Canon dslr camera

[Slowmo]

The only thing superior about PnS and rangefinder over DLSR is that they are quiet. Extremely good if you wanna do upskirt or down blouse when you don't want your subject to know and that image quality is not an issue

 

 

I don't agree.

Down blouse can use my 70-300mm IS USM.... 300 meters away can take capture

upskirt, DSLR got ISO1600 minimum.

 

 

The only P&S that can compete in ISO is the Fuji F31 but has abysmal focus times

 

 

The rest I kinda agree, I take about 1 sec to take off cap at the same time right thumb flip on switch and finger on shutter, by the time I bring camera to eyes, less than 3 seconds in total. I always on 'burst' and sometimes autofocus-servo mode, so shutter goes on and on till buffer full (about 6 continual shots with raw, 9-10 in JPEG). I don't see any P&S or prosumer being able to do that.

 

Try a simple experiment = take hamsters running a wheel and it flip in midair, see how you can manage with a P&S and how easily you can do with a DSLR.

 

 

To add, there is an advantage of running around with both a DSLR and P&S, on some subjects where you don't want to 'waste' on a RAW, a P&S should do. Or sometimes some P&S can surprise you, I had a canon A430 which can do a macro 3cm away from the lens.

 

 

But on another note, given a DSLR, if one is going to use the auto features totally w/o learning all the manual settings (iso/f stops/etc), probably a prosumer will have better results.

Edited March 25, 2008 by Slowmo

[Genie47]

As BoyBoy has said. Different era and I have used a rangefinder before. It is really fast. It is not automatic and focusing with it is the only thing that I got to learn. Damn strange system. Turn until the two pips align. Dunno how the hell did the Germans come up with something like that but it is damn fast when you got used to it.

 

Anyway, PnS is fast if you get the right one. I only buy the fast start up ones. I'm the KISS kind of photographer. The picture does not come from the camera. The picture comes from the eyes of the photographer. The technology can be a saver however.....

 

I am rather sad that photography has become too technology focused at the same time.

[Genie47]

Recharge? You got to be kidding. When you are out on those wedding shoots or just because you feel like going out to shoot, you always bring battery packs. Know of this guy. Always bring 2 spare including the one in the camera with him.

 

Rangefinder is a camera but different way of working. It is not an SLR. You either like it or hate it but for those field photographers then, it was essential.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangefinder_camera

 

Yes, as the Wiki entry says, damn expensive compared to DSLRs and it is sad they might be faded to oblivion. The damn Voigtlander cost more than your average DSLR by many times.

 

The one I used from my dad was the Yashica Electro CC. Now highly sought after in the collectors market.

[Slowmo]

oooh.. so this is what you guys call 'rangefinder'.... kaoz.

 

i've been playing with a yashica one for years didn't know it had a fancy name like this.

[Contax]

No. In Hong Kong.

 

Hong Kong cxonsumers always chase for the latest technology, so they sell their used IT gadgets cheaply. Can go to HK website www.dchome.net to have a flavour.

 

I would assume Pennisular is more expensive than SG. given its import duty and small consumer base.

 

oh sorry , what i meant was our Peninsula hotel shopping mall where's there's a couple of 'established' 2nd hand photographic eqpt dealer there.

[Chisiang]

Genie, you only mentioned half the problem of a range finder, the other half is determining the exposure My dad has a few collecting dust at home too. And the winding of film is slow too

 

And BTW they are invented by Kodak, not the German.

 

I don't think there's any fast startup PnS. BTW which fast PnS model you using now. I may want to get one since I sold my Lumix LX-2

 

On the contrary, PnS camera seldom produces "from the eye" photos. It is the DSLRs with expensive lens that is capable of producing "from the eye" photos because with a single reflex mirror as their name suggest, they are able to give you WYSIWYG through the view finder. PnS is giving you LCD view and not a true "from the eye".

Edited March 25, 2008 by Chisiang

[Contax]

hmm , you mean the canon 'L' lenses.

Beautiful optics .

 

Yeah, mainly L lenses, but I have L lens that is not white... so.. haha.

 

Those are the things in photography you will love to hate and hate to love.

High quality lens but heavy like hell to lug around, but when see the result, very satisfying.

 

no pain no gain - especially true in photography.otherwise everyone armed with a entry level plastic lens and basic camera can be offering his serice liao..

[Contax]

For simple walkaround photography , I still have my trusty Contax G1.

[Slowmo]

i know someone will shoot me for saying this but go for canon G9, the AF is very fast and shutter response very good. I like.

 

But it's not exactly P&S.

[Slowmo]

Well, way before the internet, anyone with a homesetup darkroom and a basic camera can make a popular 'artistic' magazines for men It's the market niche and demand I would say.

Edited March 25, 2008 by Slowmo

[Shull]

1 problem i faced with using PnS is the inability to shoot in low light condition..or rather, i can't see sh*t from the LCD screen on what i am shooting..esp those with EV viewfinder..

 

and i am sure my 20D can startup, focus and shoot at a subject faster than most PnS take to startup..

[Slowmo]

there's one gripe i have about P&S cameras and their users.

 

They always adopt this 'Kungfu stance', arms bent, holding camera infront of their face about 40cm away, eyes squinting at the LCD preview, at the same time upper chest is lean backwards and abdomen slightly thrust infront, feet apart from each other.

 

Takes 5 minutes to layout, 1 minutes to tell subject to smile, 1,2,3..etc

 

[Chisiang]

You mean these?

[Slowmo]

*slaps forehead*

*faint*

 

can't believe you can find such photos bro... speechless

[Chisiang]

I like this one best!

 

 

The Drunken Master Stance!

 

Don't laugh! You try replicating his stance... don't have 10 years kung fu foundation you cannot balance properly

[Slowmo]

 

[Boyboy]

Recharge? You got to be kidding. When you are out on those wedding shoots or just because you feel like going out to shoot, you always bring battery packs. Know of this guy. Always bring 2 spare including the one in the camera with him.

 

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i dun mean recharge while outside la.. i mean recharge when get back

 

i think i shot over 2k pix at airshow. didn't run out of batt. rangefinder how to do tt? unless u tell me got digital.

 

i read up on rangefinders, very interesting. but u shd try a modern mid range DSLR and see if rangefinder still faster.

 

ok granted manual focus with SLR is a pain and certain trying conditions may boggle the AF sensor (e.g. focusing on smooth surfaces without obvious pattern)

[Boyboy]

. PnS is giving you LCD view and not a true "from the eye".

 

correction. PnS LCD is from the eye indeed.

 

PnS VIEWFINDER is the one which isn't the actual image. i think u got it abit mixed up