Persistent Lower Back Pain

[Nolicense]

On 3/11/2021 at 7:23 PM, Datsun366 said:

Sometimes lower back pain may be due to torn or injured  strands of tendons anchoring the trapezius to the posterior illium...or got forbid fracture minute or hairline at the anchoring region.

Dont go spine all the time, can be elsewhere injured.

Speaking of injured strands of tendons, is there a remedy? just rest and massage?

Also, would the pain from injured strands of tendon be differentiable from other back pains?

I have pain in my shins and wonder is it tendon, muscle or fracture. pain is felt when walking or running.  

Edited March 12, 2021 by Nolicense

[Windwaver]

1 hour ago, Kengheng450 said:

You can try CLM SG TIT TAR,you can google for it

Looks painful leh bro

[Nolicense]

On 3/11/2021 at 7:23 PM, Datsun366 said:

Sometimes lower back pain may be due to torn or injured  strands of tendons anchoring the trapezius to the posterior illium...or got forbid fracture minute or hairline at the anchoring region.

Dont go spine all the time, can be elsewhere injured.

Bro don't laugh react to my post leh. I hope you can give some advice.

I have been walking a lot to exercise. not sure if I should keep walking or stop for a while. I am interested to learn more. thanks

[Kklee]

13 hours ago, Nolicense said:

Speaking of injured strands of tendons, is there a remedy? just rest and massage?

Also, would the pain from injured strands of tendon be differentiable from other back pains?

I have pain in my shins and wonder is it tendon, muscle or fracture. pain is felt when walking or running.  

IMHO.
Does your feet have corns or calluses ? 

[Jamesc]

Does Pilates or Yoga help?

If not maybe page 42 and 53 of the Karma Sutra?

I only believe in 100% natural remedies

and I am willing to give anything a go

as long as its all natural. 

 

[Lala81]

On 3/11/2021 at 7:33 PM, Adrianli said:

I begin to suspect you are medically trained too. Not your first reply on medical opinions.

But trapezius don't touch the ilium bone... It's last anchored to your lower thoracic vertebrae. It usually causes thoracic back pain. not lower back pain.

 

[Adrianli]

31 minutes ago, Lala81 said:

But trapezius don't touch the ilium bone... It's last anchored to your lower thoracic vertebrae. It usually causes thoracic back pain. not lower back pain.

 

I not sure. I only know the superficial muscles. You are right, superficially, trapezius do not reach the illum. Not sure if there are any ligament or tendons then. He writes like he knows it or have came across it. I have no knowledge in this area. I scrap thru my A&P.

[Nolicense]

1 hour ago, Kklee said:

IMHO.
Does your feet have corns or calluses ? 

No corns or calluses.

jogging shoes are medium to firm cushion. i walk on pavement. no grass to walk on LOL

[Kklee]

1 hour ago, Nolicense said:

No corns or calluses.

jogging shoes are medium to firm cushion. i walk on pavement. no grass to walk on LOL

IMHO.
If no corns or calluses,  usually meant that the movement posture is correct.
The next thing to look into exactly where the discomfort, is it on the bone or muscle.
Bone I cannot comment.
Muscle could be due to nerves from the back which is interconnected. 
You can google on the TCM body chart for some information.

At times, the pain area may not be the problem area. 

[Datsun366]

Nolicense, Enjoy Life!

😘😁

Edited March 13, 2021 by Datsun366

[Datsun366]

1 hour ago, Lala81 said:

But trapezius don't touch the ilium bone... It's last anchored to your lower thoracic vertebrae. It usually causes thoracic back pain. not lower back pain.

 

Made you look, hah!

and thoracic pain can refer to mana lower back?

wait after Prof Radx and other guys such as Dean Vratenza come in and physio lecture.
 

let them pay money see in clinic la.

😁

[Nolicense]

25 minutes ago, Kklee said:

IMHO.
If no corns or calluses,  usually meant that the movement posture is correct.
The next thing to look into exactly where the discomfort, is it on the bone or muscle.
Bone I cannot comment.
Muscle could be due to nerves from the back which is interconnected. 
You can google on the TCM body chart for some information.

At times, the pain area may not be the problem area. 

I look at the body chart I faint.. dont understand sia.

[Lala81]

17 minutes ago, Datsun366 said:

Made you look, hah!

and thoracic pain can refer to mana lower back?

wait after Prof Radx and other guys such as Dean Vratenza come in and physio lecture.
 

let them pay money see in clinic la.

😁

Yes lower back pain can come from dysfunctional gluteals or neck/thoracic back issues. 

 

[Kklee]

7 minutes ago, Nolicense said:

I look at the body chart I faint.. dont understand sia.

Then nevermind.
Just know that if one specific area has pain,  it could be due to another corresponding area elsewhere.
 

[mersaylee]

1 hour ago, Nolicense said:

I look at the body chart I faint.. dont understand sia.

I see oredi also don't understand and faint...oh...im referring to the price chart at clinics 😁

[Adrianli]

3 hours ago, Nolicense said:

I look at the body chart I faint.. dont understand sia.

I also. So I use the app : https://www.visiblebody.com/anatomy-and-physiology-apps/human-anatomy-atlas

Its a paid app. Whenever I encounter a part of the muscle or bone I do not understand, I use the app and see.

[Windwaver]

On 3/13/2021 at 11:32 AM, Lala81 said:

But trapezius don't touch the ilium bone... It's last anchored to your lower thoracic vertebrae. It usually causes thoracic back pain. not lower back pain.

 

Yeah but pain in the thoracic region is also a big headache for most doctors since that part is very stable (compared to the rest of the spine) most of the time.

Since we're at it, doctors are very good with bones but when it comes to muscles/nerves they seem to be at a lost 

[Windwaver]

22 hours ago, Adrianli said:

I also. So I use the app : https://www.visiblebody.com/anatomy-and-physiology-apps/human-anatomy-atlas

Its a paid app. Whenever I encounter a part of the muscle or bone I do not understand, I use the app and see.

The app also can see soft tissue on chest?