last time the rental yield is based on 6pax, now can based on 8pax liao 

renter if cannot find a partner to share ... then have to pay more

but not many landlords want so many pax also. More issues for them, unless maybe landed properties. 

[Wt_know]

On 12/30/2023 at 9:26 AM, Dafansu said:

but not many landlords want so many pax also. More issues for them, unless maybe landed properties. 

old rule, 1 room = 1 pax = $1000

now 1 room = 2 pax = $1400 

renter = 30% cheaper per pax

landlord = 40% higher return 

huat ah!

[13177]

On 12/30/2023 at 9:42 AM, Wt_know said:

old rule, 1 room = 1 pax = $1000

now 1 room = 2 pax = $1400 

renter = 30% cheaper per pax

landlord = 40% higher return 

huat ah!

Rental no matter what, landlord will be the one profit and benefit. Tenant would never benefit much.

[Stary]

On 12/30/2023 at 9:26 AM, Dafansu said:

but not many landlords want so many pax also. More issues for them, unless maybe landed properties. 

This is true.  

If it is me , I will not want to increase my number of tenants.  I feel it is also important to consider the neighbors who are living there. Having more people in the house would means more noise and probably more disturbance to the neighbors.  

Secondly, more people also means more  wear and tear to the house.  While I may collect more $$$, I may have to end up spending  that extra $ to do repair, replacement   and maintenance work.  

Edited December 30, 2023 by Starry

[Dafansu]

On 12/30/2023 at 1:34 PM, Starry said:

This is true.  

If it is me , I will not want to increase my number of tenants.  I feel it is also important to consider the neighbors who are living there. Having more people in the house would means more noise and probably more disturbance to the neighbors.  

Secondly, more people also means more  wear and tear to the house.  While I may collect more $$$, I may have to end up spending  that extra $ to do repair, replacement   and maintenance work.  

yap for those 6 to 8 tenants if max out likely will be co-workers rather than Family, they won't really take care of the house. Be prepared for a shock when getting back the keys at end of lease.

[Mkl22]

If this story is true. Seems like lose money anyway you cut it. 

https://stackedhomes.com/editorial/im-single-and-own-a-1-bedder-investment-condo-in-river-valley-is-it-better-to-sell-to-bigger-property-further-away-or-a-resale-hdb/#gs.2au4ns

[Windwaver]

Some chio bu post in FB 

Edited December 31, 2023 by Windwaver

[Windwaver]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/housing/some-tengah-residents-upset-centralised-cooling-system-not-yet-installed-after-getting-keys-to-units

Some Tengah residents upset centralised cooling system not yet installed after getting keys to units

SINGAPORE – Tengah resident Julie Tan had to delay renovating her new flat for more than half a month, as the centralised cooling system was not yet installed when she collected the keys to her five-room unit in November.

Ms Tan, 49, said she was shocked when SP Group, which manages the cooling system in Tengah town, told her that it was unable to complete the installation of the system in time.

She had approached the utilities firm at their customer service centre at HDB Hub in Toa Payoh on Nov 27, after collecting her keys that day, as she was wondering why she was not yet asked to pay for the installation.

“They said the installation would take another two to four weeks. We were hoping to move in before Chinese New Year, but it has to be delayed as we can start renovation only after it is installed,” the accounts executive told The Straits Times on Dec 13.

ST knows of at least seven Tengah households in one block in the Plantation Acres project that are affected.

In response to queries, SP and the Housing Board confirmed that the installation was incomplete for “a handful” of units, without specifying how many units or blocks were affected.

An SP spokesman said that HDB had an accelerated construction schedule to hand over units to residents following delays due to Covid-19. As a result, the company’s installation partner, Daikin, was unable to complete the installation of the fan coil units (FCUs) before the key collection date.

Plantation Acres, launched in May 2019, was initially slated for completion in the second half of 2022.

Asked why keys were given out before the installation was complete, an HDB spokeswoman said that although SP needed more time, HDB prioritised handing over keys to home owners by the committed completion date to allow them to move in as soon as possible. Therefore, it was unable to accommodate SP’s schedule, she added.

