Karoon Turbocharged February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 i dont expect kindie teachers to speak queen's english... really no big deal. many times i pity these preschool teachers. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 i dont expect kindie teachers to speak queen's english... really no big deal. many times i pity these preschool teachers. Huh? If they don't "speak good english", how the heck are they going to teach your children properly? Or are you willing to correct all the bad habits they teach? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norzahari Neutral Newbie February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 small issue la .most importantly they take care of your child well correct?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 I think a more appropriate word to use will be "BRING". Fetch is when you go to a place and get something or someone. And yes, it does sound like a word for dogs and pets. So what?? Don't you know that in Singapore these days, especially among younger married couples, dogs and other pets are the new "children"? [laugh] Just take a look at newspapers, sunday times life section, quite often there will be interview with a young married couple, and the couple will invariably be shown posing for a "family" photo with their furry "kids". Hence in Singapore, "fetch" is becoming more and more acceptable!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 small issue la .most importantly they take care of your child well correct?? Right. Those who really have kids in childcare (and not just armchair critics), will agree that the most important job of the childcare is to ensure good care of the children, especially in teaching and instilling good habits concerning eating, napping, toilet training, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoon Turbocharged February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 Huh? If they don't "speak good english", how the heck are they going to teach your children properly? Or are you willing to correct all the bad habits they teach? if you look at the letter, first read is a pass. only if you really want to get picky you'll get errors which again is subjective. somemore this one is pcf kindergarten.... not montessori hor bottom of the rung. the pay also bottom of the rung, hence calibre of ppl is so so. but they still try to do a decent job. somemore they have a point. just because its a low cost childcare, doesn't mean parents can happy2 come and pick up as and when they wish. the teachers also want to go home on time . stay back got no OT. but that's beside the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 Huh? If they don't "speak good english", how the heck are they going to teach your children properly? Or are you willing to correct all the bad habits they teach? let us get something right here. what is the reason for language and letter writing?? is it to be able to speak in perfect no mistake writing or for communication. I suspect, the reason for spoken and writen language are primary for communication. Now. what is number 1 rule for communication. It is to understand and be understand. Does that letter serve that purpose?? yes. Then what is the concern about the grammer or vocab error?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryh 3rd Gear February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 Agree that he is trying to find fault. If the principal uses fetch, he complains that it is to bring dogs. If the P uses bring, he will complain that it is used for inanimate objects. From what I see, he is just scoring points from the pro-opposition camp and to make himself look like he is with the 'common folk'. Who knows what agenda he has? Mr Brown is trying to pick a bone in an egg lah.. if using fetch is wrong, then taking also not correct.. should be pick up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 if you look at the letter, first read is a pass. only if you really want to get picky you'll get errors which again is subjective. somemore this one is pcf kindergarten.... not montessori hor bottom of the rung. the pay also bottom of the rung, hence calibre of ppl is so so. but they still try to do a decent job. somemore they have a point. just because its a low cost childcare, doesn't mean parents can happy2 come and pick up as and when they wish. the teachers also want to go home on time . stay back got no OT. but that's beside the point. Not for me...I do expect teachers to use correct english, the only reason I am not constantly ranting is that its an uphill battle that I would exhaust myself on fighting. If the kids see "wrong" english right from the get go, it is so hard to teach them properly. I am constantly having to correct my kid on grammar, words and sentence construction that I KNOW she hasn't learnt from me. Words have meaning, if you start to pervert the meaning then understanding is lost. Fetch, as some kindly soul has posted does have a specific meaning - and not the way it is being used by the school. When the meaning is shifted this way, a little part of the language is lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altivo 3rd Gear February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 At least, phrase the letter properly mah. Be humble, and request parents/guardians to pick kids up on time......Then, give reasons like family bonding lah, this lah that lah, if late, please call up to inform centre lah (you know some people has no common sense; need specific instructions), etc, etc lah (in customers' perspectives rather than dumping staff grievances to customers). Am sure, these Atas organisation and people will know how to put it in their nice powderful england. [laugh] The principal speaks like their grandmaster.... talk down approach. Till the day their grandmaster learn how to be humble, it's unlikely the kakias in his organisation will do the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altivo 3rd Gear February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 Not for me...I do expect teachers to use correct english, the only reason I am not constantly ranting is that its an uphill battle that I would exhaust myself on fighting. If the kids see "wrong" english right from the get go, it is so hard to teach them properly. I am constantly having to correct my kid on grammar, words and sentence construction that I KNOW she hasn't learnt from me. Words have meaning, if you start to pervert the meaning then understanding is lost. Fetch, as some kindly soul has posted does have a specific meaning - and not the way it is being used by the school. When the meaning is shifted this way, a little part of the language is lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 let us get something right here. what is the reason for language and letter writing?? is it to be able to speak in perfect no mistake writing or for communication. I suspect, the reason for spoken and writen language are primary for communication. Now. what is number 1 rule for communication. It is to understand and be understand. Does that letter serve that purpose?? yes. Then what is the concern about the grammer or vocab error?? Precisely. If you use a word WRONGLY a part of communication is lost. It is incomplete communication. Words have meanings. To know the correct word, and use it in the correct circumstances ENHANCES understanding. To use the word "fetch" in this instance, although I understand (I should after 10 years here) does raise questions of exactly what the teacher means. It would not be hard to come up with a more accurate, less "open to interpretation" construction. If you show "please fetch you children on time" to someone from out of Singapore it will absolutely raise questions as to exactly what you mean. Just like the difference between take and bring - they are so often confused, but they do have different meanings - use the wrong one in the wrong place and you will get the wrong result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronleech 2nd Gear February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 I like the last part...SEE ME!!!! lol... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beehive3783 Turbocharged February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 So what?? Don't you know that in Singapore these days, especially among younger married couples, dogs and other pets are the new "children"? [laugh] Just take a look at newspapers, sunday times life section, quite often there will be interview with a young married couple, and the couple will invariably be shown posing for a "family" photo with their furry "kids". Hence in Singapore, "fetch" is becoming more and more acceptable!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altivo 3rd Gear February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 So what?? Don't you know that in Singapore these days, especially among younger married couples, dogs and other pets are the new "children"? [laugh] Just take a look at newspapers, sunday times life section, quite often there will be interview with a young married couple, and the couple will invariably be shown posing for a "family" photo with their furry "kids". Hence in Singapore, "fetch" is becoming more and more acceptable!!! you are so right. And the dog community does refer their pet dogs as furkids Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 Precisely. If you use a word WRONGLY a part of communication is lost. It is incomplete communication. Words have meanings. To know the correct word, and use it in the correct circumstances ENHANCES understanding. To use the word "fetch" in this instance, although I understand (I should after 10 years here) does raise questions of exactly what the teacher means. It would not be hard to come up with a more accurate, less "open to interpretation" construction. If you show "please fetch you children on time" to someone from out of Singapore it will absolutely raise questions as to exactly what you mean. Just like the difference between take and bring - they are so often confused, but they do have different meanings - use the wrong one in the wrong place and you will get the wrong result. the letter is addressing towards ppl who live in singapore. another thing, do you think that letter is hard to understand?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fictionaire 3rd Gear February 11, 2011 Share February 11, 2011 Well, the 'editor' himself, mr brown, is a grammar pedantic PRICK wannabe. His editing was flawed too. Fancy correcting ungrammatical sentences while he himself does not have a good command/sense of editorship. Fuking Prick! Sigh. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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