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[Latio2005A]

According to an article on TRE (http://www.tremeritus.com/2012/12/25/ncs-still-needs-to-support-the-software-for-tcs-what-does-aim-do/) AIM has engaged NCS to maintain the system.

 

In the same article, it is also claimed in the comments that AIM is trying to sell the system to new townships in China.

THIS part would make sense to me! If true, that would make the whole thing a LOT more logical and straightforward.

 

On the contrary, it brings out more stench!

If there is market value, then why sell for only $140k, which AIM would recoup in a year's time the investment?

[Perseus76]

According to an article on TRE (http://www.tremeritus.com/2012/12/25/ncs-still-needs-to-support-the-software-for-tcs-what-does-aim-do/) AIM has engaged NCS to maintain the system.

 

In the same article, it is also claimed in the comments that AIM is trying to sell the system to new townships in China.

THIS part would make sense to me! If true, that would make the whole thing a LOT more logical and straightforward.

 

in the first place, the qns that needs to be answered :

why sell to AIMS?

and why need to setup AIMS?

 

Selling to other countries? all this are parts and parcel in the process to make this Proper.

 

If u are the buyer....$2 company...with dunno how many employee and rental address.....would you even consider buying from someone whose portfolio that is so vague

[Cars08]

ok ok...so many comments over AIM "managing" it...Im a neutral...I will take over from AIM...call it MIA instead....happy? I give discount 50% of what AIM is charging for each township on the condition that AIM willing to let me buy it for 50% lesser... all conditions the same...I merely in-charge of marketing the system worldwide... Anyone who wishes to use the system can apply to do so but subject to higher being's approval.

[Darryn]

On the contrary, it brings out more stench!

If there is market value, then why sell for only $140k, which AIM would recoup in a year's time the investment?

 

If you stop looking for corruption, and take a very positive spin.

 

On the assumption that the tender was perfectly run, people were informed, conditions were set correctly - then if the tender price is $140k, then that's the market value and nothing more should be said.

 

Also on the assumption that the monthly fee includes updates and upgrades, then $785 a month is actually cheap.

 

Further, if the bosses of AIM weren't ex-PAP, would there still be so much noise?

 

There are issues that need to be clarified, but if I were to hear that there are serious efforts to market the system world-wide as a comprehensive management solution, it would go a long way towards easing any concerns I currently have.

[Ender]

According to an article on TRE (http://www.tremeritus.com/2012/12/25/ncs-still-needs-to-support-the-software-for-tcs-what-does-aim-do/) AIM has engaged NCS to maintain the system.

 

In the same article, it is also claimed in the comments that AIM is trying to sell the system to new townships in China.

THIS part would make sense to me! If true, that would make the whole thing a LOT more logical and straightforward.

 

From the article, What's the rational of the go around and in the end it's still NCS maintaining the system? TC who initially engage NCS to develop the system could not use them the run the software? but instead the rather pay AIMS a $798 a month who in the end use NCS. In the long run, TC is paying more than $140,000 the amoung they gain from selling it to AIMs. Even if AIm was to manage to sell to China market, how will TC benefits since they have lost all rights to the software? No benefit, then no point to use this as an argument.

 

So, the sequence of events is as follows:

 

TCs engaged NCS to develop the software system

TCs sold software system to AIM through an open tender with AIM as sole bidder

AIM leased the software system back to TCs for $785 per TC per month

AIM engaged NCS to manage and support the software system on its behalf for TCs

Edited December 26, 2012 by Ender

[Darryn]

From the article, What's the rational of the go around and in the end it's still NCS maintaining the system? TC who initially engage NCS to develop the system could not use them the run the software? but instead the rather pay AIMS a $798 a month who in the end use NCS. In the long run, TC is paying more than $140,000 the amoung they gain from selling it to AIMs. Even if AIm was to manage to sell to China market, how will TC benefits? No benefit, then no point to use this sa a argument.

 

So, the sequence of events is as follows:

 

TCs engaged NCS to develop the software system

TCs sold software system to AIM through an open tender with AIM as sole bidder

AIM leased the software system back to TCs for $785 per TC per month

AIM engaged NCS to manage and support the software system on its behalf for TCs

 

At a guess -

 

I would say that Neither NCS nor the Town Council are in a position to sell this world wide. That would be the crux of the issue.

 

Honestly speaking,

 

if the maintenance contract is comprehensive, it is probably about the same as what would be paid with or without AIM.

 

But by having AIM in the picture they can realise an income of $140k now (where if they don't sell they don't get anything).

 

So what was lost?