SP said an additional four weeks are needed for installation after key collection, for Daikin to install the units and work with SP to carry out testing and commissioning works to ensure the system performs according to operating standards. Usage charges will be waived during this time.

The SP spokesman added that affected customers were informed before their key collection.

“We understand this may impact customers’ plans and are working with Daikin to have the FCUs installed for these customers as soon as possible,” he said.

Although the installation of the cooling system in Ms Tan’s home was completed last week – about three weeks after she collected her keys – she has yet to receive the remote controls for them, she told ST on Dec 29.

Ms Tan said she was initially worried about the delay as she has to vacate her current home by March 8, having sold her flat earlier in December with a three months’ extension of stay. But she added that she is less anxious as renovation began last week.

“We should be able to move in after Chinese New Year. I just hope that the cooling system works well, because for now, we can only turn it on manually,” she said.

Another resident who wanted to be known only as Mr Chiam, 34, said he was surprised when he received an e-mail from SP informing him about the installation delay only after he had collected the keys to his five-room flat on Nov 28.

“I was already at SP’s Tengah experience centre at HDB Hub, trying to make payment for my centralised cooling system’s units,” he added.

Mr Chiam, who works in the public sector, said he decided to cancel his contract, and SP sent him an invoice for a cancellation fee of about $800.

“Despite the controversy about quality, I was still willing to go ahead with the system. Since SP isn’t able to meet the handover deadline, why should we take the risk to wait?

“It’s disappointing that I’m still being charged the cancellation fee when it’s not my fault it wasn’t installed.”

Mr Chiam said he has e-mailed SP to ask if the fee can be waived, but has not received a reply.

Tengah, an eco-friendly and car-lite “forest” town, is the first HDB estate to provide a centralised cooling system as an option for home owners.

The system uses chilled water to remove heat, unlike conventional air-conditioning units that are connected to outdoor compressors and use refrigerants to cool down flats. Centralised chillers on the blocks’ rooftops produce chilled water that is piped directly into homes.

ST reported in October that the cooling system had run into teething problems after the first batch of residents collected their keys at the end of August, with some saying the system in their units was not cold enough.

In November, a petition signed by more than 150 Tengah residents highlighted that the chilled water usage rate of 20.38 cents per kilowatt-hour refrigeration (kWrh) for the period of October to December was higher than expected and requested that it be lowered. SP subsequently waived charges until Dec 31 and adjusted the rate to 13.2 cents per kWrh from Jan 1. The rate will be reviewed and adjusted quarterly.

According to an archived webpage on Nov 15 of the myTengah website, run by SP, eight in 10 – or more than 10,600 – residents of Tengah have opted for the system. A check on Dec 29 showed that this number has been removed. SP did not provide cancellation numbers when asked by ST.

Residents had also complained about the inaccessibility of public transport in the new town, and an additional bus service to Jurong Town Hall Bus Interchange was added in November. There are now three bus services serving Tengah.

The keys for 2,093 units – about 56 per cent of the 3,753 units in the first three Build-To-Order projects in Tengah – were collected by Dec 17, HDB said. They are Plantation Acres, Plantation Grange and Plantation Village.

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by Windwaver

[ccc888]

On 12/31/2023 at 4:37 PM, Windwaver said:

Some chio bu post in FB 

Haolian post sia….humblebrag own a GCB whahaha

[Wt_know]

no Black & White no talk ... LOL 

[Dafansu]

On 12/31/2023 at 4:47 PM, ccc888 said:

Haolian post sia….humblebrag own a GCB whahaha

market rental of 65k per month, very few in such class, should tax more for the benefits of those lower income. 

[therock]

On 12/31/2023 at 4:46 PM, Windwaver said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/housing/some-tengah-residents-upset-centralised-cooling-system-not-yet-installed-after-getting-keys-to-units

Some Tengah residents upset centralised cooling system not yet installed after getting keys to units

SINGAPORE – Tengah resident Julie Tan had to delay renovating her new flat for more than half a month, as the centralised cooling system was not yet installed when she collected the keys to her five-room unit in November.

Ms Tan, 49, said she was shocked when SP Group, which manages the cooling system in Tengah town, told her that it was unable to complete the installation of the system in time.

