Chisiang 2nd Gear March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 Me thinking of buying the D80 body only because I have alot of old nikon AFS lenses which D60 and below cannot support. But my old lenses are big and heavy lor. Really in a serious dilemma whether if I should go for the new VR lenses like you did. VR helps shaky hands....many a times it's useful. Going to tokyo in 3days time. Plan was to buy D80 body and come back coz it's only $1100 there. I'm in Tokyo now, just gotten full D300 and a 24mm prime lens. 24mm.. hmm.. even got money oso cannot buy, coz I couldn't find it at all in SG!! I would presume you have gotten the AF 24mm F/2.8 version? The reason why you can't find it in Singapore is because for the past few years Nikon has been trying to push hard for their DX format. With the DX format, 24mm is really not wide enough for landscape photography. On the film, the AF 24mm F/2.8 is king. On DX format, it is neither here nor there. That's why a lot of people move on to the DX 12-24 or the AF-S 17-35mm F/2.8 It is also a very old lens released back in 1993 and will likely be due for a replacement soon. Certain weird items can be found in Japan but for popular ones SG still can find. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisiang 2nd Gear March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 prime lens is good..for the fact that the f-value is is much more lower than zoom lens for a smaller size lens.. my next lens will be either the 85mm f1.8 or the 100mm f2.8 macro.. The 85mm F/1.8 a bit waste time. Go for the F/1.4 one. That is the Portrait King lens of Nikkor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tashi Clutched March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 hi bro Just imho, like couple of bros here said, you can consider Pentax too. The Pentax DSLR has some interesting features like shake reduction and weather/dust resistance, and some rather interesting prime lenses with very low profile. I bought one recently, and is quite happy with it, plus it is reasonable in costs compared to some more known brands. The slight downside is the lesser availability of accessories and options in normal shops in malls, compared to the more known brands. I have used a wide spectrum of cameras from Canon, Olympus, Mamiya, Rollei (in my younger days as a professional/trade user) to these days using the likes of Panasonic Lumix, and now Pentax (for just hobby and family shots). Like some bros here and I concur imho, the camera might be "less" important than your choice of perspective and reflection of the images presented. keep blessed + Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 I started out with my father's Yashica rangefinder. Focusing with it is very strange (rangefinder) but it was fast. Now not really into DSLRs but prosumers. I want speed in whipping it out. Even when looking at prosumers, I prefer fast start up. Different people are schooled in different ways. Later, in biology, I showed amateurs how to use the defunct Polaroid darkroom equipment to take pictures of gels. Even went on to process X-ray films the old style using tanks and developers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shull Turbocharged March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 er..i using canon lah.. the next better alternative to the 85mm f1.8 will be the f1.2L..which cost a BOMB.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowmo Clutched March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 Not sure how much the nikon one costs but I'm using the 50mm F/1.8... cheap and damn good. got money can get the f/1.2 but imho, not worth the price... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowmo Clutched March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 tried out both the tamron(or was it sigma?) and canon macros, go for the 100mm canon even when it costs a bit more for that add 10mm. the non-canon macros takes forever to focus if you are running AF. Manual focusing is a b1tch as well... unless you are often taking pictures of insects that are not afraid of camera clicks and moves very slowly. Or maybe it's just me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shull Turbocharged March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 must get the 100mm f2.8 USM.. without USM, AF can really go up lorry..esp in low light conditions.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shull Turbocharged March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 to answer threadstarter's question, i am using canon's DSLR..any question you're welcome to ask me or drop me a PM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contax 1st Gear March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 hmm , you mean the canon 'L' lenses. Beautiful optics . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboy 1st Gear March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 fast startup still has to be DSLR unless u talking abt the huge a$$ ones where pple usually store lens separately from the body.. i went straight from PnS digital to DSLR. i did try prosumer and i think it has it's niche as well. but not for my use la.. IMHO, prosumer is much closer to PnS than to DSLR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contax 1st Gear March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 No doubt that Carl Zeiss and Leica are superior in SLR lens, but do you know how much Carl Zeiss glasses you have in a Sony DC ? Ans : less than a 10-cent coin, and only one piece in the many pieces. The rest are "plastic" lens to bring down the cost. You might have more Carl Zeiss lens if you pay for the Sony's Alpha DSLR professional range lens, but their prices also reflected that. it only make sense to buy those CZ lenses seconh hand.....if there's any Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contax 1st Gear March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 I learn the hard way .I started my hobby during teens with a very basic nikkormat FT3 from my neighbour(that was in the early 80's) and while in Sec 3 manage to convince my dad to buy me a Nikon FM and a 43~86 nikkor zoom . Later in life when I started working , spend most of my income on cameras and lenses like F2AS /F801/F801s/F4 ; a Leica M5 ; a Hasselblad 500cm ; Mamiya 645s etc . I still have with me a Contax AX /Contax G1 ; a Rolleiflex 6002 and a Rolleiflex Xenotar F2.8(TLR) which was made in 1958 ; and some lenses . To be a accomplish photographer , one need to take lots of picture and try every angle and are willing to accept mistake and learn from it.Looking and reading what others are doing is also essential . In all I did not regret getting into this expensive hobbies but rather , help me stay out of harm way many-a-time during the growing up stage. Walao ! Your collection make my mouth watering. Just make sure to use them from time to time to prevent mould from building. I'll try bro .tks for the compliment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contax 1st Gear March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 those were the days.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contax 1st Gear March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 does the lens really play a part in the final image?I mean during the pre-digital age , carl zeiss and leica are consider much more superior than the then current japan lenses. I'm also looking to buy a DSLR too and I'm leaning towards the Sony with carl zeiss lenses . Yes, lens quality will dictate image sharpness, AF Speed, contrast, colour reproduction, DOF, as well as bokeh quality. While on the other hand, the camera body will determine the AF algorithm speed, and sensor noise level, shutter speed, ease of use, etc. Lens construction, type and quantity of element used, manufacturing know-how, lens diaphragm, and actual lens test and review by experts and professionals are used to determine the superiority of a lens, and not BRAND NAMEs wow !!good knowledge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contax 1st Gear March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 [/reply] You cannot say that inferior equipment under the hands of PRO will make the photo superb as well. Talent and experience can only bring you so far, the rest will be equipment le. For example in capturing fast moving subjects like sports, the focusing speed and focus algorithms are much superior in the PRO level DSLRs and with a entry level DSLRs, even a PRO finds it hard to get the job done. [/reply] Yes I concur with your finding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tploh Clutched March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 Canon is highly respected in DSLR, while Nikon is crown to the SLR world, for a Japanese brand camera. I bought a used Canon 300D for less than $400 to toy around with it before I decide to invest into the latest tech DSLR as depreciation of DSLR is very high. Currently, I am very happy with Canon 300D and never felt the 6-million pixel is insufficient at all. So will stay put with it until the price of DSLR becomes mainstream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contax 1st Gear March 24, 2008 Share March 24, 2008 you bought it from those 2nd hand shop in peninsula ? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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