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[Wind30]

Life wasn't easier when we graduated 20 odd years ago. We had to save, give tuition to get through studies, put off buying a car etc. When I finally got a car on my own with full payment from savings, I opted for a 2nd hand Hyundai Excel and kept it for a long while.

 

That's how we get by.

 

Hearing from the younger generation, they seem to expect everything to be made available for them easily.

 

They better think: If they cannot compete with FTs on our homeground, how can we as Singapore compete with FTs boosting the economy oif their homelands that are rich in size and resources in the global economy? Better to get FTs working in Singapore to sustain our edge in the global economy, than for Singapore to become irrelevant economically.

 

Actually this is what I USED to think that the FT policy is good and helps to make us competitive.

 

But recently I feel it has REALLY gotten out of hand. If you look at the MILLIONS that our government pump into R&D every year and did you take a look at ASTAR? It is crazy. I can barely find a singaporean in the research institutes.

 

I understand that you need the REALLY good foreign talent to bring up the high tech industries but to the extent that 90% of them are not singaporeans? The culture is very bad as the managers are FT and create their own circles. The korean boss will have korean subordinates, the china ones will get china ones and the indians will get indians.

 

In the end nobody hire singaporeans and singaporean don't like to work in a place filled with Chinamen and Indians.

 

BTW, I AGREE that if we rely on singaporeans, we totally cannot make it. The point is how MUCH FT. When a workplace has like 90% FT, I think there is REALLY something wrong. That should not be the way our policies are heading.

Edited October 31, 2010 by Wind30

[Kelpie]

BTW, I AGREE that if we rely on singaporeans, we totally cannot make it. The point is how MUCH FT. When a workplace has like 90% FT, I think there is REALLY something wrong. That should not be the way our policies are heading.

 

So many that make you feel like you are the second class citizen not them .

 

Regards,

 

[1fast1]

Really?.... I remember about 2 yeras back while back for ICT. In camp, one of the NSF driver/MT line soldier had blond hair and blue eyes... I ask him what nationality he was.

 

His reply. British

 

That's how well 'integrated' things are going :angry:

 

There was a delivery van driver I met who was clearly a Brit (down to the working class accent). This was around 2008, during the depths of the financial meltdown. When Sgreans were losing their jobs left and right, and lots of locals were desperate.

 

Foreign Talents adding high-level value? Or doing low-level jobs that Singaporeans won't deign to do? Pffftttt, yeah right.

Edited October 31, 2010 by Turboflat4

[GoodCar]

I go back ICT, go to draw store from this ang moh NSF CQMS... ask him he from where, he say father mother USA, he born in spore... Bo bian need to serve. Haha.

 

 

1988' my CQ also angmo, but born and bread Singaporean that speak hokkien.

Down grade pess E due arm injury becos represent school in rugby.

Good fellow, will go battle with him any time.

[Civic2000]

 

[David]

Take Mr. Lim for a ride in a RSAF helicopter for a tour around the island to see what is he defending. If he still does not know, he can exit the helicopter straight away.

 

BTW, the helicopter is pilot by a foreign student who is now a SC.

[Porche]

high pay is keeping them busy how to spend it, idiots

[Happily1986]

Among the many downsides of what the garment is doing, there is one upside. That is, the gradual awakening of a collective consciousness. I sensed it coming when the ugly head of xenophobia started rear itself. Not that i am trying to talk about how bad this thing is going to turn out but all along, i have had this opinion that Singaporeans are generally self-centred.

 

Economic interests over political suffrage. So long as you can bring in the bread and bacon comfortably, noone gives a damn. I think this could have been the sole reason why the garmen have always been able to get away with whatever stunts they executed. But recently, i think many people started to feel themselves sliding out of the comfort zone and feel the heat. All the issues about livelihood, increased competition and inflation might have had a triggering effect.

 

When i used to talk to my friends about politics particularly governance, typically they give me 3 responses. or or .

Now i see some real talking. Finally.

[Zyrofillica]

"Just for fun, we can use a SC2 analogy. Competitive SC2 play is quite technical and frenetic - expand or die, keep up with the macro, micro units in battle across several locations, etc etc etc. But there're many people who just want to dick around and have fun because that's what a GAME is about, having fun. There's a place for both types of players. Now imagine if Blizzard had designed it so that only competitive players could access Battle.net. "

 

awesome analogy. I approve your msg!