She had approached the utilities firm at their customer service centre at HDB Hub in Toa Payoh on Nov 27, after collecting her keys that day, as she was wondering why she was not yet asked to pay for the installation.

“They said the installation would take another two to four weeks. We were hoping to move in before Chinese New Year, but it has to be delayed as we can start renovation only after it is installed,” the accounts executive told The Straits Times on Dec 13.

ST knows of at least seven Tengah households in one block in the Plantation Acres project that are affected.

In response to queries, SP and the Housing Board confirmed that the installation was incomplete for “a handful” of units, without specifying how many units or blocks were affected.

An SP spokesman said that HDB had an accelerated construction schedule to hand over units to residents following delays due to Covid-19. As a result, the company’s installation partner, Daikin, was unable to complete the installation of the fan coil units (FCUs) before the key collection date.

Plantation Acres, launched in May 2019, was initially slated for completion in the second half of 2022.

Asked why keys were given out before the installation was complete, an HDB spokeswoman said that although SP needed more time, HDB prioritised handing over keys to home owners by the committed completion date to allow them to move in as soon as possible. Therefore, it was unable to accommodate SP’s schedule, she added.

SP said an additional four weeks are needed for installation after key collection, for Daikin to install the units and work with SP to carry out testing and commissioning works to ensure the system performs according to operating standards. Usage charges will be waived during this time.

The SP spokesman added that affected customers were informed before their key collection.

“We understand this may impact customers’ plans and are working with Daikin to have the FCUs installed for these customers as soon as possible,” he said.

Although the installation of the cooling system in Ms Tan’s home was completed last week – about three weeks after she collected her keys – she has yet to receive the remote controls for them, she told ST on Dec 29.

Ms Tan said she was initially worried about the delay as she has to vacate her current home by March 8, having sold her flat earlier in December with a three months’ extension of stay. But she added that she is less anxious as renovation began last week.

“We should be able to move in after Chinese New Year. I just hope that the cooling system works well, because for now, we can only turn it on manually,” she said.

Another resident who wanted to be known only as Mr Chiam, 34, said he was surprised when he received an e-mail from SP informing him about the installation delay only after he had collected the keys to his five-room flat on Nov 28.

“I was already at SP’s Tengah experience centre at HDB Hub, trying to make payment for my centralised cooling system’s units,” he added.

Mr Chiam, who works in the public sector, said he decided to cancel his contract, and SP sent him an invoice for a cancellation fee of about $800.

“Despite the controversy about quality, I was still willing to go ahead with the system. Since SP isn’t able to meet the handover deadline, why should we take the risk to wait?

“It’s disappointing that I’m still being charged the cancellation fee when it’s not my fault it wasn’t installed.”

Mr Chiam said he has e-mailed SP to ask if the fee can be waived, but has not received a reply.

Tengah, an eco-friendly and car-lite “forest” town, is the first HDB estate to provide a centralised cooling system as an option for home owners.

The system uses chilled water to remove heat, unlike conventional air-conditioning units that are connected to outdoor compressors and use refrigerants to cool down flats. Centralised chillers on the blocks’ rooftops produce chilled water that is piped directly into homes.

ST reported in October that the cooling system had run into teething problems after the first batch of residents collected their keys at the end of August, with some saying the system in their units was not cold enough.

In November, a petition signed by more than 150 Tengah residents highlighted that the chilled water usage rate of 20.38 cents per kilowatt-hour refrigeration (kWrh) for the period of October to December was higher than expected and requested that it be lowered. SP subsequently waived charges until Dec 31 and adjusted the rate to 13.2 cents per kWrh from Jan 1. The rate will be reviewed and adjusted quarterly.

According to an archived webpage on Nov 15 of the myTengah website, run by SP, eight in 10 – or more than 10,600 – residents of Tengah have opted for the system. A check on Dec 29 showed that this number has been removed. SP did not provide cancellation numbers when asked by ST.

Residents had also complained about the inaccessibility of public transport in the new town, and an additional bus service to Jurong Town Hall Bus Interchange was added in November. There are now three bus services serving Tengah.

