Cool_jazz Neutral Newbie February 5, 2006 Author Share February 5, 2006 5 door Stilo? I am not a hatch person. Only Sedan and Wagon ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normal_aspirated Clutched February 5, 2006 Share February 5, 2006 (edited) Italian belle, German workhorse, Japanese Geisha or Swedish Vikings? Spaghetti or Sausages or Sushi or Meatballs? All I know is I would like to have a manual [/reply]deep in yer heart not yer head.....u will still love an italian belle. Edited February 5, 2006 by Normal_aspirated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe 3rd Gear February 5, 2006 Share February 5, 2006 (edited) very hard loh...no sedan manual here. but NA is right, wait for the 159 manual. my exp with jap cars have tend to be 'i get sick of them real fast'. not so with my italian which still intrigues me everytime i drive it. Edited February 5, 2006 by Felipe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
W210k 1st Gear February 6, 2006 Share February 6, 2006 (edited) Though the Alfa 159 is a beaut, I'd hold back a bit until I am more sure about the 'new' General Motors (GM) engine block they have used to replace the original Alfa Romeo Twin Spark engine that has been around for ~2 decades. There was some kind of tie-up between Alfa and GM for the 159 ... can't recall the details. Its still TS though ... just not Alfa's. When I first read about the GM-derived engine in Euro mags last year, I must say I was a little disappointed. A visit to the Alfa showroom here confirmed it, and the sales person had then advised me to either get the remaining few 156JTS (the last 15x model with the 2L Alfa TS block), or scale down to the 146, which will still be retaining the original Alfa TS (1.6L) engine, albeit detuned to 105 BHP ... at least for now. Otherwise, I'd have to go to the 166 V6, if I still pine for an Alfa original. So much for GM ba5tardization of brand names and engines. As for the cars listed in your voting list, I'd drop all TC'd versions and stick to NA ... nothing beats the latter in the long run, literally. My choice would be the Honda EuroR with its screaming i-VTEC at 220(?) bhp. But what sells it even more (IMO) are the F/R double wishbone suspensions ... indeed a rarity nowadays (even half-disappearing from Lexus' new range) and the LSD. It is the LSD that made the difference between the Ford Focus Mk I and the current Mk II. The handling of the newer Focus does not quite reach the iconic handling prowess of the original Focus. Geometry, load distribution and suspension tuning aside, Ford took away the LSD because of cost reasons (stated so in the model launch reviews). It's just too bad. Edited February 6, 2006 by W210k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool_jazz Neutral Newbie February 6, 2006 Author Share February 6, 2006 Yes, I love spaghettis. They are good for health Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool_jazz Neutral Newbie February 6, 2006 Author Share February 6, 2006 Manual Sedan? Have lah... the Euro-R is one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wankie Clutched February 6, 2006 Share February 6, 2006 new civic sedan i think oso got manual but the dashboard to me is love it or hate it, i don't like it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear February 6, 2006 Share February 6, 2006 how come you never put LGT/Wagon manual (STi version) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear February 6, 2006 Share February 6, 2006 But before you get an Alfa, are you successful, good-looking and possess awesome bedroom skills? I'm not too sure about the first 2 but for the last one, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear February 6, 2006 Share February 6, 2006 So i reckon I shud see sum " Tongkat Ali" stickers on sum alfas eh?..hahahahaah jus kidding..Happi CNY n be safe!! What's "Tongkat Ali"? same as the 'blue diamond' pills, herbal formula by the Malays (If I am not wrong) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear February 6, 2006 Share February 6, 2006 That one is a terror but really not my cup of tea with one kid of course not your cup of tea lah! wait till you have another 1 or 2, then LGT B Spec wagon will be the choice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool_jazz Neutral Newbie February 6, 2006 Author Share February 6, 2006 Focus mk 1 has LSD? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool_jazz Neutral Newbie February 6, 2006 Author Share February 6, 2006 new civic sedan i think oso got manual but the dashboard to me is love it or hate it, i don't like it Agree, I hate it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool_jazz Neutral Newbie February 6, 2006 Author Share February 6, 2006 how come you never put LGT/Wagon manual (STi version) Too raw for me lah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool_jazz Neutral Newbie February 6, 2006 Author Share February 6, 2006 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
W210k 1st Gear February 6, 2006 Share February 6, 2006 I thought we were comparing performance cars here ... right? The 159, EuroR, LGT, 9-3 and all ..., so by including the Focus RS, did not think I needed to elaborate. How to compare the Focus 1.6? Of course I was referring to the Ford Focus RS (Mk I), vs the new Focus ST (Mk II). Ford does not and will not produce the RS version anymore ... its just too expensive. They have said so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear February 6, 2006 Share February 6, 2006 Aiyoh, it's the best of both world lah! sleeper car somemore, MY cars in N/S HW will get a shock from it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool_jazz Neutral Newbie February 6, 2006 Author Share February 6, 2006 I was thinking in the Singapore context...... here no RS and ST lah.... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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