Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 Lol. Of course I believe his advice. He has been a great help since I am new here. Thank for all the advice out there I believe you can find information from more than one source. You may be aware that many/most of us used to receive incorrect information from one source. Now we end up with so many chronic issues Actuall the age/mileage of a vehicle does not determine the vicousity of the engine oil required. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 any more oil left at tampines? i wanted to go yesterday but the damn carpark was packed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon5 5th Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 Last time for my lancer, I switched to W40 engine oil after my mileage had crossed 75k km. ya 30 oil quite noisy on lancer but good for rev. 40 most balanced. anyw i used before 20, 30 and 40. 20 was nightmare, my car lost response totally at expressway speeds n i had to change out after 1 week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon5 5th Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 For a warm climate country like Singapore, the 0w, 5w & 10w not much importance. For example looking at Mobil 1 0w30 vs 5w30 vs 10w30, their viscosity at 40deg.C are 62.9 cSt (0w30) vs 61.7 cSt (5w30) vs 63.2 cSt (10w30). I use 40 deg.C viscosity for comparison cos that should be the 'cold' engine temperature park outside during daytime? So looking at the viscosity, the 5w is thinner than 0w at local climate on a 'cold engine'. It only matter in winter, then 0w would be a better option over 5w and 10w. But looking at their viscosity at 100deg.C, it show 10.9 cSt for 0w30 vs 11 cSt for 5w30 vs 10.1 cSt for 10w30. So for the same engine, a 10w30 oil is thinner than 0w30 oil when hot. solid la bro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon5 5th Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 I believe you can find information from more than one source. You may be aware that many/most of us used to receive incorrect information from one source. Now we end up with so many chronic issues Actuall the age/mileage of a vehicle does not determine the vicousity of the engine oil required. got some effect. older engines, old gaskets n seals, if too thin the oil, easy to seep out n get burnt off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon5 5th Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 Hey Bro, Thanks! Really appreciate your advice the other time. You help me understand the viscocity etc. Now I only puzzle why different owner use different engine oil. and the different cap (e.g gold, green etc) *Out of curosity its jus like some like spc, some swear by shell. gold or green caps are jus diff formulations eg. shell 95 vs shell 98 vs vpower. diff pple have diff expectations, some r chiongers, some highway stars, some r city drivers so hence the diff preference for oils too. u wont go wrong to try this m1 oil. after this round, u can also try other brands. from there, u wil know what u like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 got some effect. older engines, old gaskets n seals, if too thin the oil, easy to seep out n get burnt off. I am puzzled: small island with 10-years COE, how old can our engines be? I am refering to the average private cars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon5 5th Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 I am puzzled: small island with 10-years COE, how old can our engines be? I am refering to the average private cars the engines wil b ok but not the wear n tear gaskets n seals. anyw lets not make this too difficult la...its jus engine oil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 For a warm climate country like Singapore, the 0w, 5w & 10w not much importance. For example looking at Mobil 1 0w30 vs 5w30 vs 10w30, their viscosity at 40deg.C are 62.9 cSt (0w30) vs 61.7 cSt (5w30) vs 63.2 cSt (10w30). I use 40 deg.C viscosity for comparison cos that should be the 'cold' engine temperature park outside during daytime? So looking at the viscosity, the 5w is thinner than 0w at local climate on a 'cold engine'. It only matter in winter, then 0w would be a better option over 5w and 10w. But looking at their viscosity at 100deg.C, it show 10.9 cSt for 0w30 vs 11 cSt for 5w30 vs 10.1 cSt for 10w30. So for the same engine, a 10w30 oil is thinner than 0w30 oil when hot. I did observed slight difference only when hypermiling, among 0W30, 5W30 and 10W30 (these are graduations of the oil viscousity for different temperature range) 0W30, 5W30, 10W30, are graduations with same performance when the engine is operating (I have yet to put my car engines to that limit, or seized engine from lubrication failure) I believe there is a upper and lower limit for each oil specification, whatever grade we want to look at. So if you found the literature slightly inconsistent, that could be it You are free to believe/apply whatever you believe to your engines, but I am not going that way I am not confused that a 10W 30 is thinner than a 0W 30 oil when the engine is hot. I mean a grade SAE 30 = SAE 30, so good luck to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 the engines wil b ok but not the wear n tear gaskets n seals. anyw lets not make this too difficult la...its jus engine oil. Do you found the gaskets and seals affected by the engine oil you used? Are you refering to racing engines or bread and butter cars? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 got some effect. older engines, old gaskets n seals, if too thin the oil, easy to seep out n get burnt off. So sorry, I overlooked some COE/vintage cars are really having such leakage problems. But the service life of the seals has a part to play for the leakages. Do not just blame the oil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon5 5th Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 So sorry, I overlooked some COE/vintage cars are really having such leakage problems. But the service life of the seals has a part to play for the leakages. Do not just blame the oil oh u finally got it no la im not blaming the oil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuan 6th Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 I am puzzled: small island with 10-years COE, how old can our engines be? I am refering to the average private cars It depends on how respective owners take care of their own rides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuan 6th Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 (edited) ya 30 oil quite noisy on lancer but good for rev. 40 most balanced. anyw i used before 20, 30 and 40. 20 was nightmare, my car lost response totally at expressway speeds n i had to change out after 1 week. I find 20 to be too thin an oil. I was with 30 and then 40 after that certain mileage. Edited March 5, 2012 by Yuan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 oh u finally got it no la im not blaming the oil Your cars: silver ghost/phamtom? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gz0707 4th Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 for me, its only a cost issue. i rem paying for 4L Shell Helix oil at $120 at AD. With this oil, I can save up to $80 per service. This is not a performance discussion for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 I find 20 to be too thin an oil though some folks in SLC tried before years back. I was with 30 and then 40 after that certain mileage. Too low viscousity not only noisy but can have starting difficulties when engine is hot (re-starting engine after visiting the restroom). I ever tried customised one. Do not try 15 or equivalent. Power loss after just 10k km. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon5 5th Gear March 5, 2012 Share March 5, 2012 Your cars: silver ghost/phamtom? mine is B&B lancer only...fully stock ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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