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ST online: http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/singapore/story/mindef-buys-2-new-submarines-which-will-be-delivered-2020-20131202 Mindef buys 2 new submarines which will be delivered by 2020 Published on Dec 02, 2013 4:16 PM The RSS Challenger, Singapore's first submarine, on June 24, 2005. The Defence Ministry (Mindef) said in a statement on Monday, Dec 2, 2013, that it inked a deal with German defence contractor Thyssenkrupp Marine System on Nov 29 to buy two Type 218SG vessels to replace its ageing Challenger-class submarines. -- TNP FILE PHOTO: YVONNE LIM By Jermyn Chow <a target="_blank" href="http://adclick.g.doubleclick.net/aclk%253Fsa%253DL%2526ai%253DBCmIbJiOdUqv7LYjHigeX5oGACNaDrpwEAAAAEAEgADgAWMaMloFxYL8FggEXY2EtcHViLTU4NjU1OTY4NDgwMjQyMzGyARR3d3cuc3RyYWl0c3RpbWVzLmNvbboBCWdmcF9pbWFnZcgBCdoBfGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuc3RyYWl0c3RpbWVzLmNvbS9icmVha2luZy1uZXdzL3NpbmdhcG9yZS9zdG9yeS9taW5kZWYtYnV5cy0yLW5ldy1zdWJtYXJpbmVzLXdoaWNoLXdpbGwtYmUtZGVsaXZlcmVkLTIwMjAtMjAxMzEyMDKpAjMipLEet6o-wAIC4AIA6gIeNTkwOC9zdHJhaXRzdGltZXMvQk5fU2luZ2Fwb3Jl-AKB0h6QA7AJmAOwCagDAdAEkE7gBAGgBh8%2526num%253D0%2526sig%253DAOD64_3eKwZuJ26rpzRp_N5XKn-aS5xc8w%2526client%253Dca-pub-5865596848024231%2526adurl%253Dhttp://bs.serving-sys.com/BurstingPipe/adServer.bs?cn=tf&c=20&mc=click&pli=8597839&PluID=0&ord=1287576687"><img src="http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CICAgMCumPz4GxABGAEyCK6l2tdq_dZD" width="300" height="250" border="0" alt="" galleryimg="no"></a> Singapore will for the first time buy brand new submarines. The Defence Ministry (Mindef) said in a statement on Monday that it inked a deal with German defence contractor Thyssenkrupp Marine System on Nov 29 to buy two Type 218SG vessels. The contract includes a logistics package and the training of Singaporean crew in Germany. The new vessels, together with two second-hand Archer-class submarines, will replace four ageing Challenger-class submarines. Mindef said that the Challenger-class vessels, which were built in the 1960s, will be progressively retired from service. The new vessels are expected to be delivered from 2020. The decision to buy the new German-made submarines follows Defence Minister Ng Hen's comments in March about Mindef's plan to replace the Challenge submarines with new ones.

Interesting as their own indigenous J-series 5th generation stealth fighters are still not yet in service and the PLAAF apparently has to fill in the gap with2 squadrons of effectively Flanker-upgraded Su-35s for the time being I guess. The real eye-opener is the purchase of the Lada-class AIP subs which are supposingly more deadly than the Kilo-class diesel ones. Guess all the claimant states of islands which PRC is also laying claims over have a real cause for concern for their naval vessels now that PLAN have both Kilos and Ladas in service... [sweatdrop] From CNA: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp...1262201/1/.html China to buy Russian fighters, subs Posted: 25 March 2013 1450 hrs BEIJING: China has agreed to buy two dozen fighter jets and four submarines from Russia, state media reported Monday, the country's first large-scale weapons technology purchases from Moscow in a decade. The agreement to buy the 24 Su-35 fighters and four Lada-class submarines was signed just before President Xi Jinping's weekend visit to Russia, said the People's Daily, the Communist Party organ, citing state television. The report, which did not give a value for the purchases, said it was the first time in 10 years China had bought "large military technological equipment" from Russia. The deal comes as Beijing expands its military reach -- it commissioned its first aircraft carrier last year -- and is embroiled in a bitter territorial row with Japan over disputed islands in the East China Sea. Two of the submarines will be built in Russia, with the other two to be built in China. "The Su-35 fighters can effectively reduce pressure on China's air defence before Chinese-made stealth fighters come online," the report said. China and Russia are expected to co-operate further in developing military technology, the report said, including that for S-400 long-range anti-aircraft missiles, 117S large thrust engines, IL-476 large transport aircraft and IL-78 aerial tankers. China's defence ministry had no immediate comment on the report. Xi visited Moscow from Friday to Sunday for talks with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, his first trip abroad since becoming head of state earlier this month. The countries signed around 30 energy and other agreements during the visit. Xi also met Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and became the first foreign leader to visit the Russian armed forces' control centre. Moscow and Beijing, which were once bitter foes during the Cold War, have strengthened cooperation in recent years to counterbalance what they see as US global dominance. Earlier this month China announced a further double-digit rise in its defence budget, raising it by 10.7 percent to 720.2 billion yuan ($116.3 billion) in 2013. -AFP/ac

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