Boeing 737-800 "diving experience" emerging.

[Stary]

Should thoroughly  investigate all these diving causes .... 

 

 

 

[Lethalstrike]

2 hours ago, sgcarmartfan said:

There is an interesting documentary about Boeing (and their 737 MAX in particular) on Netflix named Downfall: The Case Against Boeing. Very compelling.

While it's the 737NG in this Malaysia Airlines incident, but lots of issues going on in the Boeing factory/assembly plants over the past years

Saw this documentary before.

Apparently, it was the long-standing culture of safety and engineering first at Boeing which has been sacrificed for faster time to market to beat Airbus, enhanced profitability by cutting corners and they even told airline companies initially that they don't even need to send their pilots for simulator training with 737 MAX. With manufacturer saying no need for simulator training, it means less costs to the airlines and thus they bought the 737 MAX. Thus, when the sensors went haywire, leading the aircraft to automatically nose dive by programming (the aircraft will do this to prevent stalling when nose is pointed up), the poor pilots who died don't even know the 737 was programmed this way as they didn't know about the feature.  

Whistle blowers and many long time employees within Boeing were simply asked to shut up and leave whenever concerns are raised. The change of culture happened due to a change of management (Boeing merger with McDonnell Douglas). 

Boeing totally deserved what's coming, but can't say the same to those unfortunate who perished. 

[Sturtles]

8 hours ago, BabyBlade said:

OH shit. My hair stand just reading the article and the graph.

Boeing is screwed. Or maybe there's something wrong with the earth's core and soon we'll have birds and planes falling. Just watched The Core on Netflix. 😅

 

 

The article mentioned altitude dropped from 31,000 ft to 24,000 ft... (which does not match the chart)

From the chart, there is a dip of ard 3,000 ft from 24,800 to 21,000 at ard 7:05am..

Thereafter, the pilot recovered and ascended to 31,000 ft, but subsequently descended to 12,400 ft for return to airport...

Possibly due to air turbulence than aircraft fault.

Perhaps pilots here could contribute...

 

 

[Kb27]

8 hours ago, Atonchia said:

Auto pilot went cranky?

Or Pilot switched off auto pilot😅

pilot let go the accelerator pedal. 

[Jamesc]

Where does MAS 737-800 fly to?

I want to revenge travel my MIL now.

Revenge travel is all the rage now.

[Didu]

Aircraft drop during flight thru turbulence is quite common. Those who do bungee jumps will tell you such weightless feeling is normal. In fact the airline do not charge their passengers extra for the add-on experience.    You got go Sentosa to check out how much it cost per jump boh?

[Maxus-MIFA9]

Look like more of maintenance issue ... 

Cut corners to save time & money ....  

[Yeshe]

14 hours ago, Kb27 said:

pilot let go the accelerator pedal. 

Fuel cost is high, have to improve FC??

[DOBIEMKZ]

14 hours ago, Kb27 said:

pilot let go the accelerator pedal. 

Might be co-pilot did funny things to the main pilot...🙄😏😒

[Atonchia]

 

[Jamesc]

This kind of flight must book one way first to save money.

If never get there at lease save money on the return trip.

I always book my MIL on one way trips.

[Ody_2004]

55 minutes ago, Jamesc said:

This kind of flight must book one way first to save money.

If never get there at lease save money on the return trip.

I always book my MIL on one way trips.

Errrrr then how come she always back to be with u? She bought her own return? 🤣🤣🤣 

like that more expensive leh.. be a good SIL lah.. book return on 737 Max or whichever series! U double the chance of not seeing her 🤣🤣🤣

[Jamesc]

Now I know this I will only book Beoing for my MIL.

No airy bus for her.

On 4/6/2022 at 5:19 PM, Lethalstrike said:

Saw this documentary before.

Apparently, it was the long-standing culture of safety and engineering first at Boeing which has been sacrificed for faster time to market to beat Airbus, enhanced profitability by cutting corners and they even told airline companies initially that they don't even need to send their pilots for simulator training with 737 MAX. With manufacturer saying no need for simulator training, it means less costs to the airlines and thus they bought the 737 MAX. Thus, when the sensors went haywire, leading the aircraft to automatically nose dive by programming (the aircraft will do this to prevent stalling when nose is pointed up), the poor pilots who died don't even know the 737 was programmed this way as they didn't know about the feature.  

Whistle blowers and many long time employees within Boeing were simply asked to shut up and leave whenever concerns are raised. The change of culture happened due to a change of management (Boeing merger with McDonnell Douglas). 

Boeing totally deserved what's coming, but can't say the same to those unfortunate who perished.