Bougth this Pulse King for My Dad's Van

[Crazecow]

http://www.greenpower888.com/eng/1/qna/faq.html

 

Bought from autobacs one. Cause the batt dying already. Hoping that its due the lead sulphate stuffs on it and it can help revive the batt.

 

Just installed only and under a partial blind test (just told my dad its supposed to help revive batt, don't know if it can work), he says the van feel slightly more powerful and better idling speed.

 

I am surprised cause I myself have no idea that it can make the van feel more powerful, he also don't know. Looks like it may not be a snake oil product afterall.

[Thedream]

I doubt this "improvement" is due to the removal of sulphates, but more likely due to the higher voltage, which can be achieved by any voltage stabiliser. Actually stabilising at a higher voltage generates more sulphates

[Ishiwgao]

it reminds me of this http://www.fusionexcel.com/products_qc.html

 

well not the same.. but just the first thing that comes to mind haha.

[Crazecow]

it reminds me of this http://www.fusionexcel.com/products_qc.html

 

well not the same.. but just the first thing that comes to mind haha.

 

Lol.... I understand where you are coming from. But this pulse king thing works just like the nanopulse, except that its much cheaper. Purpose is to remove the lead sufplhate collected on the lead plates.

 

I just feel nano pulse is way overpriced. $160 for that thing is madness..... I don't believe it can make my battery last 2x longer.

[Kb27]

I doubt this "improvement" is due to the removal of sulphates, but more likely due to the higher voltage, which can be achieved by any voltage stabiliser. Actually stabilising at a higher voltage generates more sulphates

Voltage stabilizer is just a bunch of capacitors. Capacitors smoothen alternating voltage.

It does not give you "higher" voltage. It may read slightly higher on a "averaging" multimeter that's all due to the smoothing effect.

 

Pulsing desulphators works to remove sulphate crystal build-up on the lead plates of the battery.

How well it works depends on the individual design.

 

On the other hand, the smoothing action of VS actually nullifies the good effect of desulphators.

 

Don't be sold by VS for its good looks and flashing lights. It does nothing good.

I had 2 before and now both are taken off. The car functions better...if my "placebo" effect is factored in.

 

 

[Kb27]

Lol.... I understand where you are coming from. But this pulse king thing works just like the nanopulse, except that its much cheaper. Purpose is to remove the lead sufplhate collected on the lead plates.

 

I just feel nano pulse is way overpriced. $160 for that thing is madness..... I don't believe it can make my battery last 2x longer.

I don't think any desulphators will make your batt last 2x longer.

Depending on the individual design, some may be more effective than others.

 

Many desulphators would not work below certain voltage, but nanopulser works at a lower voltage than these.

Why? I dunno. Perhaps the nano design thinks it should, but others think it shouldn't continue to drain the batt.

 

Imo, a desulphator can only prevent a good batt from deteriorating at a much faster rate.

If it's used on an already badly sulphated battery, it might or might not make it worse.

Since it's actually taking current from the battery and making it "worse" at the same time, whilst trying to cure it.

Edited November 10, 2010 by Kb27

[Beehive3783]

http://www.greenpower888.com/eng/1/qna/faq.html

 

Bought from autobacs one. Cause the batt dying already. Hoping that its due the lead sulphate stuffs on it and it can help revive the batt.

 

Just installed only and under a partial blind test (just told my dad its supposed to help revive batt, don't know if it can work), he says the van feel slightly more powerful and better idling speed.

 

I am surprised cause I myself have no idea that it can make the van feel more powerful, he also don't know. Looks like it may not be a snake oil product afterall.

How much did you get it for? If it's not expensive, I might get one to try.

[Crazecow]

How much did you get it for? If it's not expensive, I might get one to try.

 

It cost $41. Not exactly cheap but 1/4 the price of nanopulse. Thats why I get it to try. If its like $100 I won't bother.

 

Cause the batt in my dad's van is just 1yr 10 mths old. Thus I feel that it should be able to last longer.

[Beehive3783]

It cost $41. Not exactly cheap but 1/4 the price of nanopulse. Thats why I get it to try. If its like $100 I won't bother.

 

Cause the batt in my dad's van is just 1yr 10 mths old. Thus I feel that it should be able to last longer.

i found another site other than the one you posted

 

http://www.f16.com.hk/products.php

 

Not sure which model you bought.

[Jamesc]

It cost $41. Not exactly cheap but 1/4 the price of nanopulse. Thats why I get it to try. If its like $100 I won't bother.

 

Cause the batt in my dad's van is just 1yr 10 mths old. Thus I feel that it should be able to last longer.

$41 is a really good buy. I paid $48 for mine.

 

http://www.peony888.com/VS/revitalizer.htm Battery Revitalizer (12V)

 

KIT Model: 001- BR- 0612 (Build and Tested) Improved Version.

 

A batt revitalizer is completely different to a VS which are a waste of money

and potential fire hazards.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Crazecow]

i found another site other than the one you posted

 

http://www.f16.com.hk/products.php

 

Not sure which model you bought.

 

The one I bought is 1102 which is meant for diesel vehicles only. Thats what prined on the label.

[Smhomie]

Lol.... I understand where you are coming from. But this pulse king thing works just like the nanopulse, except that its much cheaper. Purpose is to remove the lead sufplhate collected on the lead plates.

 

I just feel nano pulse is way overpriced. $160 for that thing is madness..... I don't believe it can make my battery last 2x longer.

 

I believe they belong to 2 very different category of products. Look at both website explanation, design scope and user profiles, you can tell the separation in both.

 

The weblink to hk site provided by another member states pulseking at HKD980.00 per unit. Thats S$163.00 after conversion, more expensive than Nanopulser!

