107fan 5th Gear June 27, 2025 Share June 27, 2025 On 6/27/2025 at 1:46 PM, Beregond said: Actually really depend on how hard u drive and how demanding are u on the noise level. Some so call 'green' or economic tyre . Its really lasting but the rubber is very very hard. Got very poor dry grip. Some cases the tyre can spin on mscp. (Dry) Some tyres are poorly make. The wear and tear is very uneven. Creating waves. The sound is like bearing damage when u drive. But in general u are right. The quality of cheap or budget brand esp from China have evolved and improved alot compare to 10+ years ago. Previous tyre was Michelin XM2+ which was an energy tyre. It had really good grip. I didn't feel a lot of fuel savings tbh, but was a great all rounder. Makes me wonder how some eco tyres can even masquerade as performance because it really performed well. I guess the real difference is when you put it to real testing on track and go and actually measure braking distance etc. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic June 27, 2025 Share June 27, 2025 On 6/27/2025 at 1:52 PM, 107fan said: Previous tyre was Michelin XM2+ which was an energy tyre. It had really good grip. I didn't feel a lot of fuel savings tbh, but was a great all rounder. Makes me wonder how some eco tyres can even masquerade as performance because it really performed well. I guess the real difference is when you put it to real testing on track and go and actually measure braking distance etc. Because you are not Fast & Furious Driver,also maybe your Car not Powerful. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic June 27, 2025 Share June 27, 2025 On 6/27/2025 at 1:42 PM, 107fan said: Ok la fair, but then again during torrential rain most drivers would keep below 80kmh. At 60 70kmh there is no real opportunity for wet grip testing to speak of too... P/s don't Hog the Road..if it is Raining. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beehive3783 Twincharged June 27, 2025 Share June 27, 2025 On 6/27/2025 at 1:42 PM, 107fan said: Ok la fair, but then again during torrential rain most drivers would keep below 80kmh. At 60 70kmh there is no real opportunity for wet grip testing to speak of too... you don't need torrential rain. Just a wet road after rain, slight downslope and e-brake to see if your tyres are good or rubbish. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic June 27, 2025 Share June 27, 2025 On 6/27/2025 at 1:52 PM, 107fan said: Previous tyre was Michelin XM2+ which was an energy tyre. It had really good grip. I didn't feel a lot of fuel savings tbh, but was a great all rounder. Makes me wonder how some eco tyres can even masquerade as performance because it really performed well. I guess the real difference is when you put it to real testing on track and go and actually measure braking distance etc. I remember just a few months back when I got my new aysm 6. I hit 90+ on Aye first lane on a very wet day. Aye cck there first lane got some really deep puddles. Backside itchy. I almost regret it. Lucky both my hands on the wheel. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic June 27, 2025 Share June 27, 2025 On 6/27/2025 at 2:22 PM, Beregond said: I remember just a few months back when I got my new aysm 6. I hit 90+ on Aye first lane on a very wet day. Aye cck there first lane got some really deep puddles. Backside itchy. I almost regret it. Lucky both my hands on the wheel. So you nearly lost Control.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic June 27, 2025 Share June 27, 2025 (edited) On 6/27/2025 at 2:38 PM, ER-3682 said: So you nearly lost Control.? Ya. Can feel my car abit floating, aquaplaning. And going toward left abit. And the water sprash my windscreen. Lost sight for .5 sec. But i did make sure 2nd lane no car then i test. Anw. Its a lesson. Old dun be funny. Every now and then need to reflect and tell myself dun drive too fast. Edited June 27, 2025 by Beregond 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
107fan 5th Gear June 27, 2025 Share June 27, 2025 On 6/27/2025 at 2:12 PM, ER-3682 said: P/s don't Hog the Road..if it is Raining. I am rarely on lane 4 even when not raining haha 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic June 27, 2025 Share June 27, 2025 On 6/27/2025 at 3:36 PM, 107fan said: I am rarely on lane 4 even when not raining haha Not in Lane 4,means in Lane 1.?Comfirmed Road Hog. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benarsenal Turbocharged June 27, 2025 Share June 27, 2025 On 6/27/2025 at 1:28 PM, Beehive3783 said: But made in China leh. What is there to support. Do they hire Singaporeans there? Bo pian. Manufacturing in SG is dead. Nobody want to work in factory anymore. Blame PAP. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic June 27, 2025 Share June 27, 2025 On 6/27/2025 at 9:11 PM, Benarsenal said: Bo pian. Manufacturing in SG is dead. Nobody want to work in factory anymore. Blame PAP. Even employ FT,still need to pay High Levy,Electricity,Water & Industry Property also not Cheap,if Made in Singapore,the cost of the Tyre will be like Michelin Price. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic June 28, 2025 Share June 28, 2025 GITI is Singapore company. With a 5 year warranty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic June 28, 2025 Share June 28, 2025 On 6/26/2025 at 4:57 PM, Ody_2004 said: My neighbor use Black hawk for his BMW X1... he said when rain the brake cannot makan.. Just the type of tyre I am looking for MIL. Thanks 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
107fan 5th Gear June 28, 2025 Share June 28, 2025 On 6/27/2025 at 3:55 PM, ER-3682 said: Not in Lane 4,means in Lane 1.?Comfirmed Road Hog. No, I am on lane 3. Beside the most right overtakng lane lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beehive3783 Twincharged June 30, 2025 Share June 30, 2025 (edited) On 6/27/2025 at 9:11 PM, Benarsenal said: Bo pian. Manufacturing in SG is dead. Nobody want to work in factory anymore. Blame PAP. Yes, dead because of PAP. Many brands forced to move out of SG after PAP policy changes. So many. Back to the "nobody wants to work in factory anymore". Malaysians are willing to work because of the currency rate. Singaporeans can't work because the measly salary is hardly enough to feed a family. And because the factories know that Malaysians will still take the job, they continue to suppress the salary of low level workers. People say SG is first world country but I firmly believe SG is still third world. Which first world country still uses foreign workers for menial jobs and ferry them around in lorries? Companies are lazy to invest in modern technology because they are still reaping the benefits of cheap foreign labour. Eh crap, OT liao. Back to Kumweng brand tyres Edited June 30, 2025 by Beehive3783 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raychay 6th Gear June 30, 2025 Share June 30, 2025 Cannot find any good overseas reviews on Tourador & BlackHawk. Giti reviews are not bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic June 30, 2025 Share June 30, 2025 On 6/30/2025 at 10:35 AM, Raychay said: Cannot find any good overseas reviews on Tourador & BlackHawk. Giti reviews are not bad. My Brother's Vezel using Tourador over 1 Year,not bad actually..Heavy Rain,Bedok South Rd Corner,80 Km/h...can pass without Skidding. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic June 30, 2025 Share June 30, 2025 On 6/30/2025 at 10:35 AM, Raychay said: Cannot find any good overseas reviews on Tourador & BlackHawk. Giti reviews are not bad. I think giti got their own factory in china US , asean. Blackhawk and Tourador is make by some China oem factory. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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