318 or 320?

[inlinesix]

Bro, the R32 is actually 4WD.

Oops. Misinformation from my end. Thanks for the correction. This is what we need in MCF.

[Davc]

Oops. Misinformation from my end. Thanks for the correction. This is what we need in MCF.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubzc0XLpbn0

 

I think the video is not complete, in the end they did a timing round the track, and VW came up faster because of the twisty track with its 4WD.

Edited September 29, 2009 by Davc

[Cerano]

Not the AMG, but the sales told him is Mercedes Brakes, silver colour with mercedes benz on the caliper, drilled.

 

About the wheels:

 

Say you corner on rainy day, the front wheel is newer and cleared the patch of water pretty well, by the time the rear wheel come to the patch of water it slides because no more groove to drain the water, hence the tail goes out due to hydroplaning. Hence better to have newer wheels at behind.

 

On a dry day, if you have broad rear tires, it grips harder hence more difficult to lose traction behind. In this case, we see staggered set up.

 

So, in almost all situation it is better to have better tires behind if you have to choose. However in normal situation you just rotate tires often (non staggered), no need to make such decisions.

 

here's a video

 

Therefore, know the reasons, and make a good decision for your own situation.

 

oh. i believe the calipers with the MB word is identical to the calipers without. that is for the C-class at least. factory fitted AMG bodykit comes with the MB wording

 

i believe if you dont go tracking staggered isnt that impt

[Viceroymenthol]

R32 is AWD.

 

In general, AWD is more of a performance enhancement for handling and grip, and 4WD is more an off-road and snow driving capability.

 

 

What is the difference between Full time Four Wheel Drive (4WD) All Wheel Drive (AWD) and automatic All Wheel Drive (auto AWD)?

 

 

Full time four wheel drive, also called permanent 4WD, (not to be confused with: part time 4WD ) is a system that powers all four wheels at all times and can be used full time on all surfaces including pavement. The additional feature of a differential incorporated into the transfer case makes it possible to use 4WD all the time.

2WD is not available (only part time 4WD offers that option). Each tire creates about 25% of the available torque when the ground is level with a consistant surface. Driver has a choice of a "4-high" (that's your every day setting) and "4-low".

 

When "4-low" is selected the wheels create substantially more torque (on a Grand Cherokee its 2.72 times more) than in "4-high" - at the same time the vehicle moves at substantially slower speeds (2.72 times slower on a Jeep Grand Cherokee).

 

Important: "4-low" does not create more traction - it creates more torque and that can be detrimental when traction is marginal. Slipping tires are more likely in "low" than in "high"!

 

The low setting is an advantage for drivers who need to tow and maneuver a heavy trailer etc. and for drivers who at one point or another may want to negotiate difficult off-road terrain, when more torque and/or slower speed is needed.

 

All wheel drive (AWD) is a system that powers all four wheels of a vehicle at all times as well. Full time symmetric AWD would be the best term to be used. Difference to full time 4WD is that a "4-low" setting is not available in AWD cars. Due to the lack of "low range" AWD vehicles are much less capable in off-road settings than full time 4WD vehicles, but work perfectly well on-road.

 

Recently some new "automatic" AWD systems have emerged. Fancy names like "Real Time 4WD" or "active AWD" are hiding the fact that they are essentially sophisticated 2WD systems. Automatic asymmetric AWD would be the best term for them. Unfortunately, since they offer AWD only part of the time, some magazines have now called it "part time 4WD" - but that term has been used since WW II for cars like the Willys and Jeep Wrangler and their part time 4WD - the name coming from the fact that 4WD can only be used part of the time (when off-road), most of the time they have to operate in 2WD (on-road). Automatic asymmetric AWD is much less capable in off-road settings than full time AWD systems and inferior to full time 4WD. However, automatic asymmetrical AWD is becoming more and more sophisticated and offers pretty much everything consumers expect for everyday (pavement) driving.

 

Here is how they work: During traction loss at the driven axle (could be front or rear) a fully automatic system (hydraulic, mechanical or electronic) increases torque to the axle with traction. This means you have to completely lose traction in 2WD on your driven axle first and then the other axle will take over and try to keep the car moving and stable. So, for a brief moment you have AWD. Once the primary driven axle regains traction and both axles rotate at the same speed again, the system reverts back to 2WD.

