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The exhaust emission from a diesel engine is a 1000 times more harmful than cigarette smoke. Clean diesel or clean burn diesel is a pipe dream because it is going to cost more than gasoline!

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haha the entire Youtube account has been removed.

 

Last night I watched the video till I sian.

 

Basically it talks about Particulate Matter (PM) and other stuff which is not mentioned in the formation of diesel engine exhaust gas.

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I think their concern is with the older Euro4 and to some extent Euro5 still running around.

They can run indefinitely ... with not COE there.

Check out the details about Euro6 emission effective from Jan2015.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards

Petrol engines are not angels either.

 

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VW/Audi group facing a potential maximum $18b (yes! billion!) fine on cheating on US EPA tests for their diesel cars [knife]:XD:

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/09/18/epa-accuses-volkswagen-audi-evading-emission-laws/72400018/

 

 

 

EPA accuses Volkswagen, Audi of evading emission laws

The German automaker adopted a "defeat device" to trick regulators, the EPA said.

 

The Environmental Protection Agency on Friday accused Volkswagen of installing software on 482,000 diesel cars in the U.S. to evade federal emission regulations, potentially exposing people to harmful pollutants.

The German automaker adopted what the EPA called a "defeat device" to trick U.S. regulators into believing that its cars met Clean Air Act standards, the federal agency said in a statement.

The agency said the diesel cars that violated federal standard were the 2009-14 Volkswagen Jetta, Beetle and Golf, the 2014-15 Volkswagen Passat, and the 2009-15 Audi A3.

Those cars emitted nitrogen oxides, which can exacerbate respiratory conditions such as asthma, at up to 40 times the standard level, the EPA said.

Volkswagen admitted to investigators that it had installed the defeat device, the EPA said.

The automaker said in a statement that it's cooperating with investigators but won't comment further.

Volkswagen, whose brands include the luxury Audi lineup, may face fines or other penalties, the EPA said. The maximum Clean Air Act violation is $37,500 per vehicle, meaning Volkswagen's fine could technically be as high as $18 billion.

What's more, the scandal could expose Volkswagen to lawsuits and penalties for marketing its cars under the "Clean Diesel" moniker. An hour after the EPA announcement, the automaker's website still contained the "Clean Diesel" branding.

About 20% of Volkswagen's vehicle sales are diesel engines, AutoPacific analyst Dave Sullivan said.

"It totally goes against all of the marketing they have had of a clean diesel," Sullivan said in an interview. "That’s one of the biggest selling points for Volkswagen."

The cars are still safe to drive, the EPA said, and owners do not need to take immediate action. But agency officials said they will require Volkswagen to fix the cars for free, indicating that a recall is likely.

"We intend to hold Volkswagen responsible," Cynthia Giles, assistant administrator for EPA's Office of Enforcement and Compliance Assurance, told reporters in a conference call.

The state of California also launched an investigation into the matter.

"VW was concealing the facts from the EPA, the state of California and from consumers. We expected better from VW," Giles said. "We thought it was important to inform the public right away of these violations."

EPA regulators said that Volkswagen adopted a "sophisticated" algorithm that turned on vehicles' full emissions controls when it detected they were being tested for emissions performance.

EPA and California regulators discovered the device after researchers at West Virginia University and the International Council on Clean Transportation "raised questions about emissions levels" in Volkswagen cars, the federal agency said.

Giles declined to say whether the EPA has made a criminal referral because of its findings. She said the investigation is ongoing and declined to say whether top executives knew about the device when it was installed.

"I’m surprised that it took this long for somebody to find this out, but it was actually a very clever piece of software written to keep it hidden," AutoPacific's Dave Sullivan said.

 

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Makes you wonder if the others such as BMW, Mercedes and Volvo etc are doing it too.

 

They sell truckloads of diesel cars in Europe.

 

Getting some sort of backlash now.

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Supersonic

Diesel cars might have a hope in future.

 

Bosch claims a 'breakthrough' that could save diesel engines

http://www.autonews.com/article/20180425/OEM06/180429878/bosch-diesel-breakthrough

 

FRANKFURT -- Robert Bosch GmbH said its engineers have developed a new diesel-exhaust system that cuts emissions far below legal limits taking effect in 2020 and can help automakers avoid potential driving bans in Europe that threaten to doom the engine technology.

“This breakthrough offers the opportunity to shift the heated debate over diesel into new territory and, hopefully, bring it to a close," Bosch CEO Volkmar Denner said Wednesday at a press conference outside Stuttgart.

The German engineering giant, the biggest supplier of diesel-engine technology to global automakers from Volkswagen AG to General Motors to Fiat Chrysler, is stepping up the fight against eroding market share sparked by VW’s 2015 emissions-cheating scandal. While tens of thousands of jobs hinge on the technology, customers are increasingly opting for gasoline engines as cities like Paris and London consider imposing driving bans to improve air quality.

Automakers have relied on diesel to help the industry meet limits on CO2 emissions, a contributor to global warming. But while it emits less CO2 than gasoline-fueled engines, the technology also generates nitrogen oxides that help create harmful smog, a problem most acute in big cities.

Thermal management

Bosch’s new process optimizes thermal management of exhaust temperatures, slashing nitrogen oxide emissions to one-tenth of the legally permitted limit, and doesn’t require new hardware, Denner said. The system keeps emissions stable even at cold temperatures, he said.

“With this new exhaust technology, blanket driving bans in the centers of the world’s major cities will no longer be an issue. Why? Because we now have the technology to resolve the problem of nitrogen oxides in road traffic," Denner said.

Calling for transparency

Bosch’s role as leading global supplier has come under scrutiny as German prosecutors investigate potentially illegal diesel-engine technology used by automakers to pass emission tests.

Denner reiterated Bosch fully cooperates with the relevant authorities. He called for more transparency in emission tests for cars with combustion engines as well as electric vehicles to allow a realistic view of the exact impact on the environment and air quality.

He said the company is prohibiting technology that recognizes test cycles and its products aren’t allowed to be optimized for test situations any more. Regulators have stepped up efforts to narrow the gap between official emission labels based on lab tests and real driving emissions.

 

http://www.bosch-presse.de/pressportal/de/en/growth-earnings-environmental-protection-in-its-quest-to-make-mobility-as-emissions-free-as-possible-bosch-has-achieved-a-breakthrough-156224.html

Presentation by Dr. Volkmar Denner,

chairman of the board of management of Robert Bosch GmbH

and Prof. Stefan Asenkerschbaumer,

deputy chairman of the board of management,

at the annual press conference on April 25, 2018

 

Ladies and gentlemen,
we deliberately chose not to begin this annual press conference with the traditional presentation of our financial position. On behalf of the board of management, I would like to thank you for joining us today. Instead, we’ve started with our research, which nicely illustrates what forms the bedrock of our business. I’m talking about technology – the breadth and depth of our expertise that makes our commercial success possible. Thank you, Mr. Jadidi, for providing a brief insight into our work on artificial intelligence. Even this glimpse should have convinced you that the gulf between our present and future business areas is not as wide as you might have thought. In fact, the opposite is true: at Bosch, advances in artificial intelligence mean advances for the combustion engine, too. And a major theme of this press conference will be precisely how we can decisively improve air quality with both state-of-the-art combustion engines and electrical powertrains. For us, clean air in our cities, protecting the environment, and combating climate change are not distant, abstract goals, but something our engineers work hard on every single day. A company such as Bosch, with its exceptional technological prowess, must do everything in its power to ensure the world and our cities remain good places to live.

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