Expect more pump price increases

[Elfenstar]

Crude oil prices have now surpassed both the 2006 peak and July 2007 peaks and if it holds high, prices WILL increase. Complain as much as you like, it looks inevitable to me.

 

Demand is still high. Supply is not keeping up. Don't be surprised at paying $3 or 4 per litre by 2010.

 

Thank goodness I drive very economically - from observation, most people here have NO idea how to do it. They think they know in theory but have no idea how to put into practice.

 

Errm unless our sgd has dropped together with the usd shouldn't there be little/no change in the prices??? Prices here in aust have actually dropped as a result of this.

[Ahyoo2002]

Civic 1.6 also more than $70k liao

 

So to me, Civic Hybrid is not really over price.

 

If you really want to compare, maybe need to compare quipment level, power, etc......

 

But hor, I am not expert here.

[Ahyoo2002]

here is the math on hybrid.

 

assumption based on civic hybrid vs civic 1.8a becos

a) power/torque is most similar

b) similar trim level

c) same car body

d) cvt and auto

e) we try compare apple to apple, although not exact cos one is 1.3, the other 1.8

f) omv is estimate from lta website

g) price based on km list price at 17 jul (when i bought), @$16,000

h) 10 years of use

i) insurance is the same

j) guesstimations are out, e.g. cost of mtce. we use hard figures or figures derived from somewhere/something.

 

model hybrid 1.8a

price 78,200 79,500

omv 24,918 19,458

coe 16,000 16,000

parf 8,721.30 10,701.90

DEP/yr 6,947.87 6,879.81

 

road tax/yr 695 1,150 (rounded off)

 

COST/yr 7,642.87 8,029.81

 

how on earth is it that people keep saying fc savings is not worth it? we have not even added in the fc savings yet.

 

like i said, compare hybrid with its equal. if im looking at latio, i wont consider civic hybrid becos it is 2 different cars. and if u keep comparing hybrid to other make, stop! it is like comparing mini cooper to kelisa. both small car but world apart.

 

but if u r looking at civic or similar car, then do the math. dats wat i did.

 

cheers!

 

[Icekitten]

Sorry...maybe this is a bit off-topic...

 

But did petrol prices just increase by 5 cents again?

 

I haven't been pumping lately coz my ride is in the workshop.

 

Last price I noticed for 98 was $1.74.

 

Today passed by a Shell and noticed the price for 98 is $1.797.

[Chisiang]

PPL here all hearsay only la. you tell them about FED rates and US dollar they think it's Off topic. Obviously they don't think inflation exist in Singapore.

 

20 years later they will still be talking about fuel price comparing to today's price

[Elfenstar]

i also dunno how to reply to that... its true for some but false for other members....

[Blackhouse]

My Fuel Efficiency Tips (in order of effectiveness) since somebody asked

 

1. Avoid traffic jams / peak periods

 

2. Minimise braking - I don't understand why there is a need to rush to the next RED light - I have found that to be a huge fuel burner. Take it easy. This technique means I get 10 km/l in city driving with my 2.0 litre car. In my last car, I did 90000km and my tyres and brakes were still less than half worn.

 

3. Slow down on eways. 80 km/h on the left lane is quite therapeutic and only costs me 3 minutes more for my City to Pasir Ris journey. I average 15-16 km/l on these runs on my 2.0 litre car. Reckon the lower stress of relaxed driving will add 2-3 years to my life....

 

4. Don't accelerate hard.

 

5. Slow down in town. Western cities are starting to get strict on speed limits in towns to lower pedestrian deaths. I always comply with the 50 km/h limit. - this also helps point 2 above...

 

6. Keep tyre pressures 10% above recommended

 

 

End result - 30,000 km on my Subaru Legacy on 2,100 litres of petrol.

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Thanks for sharing your tips on reducing FC.

Can't agree more on your points. Just curious, I always tot higher cruising speed give better FC. If I undertand you correctly, you mean 80km/h better than 100km/h?

 

I'm driving Latio. I do the same as you except point 3 & 5. On eway, I run the righ most lane at 90~100km/h. So far my best FC is 11.4km/l, yet still suspect due to the pumper auto-stop pre-mature accidently. because the following tank only give 10.5km/l back to normal and worse. 20%HW 80%City.

[Hiphiphoray]

My Fuel Efficiency Tips (in order of effectiveness) since somebody asked

 

1. Avoid traffic jams / peak periods

 

2. Minimise braking - I don't understand why there is a need to rush to the next RED light - I have found that to be a huge fuel burner. Take it easy. This technique means I get 10 km/l in city driving with my 2.0 litre car. In my last car, I did 90000km and my tyres and brakes were still less than half worn.

 

3. Slow down on eways. 80 km/h on the left lane is quite therapeutic and only costs me 3 minutes more for my City to Pasir Ris journey. I average 15-16 km/l on these runs on my 2.0 litre car. Reckon the lower stress of relaxed driving will add 2-3 years to my life....

 

4. Don't accelerate hard.

 

5. Slow down in town. Western cities are starting to get strict on speed limits in towns to lower pedestrian deaths. I always comply with the 50 km/h limit. - this also helps point 2 above...

 

6. Keep tyre pressures 10% above recommended

 

 

End result - 30,000 km on my Subaru Legacy on 2,100 litres of petrol.

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Wah liew....i dont think the legacy is meant to be driven this way. A bit wastefull on the car lei.