The keys for 2,093 units – about 56 per cent of the 3,753 units in the first three Build-To-Order projects in Tengah – were collected by Dec 17, HDB said. They are Plantation Acres, Plantation Grange and Plantation Village.

 

I wonder if it would’ve better if HDB took longer but had everything ready.. 

 

[Wt_know]

CCK hong kan liao

or is it people mistaken it as LCK

muahahaha

 

[Windwaver]

https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/super-sour-guy-woodlands-resident-gets-blasted-alerting-authorities-over-neighbours-cosy

'Super sour guy': Woodlands resident gets blasted for alerting authorities over neighbour's cosy corner outside flat

Is this an eyesore, or simply sour grapes from a neighbour?

One Woodlands resident allegedly alerted the authorities after finding out that his neighbour set up a cosy corner outside the flat.

Taking to Facebook on Saturday (Jan 13), the man shared a photo which showed a bench, an armchair and potted plants right outside his neighbour's doorstep.

"Block 735 Woodlands Circle. Reported. It's such an eyesore," he said. "Did they pay extra?

"No special privileges ya?"

In the comments, several netizens felt that the complainant was over-reacting. 

"If it is not obstructing any firemen's access or causing disturbance to his neighbour, it's fine," one of them said, while another observed that the cosy corner looks neat and clean.

"I don't mind being their neighbour," she added.

Other netizens felt that the Woodlands resident who complained about his neighbour's cosy corner had "nothing better to do".

"Super sour guy. Can't see others happy or having something he probably can't have," one netizen said.

"I don't see any issue with it in the first place," another added.

The Facebook post has since been deleted. 

According to the Singapore Civil Defence Force, the common corridor in residential estates must have a clear escape passage at least 1.2metres wide for use during a fire or medical emergency.

While potted plants, shoe racks and foldable clothing racks may be placed there, the 1.2m clearance must be maintained.

No placement or storage of objects at staircases and its immediate landing is allowed so that escape routes are not obstructed, SCDF said.

[Spidey10]

On 12/31/2023 at 4:37 PM, Windwaver said:

Some chio bu post in FB 

so rich....bugger! 

Tax itself is the cost of a HDB....

[13177]

On 1/15/2024 at 3:42 PM, Windwaver said:

https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/super-sour-guy-woodlands-resident-gets-blasted-alerting-authorities-over-neighbours-cosy

'Super sour guy': Woodlands resident gets blasted for alerting authorities over neighbour's cosy corner outside flat

Is this an eyesore, or simply sour grapes from a neighbour?

One Woodlands resident allegedly alerted the authorities after finding out that his neighbour set up a cosy corner outside the flat.

Taking to Facebook on Saturday (Jan 13), the man shared a photo which showed a bench, an armchair and potted plants right outside his neighbour's doorstep.

"Block 735 Woodlands Circle. Reported. It's such an eyesore," he said. "Did they pay extra?

"No special privileges ya?"

In the comments, several netizens felt that the complainant was over-reacting. 

"If it is not obstructing any firemen's access or causing disturbance to his neighbour, it's fine," one of them said, while another observed that the cosy corner looks neat and clean.

"I don't mind being their neighbour," she added.

Other netizens felt that the Woodlands resident who complained about his neighbour's cosy corner had "nothing better to do".

"Super sour guy. Can't see others happy or having something he probably can't have," one netizen said.

"I don't see any issue with it in the first place," another added.

The Facebook post has since been deleted. 

According to the Singapore Civil Defence Force, the common corridor in residential estates must have a clear escape passage at least 1.2metres wide for use during a fire or medical emergency.

While potted plants, shoe racks and foldable clothing racks may be placed there, the 1.2m clearance must be maintained.

No placement or storage of objects at staircases and its immediate landing is allowed so that escape routes are not obstructed, SCDF said.

Nowadays it is common to see people setting up a cosy corner outside their flat, esp when their unit is at the far end corner of the corridor which comes with an empty space infront of their main door without sharing with other units. I do not find any big problem if the owner does not inconvenience other people from walking or created fire hazardous.

[Wt_know]

in the good old day ... 9/10 msia property ...

landed house even the cheapo one has this either within or outside their house ...

very cosy ... no problemo ... lol

Edited January 15, 2024 by Wt_know