 

(Again taking aside the issue of the termination to AHTC)

[Simonsoh]

This is the big problem of a one party rule that has been in place for years. By right, an organisation like the CPIB should be independent and not reporting to the ruling party. But its located in the PMO? How would CPIB ever investigate their own boss even if there is an obvious wrong doing going on?

 

confirm under PMO and reports directly to PM leh...

 

nah... i lift these from their website.....

 

 

About Us | Organisation Structure

 

 

Organisation Structure

 

The CPIB is under the charge of the Prime Minister's Office.

 

Mission, Vision and Values

 

 

Mission Statement

To Combat Corruption through Swift and Sure, Firm but Fair Action.

 

 

Vision Statement

A leading anti-corruption agency that upholds integrity and good governance towards achieving a corruption-free nation.

 

so how? you want PM to direct/ supervise a investigation into a party that he is heading? how to take statement?

[Count-Bracula]

also if any mangoes were involved

 

No need for BIG ones, sweet can already.

[Mustank]

From the article, What's the rational of the go around and in the end it's still NCS maintaining the system? TC who initially engage NCS to develop the system could not use them the run the software? but instead the rather pay AIMS a $798 a month who in the end use NCS. In the long run, TC is paying more than $140,000 the amoung they gain from selling it to AIMs. Even if AIm was to manage to sell to China market, how will TC benefits since they have lost all rights to the software? No benefit, then no point to use this as an argument.

 

So, the sequence of events is as follows:

 

TCs engaged NCS to develop the software system

TCs sold software system to AIM through an open tender with AIM as sole bidder

AIM leased the software system back to TCs for $785 per TC per month

AIM engaged NCS to manage and support the software system on its behalf for TCs

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anyone knows how much TCs paid NCS to develop the software? <=> $140K?

[Mustank]

No need for BIG ones, sweet can already.

 

like this?

 

[Oblong]

If the act is sincere, the reasons will be convincing.

 

By staying mum, and plotting way ahead the decision trees, the silence is disturbing.

In all rescue operation or crisis management, there is a golden time period. In this case, missing it will be losing the moral high ground.

 

Or is it all along, a slippery slope?

 

 

[Simonsoh]

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anyone knows how much TCs paid NCS to develop the software? <=> $140K?

 

i am more curious how much TCs paid NCS to maintain the software.... AIM sub-con the maintaining to NCS cannot be at a loss right? so can I infer if TCs were to directly allow NCS to maintain the software, it would be lower than $700+? so what value-added service did AIM provide for the TCs, on top of what NCS would be providing if they serve TCs directly?

[Mustank]

If the act is sincere, the reasons will be convincing.

 

By staying mum, and plotting way ahead the decision trees, the silence is disturbing.

In all rescue operation or crisis management, there is a golden time period. In this case, missing it will be losing the moral high ground.

 

Or is it all along, a slippery slope?

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nowadays who dare to confidently come out say boh dai je one? big shot say the bicycle one is ok, according to law, also tio snook by his own people. nowadays better conduct 100% self audit first before coming out to announce boh dai jee one

[Mustank]

i am more curious how much TCs paid NCS to maintain the software.... AIM sub-con the maintaining to NCS cannot be at a loss right? so can I infer if TCs were to directly allow NCS to maintain the software, it would be lower than $700+? so what value-added service did AIM provide for the TCs, on top of what NCS would be providing if they serve TCs directly?

 

 

[Ender]

At a guess -

 

I would say that Neither NCS nor the Town Council are in a position to sell this world wide. That would be the crux of the issue.

 

Honestly speaking,

 

if the maintenance contract is comprehensive, it is probably about the same as what would be paid with or without AIM.

 

But by having AIM in the picture they can realise an income of $140k now (where if they don't sell they don't get anything).

 

So what was lost?

 

(Again taking aside the issue of the termination to AHTC)

Don't understand the underline. you mean NCS will still charge about $798 to TC directly? While they charge lesser for AIMS so as to allow AIMs to profit from the $798 they charge to TC?

[Tarzan666]

When was AIM incorporated?

 

Maybe they set up the coy juz to do this TC biz...

 

read somewhere they only got 3 staff..which is the directors..

no director fees..but salary?

[Mustank]

When was AIM incorporated?

 

Maybe they set up the coy juz to do this TC biz...

 

read somewhere they only got 3 staff..which is the directors..

no director fees..but salary?

 

 

ehhhh....if maintenance cost to the gongsee is exactly the same amount of marnie which the TCs need to pay NCS for maintenance anyway, then TCs got win ($140K) no lose leh

 

 

[Maxus-MIFA9]

In Yahoo : PAP town councils defend computer systems deal

By Jeanette Tan | Yahoo! Newsroom

Edited December 26, 2012 by Picnic06