 

Examples: Honda CRV, Toyota RAV4, LandRover Freelander, Isuzu Trooper (TOD), Volvo V70, 1999 and later Jeep Grand Cherokee (in high range)

 

A frequent consumer complaint about some automatic AWD is, that all 4 tires need to be replaced even if only 1 or 2 are bad.

[Davc]

oh. i believe the calipers with the MB word is identical to the calipers without. that is for the C-class at least. factory fitted AMG bodykit comes with the MB wording

 

i believe if you dont go tracking staggered isnt that impt

 

Well, if your car is RWD and has lots of power, staggered set up surely helps.

 

The disc is drilled. Same or not I don't know the details.

[Davc]

R32 is AWD.

 

In general, AWD is more of a performance enhancement for handling and grip, and 4WD is more an off-road and snow driving capability.

 

 

What is the difference between Full time Four Wheel Drive (4WD) All Wheel Drive (AWD) and automatic All Wheel Drive (auto AWD)?

 

 

Full time four wheel drive, also called permanent 4WD, (not to be confused with: part time 4WD ) is a system that powers all four wheels at all times and can be used full time on all surfaces including pavement. The additional feature of a differential incorporated into the transfer case makes it possible to use 4WD all the time.

2WD is not available (only part time 4WD offers that option). Each tire creates about 25% of the available torque when the ground is level with a consistant surface. Driver has a choice of a "4-high" (that's your every day setting) and "4-low".

 

When "4-low" is selected the wheels create substantially more torque (on a Grand Cherokee its 2.72 times more) than in "4-high" - at the same time the vehicle moves at substantially slower speeds (2.72 times slower on a Jeep Grand Cherokee).

 

Important: "4-low" does not create more traction - it creates more torque and that can be detrimental when traction is marginal. Slipping tires are more likely in "low" than in "high"!

 

The low setting is an advantage for drivers who need to tow and maneuver a heavy trailer etc. and for drivers who at one point or another may want to negotiate difficult off-road terrain, when more torque and/or slower speed is needed.

 

All wheel drive (AWD) is a system that powers all four wheels of a vehicle at all times as well. Full time symmetric AWD would be the best term to be used. Difference to full time 4WD is that a "4-low" setting is not available in AWD cars. Due to the lack of "low range" AWD vehicles are much less capable in off-road settings than full time 4WD vehicles, but work perfectly well on-road.

 

Recently some new "automatic" AWD systems have emerged. Fancy names like "Real Time 4WD" or "active AWD" are hiding the fact that they are essentially sophisticated 2WD systems. Automatic asymmetric AWD would be the best term for them. Unfortunately, since they offer AWD only part of the time, some magazines have now called it "part time 4WD" - but that term has been used since WW II for cars like the Willys and Jeep Wrangler and their part time 4WD - the name coming from the fact that 4WD can only be used part of the time (when off-road), most of the time they have to operate in 2WD (on-road). Automatic asymmetric AWD is much less capable in off-road settings than full time AWD systems and inferior to full time 4WD. However, automatic asymmetrical AWD is becoming more and more sophisticated and offers pretty much everything consumers expect for everyday (pavement) driving.

 

Here is how they work: During traction loss at the driven axle (could be front or rear) a fully automatic system (hydraulic, mechanical or electronic) increases torque to the axle with traction. This means you have to completely lose traction in 2WD on your driven axle first and then the other axle will take over and try to keep the car moving and stable. So, for a brief moment you have AWD. Once the primary driven axle regains traction and both axles rotate at the same speed again, the system reverts back to 2WD.

 

Examples: Honda CRV, Toyota RAV4, LandRover Freelander, Isuzu Trooper (TOD), Volvo V70, 1999 and later Jeep Grand Cherokee (in high range)

 

A frequent consumer complaint about some automatic AWD is, that all 4 tires need to be replaced even if only 1 or 2 are bad.

 

perfect scandinavian flick. This is AWD or 4WD?

 

 

As long as they are fun to drive, FWD, RWD, AWD etc.....it doesn't really matter that much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Littlered]

I would have preferred the 1-er to come with hydraulic power steering, like the 3-er and higher models.

 

Its electric power steering is OK, only thing is its handling at limits.

The 135 comes with hydraulic rack-and-pinion.

[Qr25vet]

yes the only cars tt come with electric power steering is the Z series...