[Iisterry]

nb...i give balance ok unker....as you see, I may feel that my job might be taken away by the next FT that comes by, but I have myself to prove that I can do a better job, and even though I am more ex, I give VALUE...knn

 

The point is we need to look out for the less fortunate. They are too busy being oppressed to stand up for themselves.

 

No one is questioning the importance or relevance of foreigners. It is the manner in which the policy is implemented.

 

And.. where is Lao Goh's children? I've been a member of his constituent for the past 28 years.

[Happily1986]

The point is we need to look out for the less fortunate. They are too busy being oppressed to stand up for themselves.

 

No one is questioning the importance or relevance of foreigners. It is the manner in which the policy is implemented.

 

And.. where is Lao Goh's children? I've been a member of his constituent for the past 28 years.

 

i vaguely remember his daughter is in London and his son is still here, a doctor. Anyway i opt to remain silent on GCT because i genuinely respect him. I remember his years in government as truly being benevolent.

[Iisterry]

i vaguely remember his daughter is in London and his son is still here, a doctor. Anyway i opt to remain silent on GCT because i genuinely respect him. I remember his years in government as truly being benevolent.

 

Your sentence infers that you have a bone to pick with his party though.

 

Anyway I have never seen Lao Goh in 28 years. I know he doesn't stay here.

[Happily1986]

Your sentence infers that you have a bone to pick with his party though.

 

Anyway I have never seen Lao Goh in 28 years. I know he doesn't stay here.

 

hmmm lets just say that if they give me an egg. i will scrutinise the egg to see whether there are bones in there. SM Goh stays at Second Avenue. You can actually see his residence from the main road i think.

[XALmoN]

once again, one shouldn't trumpet past glories,

 

if they're s--t now, let someone else take their place.

[Jeff49er]

During the war, the rich were able to escape to India. When the war was over they came back to reclaim their property. The rest had to endure the Occupation years.

 

In today's context, the FTs will be back in their own country faster than a blink of the eye. And will prob have to defend their safe passage out.

[Dpsk]

too late , team thunder. you wont be getting my vote for sure. after 3 years of abuse now come act pathetic. f$%^& off. i rather vote for a OPP monkey than you

 

AGREE. same sentiment here. very angry with what they have done!

[Happily1986]

once again, one shouldn't trumpet past glories,

 

if they're s--t now, let someone else take their place.

 

i second that. i see them as being politicians. people who have a livelihood too. Ordinary folks like you and me, assuming we aren't scions of some bigwig, what do you think will happen to us when we make a grave mistake at our workplace? If we are lucky, maybe a tick off or a LOW. However, in a situation when we result in some irreparable damage on our employers, i think we know in our heart that our days are numbered. This is mutually understood. I don't see why they should be given the right to label things as being merely honest mistakes and scoot away unscathed. If you make a mistake, you pay the price. This is the way the rules here have shaped up here and i don't see why they should be in any case, immune from this.

[XALmoN]

i second that. i see them as being politicians. people who have a livelihood too. Ordinary folks like you and me, assuming we aren't scions of some bigwig, what do you think will happen to us when we make a grave mistake at our workplace? If we are lucky, maybe a tick off or a LOW. However, in a situation when we result in some irreparable damage on our employers, i think we know in our heart that our days are numbered. This is mutually understood. I don't see why they should be given the right to label things as being merely honest mistakes and scoot away unscathed. If you make a mistake, you pay the price. This is the way the rules here have shaped up here and i don't see why they should be in any case, immune from this.

 

now lets see those 10years our senior disagree, and then tell us to deal with it.

 

yet, i would gladly come back and fight if our country is ever in need, i will pick up my m16/sar21 and fight if need be. Infantry + combat engineer, i will do all i can. But looking at the state of events now, i'm staying away till things improve. Why come and be marginalised when you can go somewhere else and with the "asians are hardworking" mindset, get a better job than what singapore offers.

 

oh yeah, and dont need ICT, fighting is one thing, but going back to smoke, talkcock, drink beer, dont waste my time.

Edited October 31, 2010 by XALmoN