 

Pulseking made in china sweatshop facility with simple qc procedure,nanopulser made in Japan by Panasonic.

 

Pulseking bought here has no warranty, nanopulser has 3 years local warranty.

 

Pulseking has a working temp of -10c to 60c, nanopulser has a working temp of -30c to 85c. Wider working temp range. Acid, high temp, water resistant as well.

 

Pulseking has a single working frequency, nanopulser has TWO working frequencies.

 

Pulseking works when engine is on, nanopulser works BOTH ways ie. car engine on/off.

 

Pulseking users feature old cars, nanopulser has all sorts of user vehicles including diplomatic vehicle locally.

 

There are some more differences in feature if you compare the two, I've stopped at 6 for now

 

Pulseking claims to add more power+save fuel+save battery to the vehicle. Which is the emphasis? Seems like a volley of benefits to disengage consumer logic thinking. Their explanations do not flow logically even to me (a car enthusiast by nature).

 

Enough of comments by me. I'm supportive of nanopulser since I've been using it on all my vehicles at work/play and they have served me well for the last 2 years. All my kakis who have used nanopulser has not complained to me or scolded me yet...

 

Of course there will always be perception divide when there is product divide. To each their own, I just want the best for my own ride which I value and will always recommend likewise to family and friends.

 

For me, I am concerned with product safety and quality when it comes to products used on my vehicles. Cars are expensive here and there is no excuse to stinge on peace of mind, especially when insurance/warranty claims arising from using items of 'unsound/poor quality' damaging your car can be voided...

 

Cheers

[Jamesc]

Batteries are really environmentally unfriendly to make so anyone trying to prolong the

 

use of their battery saves themselves money and also the environment.

 

I am just glad there are different cost options for different users.

[Crazecow]

I believe they belong to 2 very different category of products. Look at both website explanation, design scope and user profiles, you can tell the separation in both.

 

The weblink to hk site provided by another member states pulseking at HKD980.00 per unit. Thats S$163.00 after conversion, more expensive than Nanopulser!

 

Pulseking made in china sweatshop facility with simple qc procedure,nanopulser made in Japan by Panasonic.

 

Pulseking bought here has no warranty, nanopulser has 3 years local warranty.

 

Pulseking has a working temp of -10c to 60c, nanopulser has a working temp of -30c to 85c. Wider working temp range. Acid, high temp, water resistant as well.

 

Pulseking has a single working frequency, nanopulser has TWO working frequencies.

 

Pulseking works when engine is on, nanopulser works BOTH ways ie. car engine on/off.

 

Pulseking users feature old cars, nanopulser has all sorts of user vehicles including diplomatic vehicle locally.

 

There are some more differences in feature if you compare the two, I've stopped at 6 for now

 

Pulseking claims to add more power+save fuel+save battery to the vehicle. Which is the emphasis? Seems like a volley of benefits to disengage consumer logic thinking. Their explanations do not flow logically even to me (a car enthusiast by nature).

 

Enough of comments by me. I'm supportive of nanopulser since I've been using it on all my vehicles at work/play and they have served me well for the last 2 years. All my kakis who have used nanopulser has not complained to me or scolded me yet...

 

Of course there will always be perception divide when there is product divide. To each their own, I just want the best for my own ride which I value and will always recommend likewise to family and friends.

 

For me, I am concerned with product safety and quality when it comes to products used on my vehicles. Cars are expensive here and there is no excuse to stinge on peace of mind, especially when insurance/warranty claims arising from using items of 'unsound/poor quality' damaging your car can be voided...

 

Cheers

 

Well, as you have mentioned, to each his own. Thats why there are different products to cater for different budgets/purpose.

 

I belong to the caegory of people who will not spend $160 on nanopulse, regardless of how good it may be. But I will spend more on a better battery instead. I bought a Varta Silver Dynamic batt that cost me $250 and I feel its worth the money.

[Fcw75]

Not again!...Nanopulser salesman at work again.

[Thedream]

Voltage stabilizer is just a bunch of capacitors. Capacitors smoothen alternating voltage.

It does not give you "higher" voltage. It may read slightly higher on a "averaging" multimeter that's all due to the smoothing effect.

 

Pulsing desulphators works to remove sulphate crystal build-up on the lead plates of the battery.

How well it works depends on the individual design.

 

On the other hand, the smoothing action of VS actually nullifies the good effect of desulphators.

 

Don't be sold by VS for its good looks and flashing lights. It does nothing good.

I had 2 before and now both are taken off. The car functions better...if my "placebo" effect is factored in.

 

I was disagreeing that the benefits experienced by Crazecow (slightly more powerful & better idling speed) were a result of the removal of sulphates, because this takes time and Crazecow said that this was "just installed only." If "batt dying already" was because of sulphate build-up, it would certainly take quite some time to remove the sulphates, if possible in the first place.

 

Yes, in electronics class we learn about capacitors smoothing voltage, but they actually store energy and resist a drop in voltage, so they actually present a higher voltage than there would be without a voltage stabiliser.

[Hamtaroo]

the battery desulphariser circuits are available on internet,

you can built the circuit it costs less than 10-15 sgd, buy

components from sim lim tower

 

some reference

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desulfation

http://www.inthelight.co.nz/techo/desulphator.htm

 

can search on google battery desulfator circuits

 

[Crazecow]

the battery desulphariser circuits are available on internet,

you can built the circuit it costs less than 10-15 sgd, buy

components from sim lim tower

 

some reference

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desulfation

http://www.inthelight.co.nz/techo/desulphator.htm

 

can search on google battery desulfator circuits

 

Nice circuit diagram!! Too bad I didn't search for a dircuit diagram before getting the desulfator. Else I will certainly build one myself instead.