Keithchue 5th Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 guys, how to increase perfomance to a car without any bolts ons, i have tried TB cleaning, engine flushes. seems like it will only last for a certain period of time and the effenicy decreases over time ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 guys, how to increase perfomance to a car without any bolts ons, i have tried TB cleaning, engine flushes. seems like it will only last for a certain period of time and the effenicy decreases over time Can check this forum and other forums on hypermiling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiming 1st Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 Simply put, you can't. Your car's performance will deteriorate over time due to wear and tear. What you can do is to minimize the drop in performance by regular servicing and conducting preventive maintenance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expertz 1st Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 actually this is something i've been thinking of myself and the only thing that i believe is not snake oil is ECU reflash even then that would not give you even 1 extra horse, it just releases the horses faster i believe everything else other than adding in a turbo are snake oil and dyno results will show no improvement including open pod, cold air intake, fuel additives... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerwoods Turbocharged October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 Increase engine performance ? Step Harder on the Accelerator loh... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Clutched October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 the best best is to change car. so how much money and time (which is not free) have you spent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsec 2nd Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 guys, how to increase perfomance to a car without any bolts ons, i have tried TB cleaning, engine flushes. seems like it will only last for a certain period of time and the effenicy decreases over time change ride.. what u had done were pointless... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 Simply put, you can't. Your car's performance will deteriorate over time due to wear and tear. What you can do is to minimize the drop in performance by regular servicing and conducting preventive maintenance. I watched the Top Gear show and they dyno tested those sub 20 years old Ferrari, Lambo and Masareti. Their performance actually dip drastically and they lose half of the horsepower by now . So performance don't last forever. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTan 2nd Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 Car engine is mechanical. The stroke and piston are designed and fixed. What are the variables you can change? Those will affect the engine performance. Like more air into engine, more fuel into engine = more power. So some throttle modifier trick you into believing that a small tap on the accelerator will give you super powerful engine. If fact they just advance the butterfly valve and fuel injection earlier. Infact when you step fully on the accelerator= trottle wide open, it achieve the same maximum possible air and fuel intake. so you see there is not much you can make a engine more powerful as the design is already fixed. Don't talk about drivability, as those ECU module just adjust the power curve to make it happen earlier an at little pedal movement, so it gives the impression of powerful engine. When in actual fact you can achieve the exact same feeling if you step the pedal deeper/more. Without touching the engine itself, there is very limited power to be gained. All the polishing, bigger exhaust, smoother intake, less resistance air filter, etc........will at most gain you few HP, which is indiscernible on the road. The cost of those modifications will be useful in a race track condition, on the road, who are you racing with? Mint as well remove all the dead weight in the car, for a cheaper and a most effective performance gain overall. But the engine till produce same power, while pulling a lighter load. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanter 3rd Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 actually this is something i've been thinking of myself and the only thing that i believe is not snake oil is ECU reflash even then that would not give you even 1 extra horse, it just releases the horses faster i believe everything else other than adding in a turbo are snake oil and dyno results will show no improvement including open pod, cold air intake, fuel additives... Depends on the car model. Certain cars like MAzda, the ECU will compensate itself for any mods made. So hard to mod. Certain cars like Honda there r tested mods which works. Generally, even piggyback etc cant improve much cos the manufacturer will alrdy squeeze almost the max outta the engines. If can find 10 bhp is achievement alrdy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zech Neutral Newbie October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 Other countries their basic mod is implant tubro or supercharger. The extreme one will be replacement of NA engine. Here the local country you mod as if you never mod becos of legal restriction. Once again performance will never be equal to FC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 Sprintbooster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 Sprintbooster Feel good on the butt . Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 Feel good on the butt . Regards, Best $300 spent if you want to improve the "feel" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 Other countries their basic mod is implant tubro or supercharger. The extreme one will be replacement of NA engine. Here the local country you mod as if you never mod becos of legal restriction. Once again performance will never be equal to FC. Some Car critics would think that turbo is a crude and an inexpensive way of extracting power. Some mags that I came across simply said it is a "no brainer" way. So the technology in getting 225bhp in a NA versus one getting 225bhp in a TC of the same cc is more much complex and technically challenging. If a country allows anyone to go the illegal way in enhancing performance in a crude manner, then people will tell you why buy high performance stock car in the 1st place? Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen 2nd Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 well said!! i am one of those who had spend a bomb on mod to increase power in the end, car is so rough that is not drivable. now my car is fully stock. learned my lesson already. want more power get a more powerful car, pointless to mod here and there and upset the balance of the car which the manufacturer has spend million on R & D to balance the car. Car engine is mechanical. The stroke and piston are designed and fixed. What are the variables you can change? Those will affect the engine performance. Like more air into engine, more fuel into engine = more power. So some throttle modifier trick you into believing that a small tap on the accelerator will give you super powerful engine. If fact they just advance the butterfly valve and fuel injection earlier. Infact when you step fully on the accelerator= trottle wide open, it achieve the same maximum possible air and fuel intake. so you see there is not much you can make a engine more powerful as the design is already fixed. Don't talk about drivability, as those ECU module just adjust the power curve to make it happen earlier an at little pedal movement, so it gives the impression of powerful engine. When in actual fact you can achieve the exact same feeling if you step the pedal deeper/more. Without touching the engine itself, there is very limited power to be gained. All the polishing, bigger exhaust, smoother intake, less resistance air filter, etc........will at most gain you few HP, which is indiscernible on the road. The cost of those modifications will be useful in a race track condition, on the road, who are you racing with? Mint as well remove all the dead weight in the car, for a cheaper and a most effective performance gain overall. But the engine till produce same power, while pulling a lighter load. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 Car engine is mechanical. The stroke and piston are designed and fixed. What are the variables you can change? Those will affect the engine performance. Like more air into engine, more fuel into engine = more power. So some throttle modifier trick you into believing that a small tap on the accelerator will give you super powerful engine. If fact they just advance the butterfly valve and fuel injection earlier. Infact when you step fully on the accelerator= trottle wide open, it achieve the same maximum possible air and fuel intake. so you see there is not much you can make a engine more powerful as the design is already fixed. Don't talk about drivability, as those ECU module just adjust the power curve to make it happen earlier an at little pedal movement, so it gives the impression of powerful engine. When in actual fact you can achieve the exact same feeling if you step the pedal deeper/more. Without touching the engine itself, there is very limited power to be gained. All the polishing, bigger exhaust, smoother intake, less resistance air filter, etc........will at most gain you few HP, which is indiscernible on the road. The cost of those modifications will be useful in a race track condition, on the road, who are you racing with? Mint as well remove all the dead weight in the car, for a cheaper and a most effective performance gain overall. But the engine till produce same power, while pulling a lighter load. more fuel doesnt mean more power in fact you have to attain 0.9 lambda for the stoichiometric ratio to attain max power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear October 19, 2010 Share October 19, 2010 Best $300 spent if you want to improve the "feel" No need lah, just switch to sports mode and there you go! Save the S$300. Regards, ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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