 

Better u drive Vios or Axio.....then can get 50km/ltr.

 

Joking only har.....

[Chucky2007]

My Fuel Efficiency Tips (in order of effectiveness) since somebody asked

 

1. Avoid traffic jams / peak periods

 

2. Minimise braking - I don't understand why there is a need to rush to the next RED light - I have found that to be a huge fuel burner. Take it easy. This technique means I get 10 km/l in city driving with my 2.0 litre car. In my last car, I did 90000km and my tyres and brakes were still less than half worn.

 

3. Slow down on eways. 80 km/h on the left lane is quite therapeutic and only costs me 3 minutes more for my City to Pasir Ris journey. I average 15-16 km/l on these runs on my 2.0 litre car. Reckon the lower stress of relaxed driving will add 2-3 years to my life....

 

4. Don't accelerate hard.

 

5. Slow down in town. Western cities are starting to get strict on speed limits in towns to lower pedestrian deaths. I always comply with the 50 km/h limit. - this also helps point 2 above...

 

6. Keep tyre pressures 10% above recommended

 

 

End result - 30,000 km on my Subaru Legacy on 2,100 litres of petrol.

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wow! 30000km with 2100litre of petrol! and somemore its a 2litre AWD subaru! that's 14+km per litre! yr FC is equavalent to 1.3litre fwd car.

[Kelpie]

here is the math on hybrid.

 

assumption based on civic hybrid vs civic 1.8a becos

a) power/torque is most similar

b) similar trim level

c) same car body

d) cvt and auto

e) we try compare apple to apple, although not exact cos one is 1.3, the other 1.8

f) omv is estimate from lta website

g) price based on km list price at 17 jul (when i bought), @$16,000

h) 10 years of use

i) insurance is the same

j) guesstimations are out, e.g. cost of mtce. we use hard figures or figures derived from somewhere/something.

 

model hybrid 1.8a

price 78,200 79,500

omv 24,918 19,458

coe 16,000 16,000

parf 8,721.30 10,701.90

DEP/yr 6,947.87 6,879.81

 

road tax/yr 695 1,150 (rounded off)

 

COST/yr 7,642.87 8,029.81

 

how on earth is it that people keep saying fc savings is not worth it? we have not even added in the fc savings yet.

 

like i said, compare hybrid with its equal. if im looking at latio, i wont consider civic hybrid becos it is 2 different cars. and if u keep comparing hybrid to other make, stop! it is like comparing mini cooper to kelisa. both small car but world apart.

 

but if u r looking at civic or similar car, then do the math. dats wat i did.

 

cheers!

 

1. Sure that is a good maths. It is still more econmical for me to pump in JB then to get a Hybrid. My driving pleasure will also not be hampered by a 1.3L car, slow pick-up is something I hate... Getting a Civic Hybrid is still better than getting a prius, one of the top 10 ugliest cars.

 

2. By the way, if this maths really work and can help to save money, then why are we not seeing a big jump in hybrid population despite of consistent hike in petrol price? This is why Maths cannot be used alone to explain consumer behaviour.

 

Regards,

[Russ]

I started this thread and "DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU"

[Mlimhs]

$3-$4/litre by 2010 I think alot of ppl will give up driving liao. A 50 litre tank will cost $200. I pump 6 full tanks a month. So that makes $1200! More ex than car installment. I rather take cab everyday, still can save on road tax and insurance.

 

Gosh...if it is true that $3 - $4/litre by near future, it will be a national disaters liao. It will be a ridiculus price tag. Hope our situations will not be like Myanmar now

[Toyo]

By then we shld all be using alternatives such as CNG

[Mlimhs]

Indeed i agreed with u

[Ooniik]

My Fuel Efficiency Tips (in order of effectiveness) since somebody asked

 

1. Avoid traffic jams / peak periods

 

2. Minimise braking - I don't understand why there is a need to rush to the next RED light - I have found that to be a huge fuel burner. Take it easy. This technique means I get 10 km/l in city driving with my 2.0 litre car. In my last car, I did 90000km and my tyres and brakes were still less than half worn.

 

3. Slow down on eways. 80 km/h on the left lane is quite therapeutic and only costs me 3 minutes more for my City to Pasir Ris journey. I average 15-16 km/l on these runs on my 2.0 litre car. Reckon the lower stress of relaxed driving will add 2-3 years to my life....

 

4. Don't accelerate hard.

 

5. Slow down in town. Western cities are starting to get strict on speed limits in towns to lower pedestrian deaths. I always comply with the 50 km/h limit. - this also helps point 2 above...

 

6. Keep tyre pressures 10% above recommended

 

 

End result - 30,000 km on my Subaru Legacy on 2,100 litres of petrol.

--------------------

 

Bro u driving preFL NaR izzit?

Good mileage there and good tips

[Jman888]

1. a lot of people still do not know about what is a hybrid car

 

2. S'porean is less sensitive to petrol price increase (according to a survey did few months ago)

 

3. we still like to sprint from 1 traffic light to another

 

if i am wrong hybird car will get you 25-30km/l until the petrol price goes up to make us feel the pinch perhaps many will start to change

[Toyo]

and then the pump price will come down as its no longer in high demand

[Slowmo]

Warn already also no use.

 

What do you think we can do? All of us sell car and take public transport?

 

I think our world class transport will collapse if we all sell car and take public transport.