titaniclexus 3rd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 Hi Epsilon, Still betta but not VFM ?? As bro mentioned, braking performance is 70/30 or 60/40 front/rear depending on car mfgr design. Cheers, Richard Thanks Richard for helping and sharing... Ytd i am trying to tell u is i have sent the XT rims "photo" via messenger to them, not drop by to shop.... Even though they said can clear the RLogic big 4 330mm 4 pot for front and front n rear SSBH, but whether really can clear or not, I think have to drop by to test/install then will know.... If doing this upgrade, I believe should be able to serve the braking performance like 70/30 or 60/40 bah, since the rear is leaving only SSBH upgrading not BBK.. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titaniclexus 3rd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 (edited) https://ebcbrakes.com/Assets/ecatalogues/2016-Intl-Auto-Catalogue/2016-intl-auto-catalogue.html#p=892 Green stuff: DP21xxx Red Stuff: DP31xxx Yellow Stuff: DP41xxx Thanks KC for sharing this useful information. Reference to the FXT bro who bought his EBC yellow stuff pad set model below: Front - EBC Yellow DP41583R Rear - EBC Yellow DP41758R He has selected the Forester 2.0 Turbo 2014- (240BHP) for his front which is EBC yellow DP41583R (disc dimension 316mm) , but for the rear, there is no set number for Turbo 2014-, what is see from the guide, he has selected the BRZ 2.0 - DP41758R (disc dimension 290mm)? My guess is for FNA, we have to look at 2.0 2013- (150BHP), but there are two options for front DP41884R (disc dimension 294mm) and DP41583R (disc dimension 316mm). Understand that the disc dimension FNA should be smaller than FXT, so it shld be go for front DP41884R, but for rear, no options again? I have combined the charts for easy references here.... Edited June 22, 2018 by titaniclexus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zpliu 3rd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 (edited) I don't really trust MI CS.... what i understand that Forester for FXT is SJG and FNA is SJ5 when I am checking the parts compatible... even sometime the parts for SJG also compatible to SJ5, like Cusco front tower bar.... For FNA, I think just choose the N/A (non-turbo) for the STI pink spring, quite sure it is fit, cos got bros already installed which the model sure after 02/2017.... this is my nxt upgrade which was added in my wish list... is just a matter of time to go.... https://www.japanparts.com/parts/detail/43739 The part numbers is what you pointed to in the japanparts website. Yes some parts arw interchangeable as the chassis is more or less the same. But I'm surprised that the front tower bar can fit as the STI tower bar is different for both models im guessing due to the engine mounting? And yes I don't quite trust them so Im thinking of checking with Subaru Japan or STI directly. But can't seem to find contact details for STI, and can't read the Subaru Japan website lol Edited June 22, 2018 by Zpliu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titaniclexus 3rd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 (edited) The part numbers is what you pointed to in the japanparts website. Yes some parts arw interchangeable as the chassis is more or less the same. But I'm surprised that the front tower bar can fit as the STI tower bar is different for both models im guessing due to the engine mounting? And yes I don't quite trust them so Im thinking of checking with Subaru Japan or STI directly. But can't seem to find contact details for STI, and can't read the Subaru Japan website lol Let me share one interesting finding recently when i am helping my frd (FNA owner) who interested to buy a used STI tower bar from a FXT owner..... When you go to japan parts here: https://www.japanparts.com/parts/detail/43253 There is a options you can choose for Turbo (FXT) or N/A (FNA) for the STI tower bar.... so you may believe that the parts or chassis is different right? So I did a check to add both options in the cart..... then please see the part number for both model.... Edited June 22, 2018 by titaniclexus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zpliu 3rd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 Let me share one interesting finding recently when i am helping my frd (FNA owner) who interested to buy a used STI tower bar from a FXT owner..... When you go to japan parts here: https://www.japanparts.com/parts/detail/43253 There is a options you can choose for Turbo (FXT) or N/A (FNA) for the STI tower bar.... so you may believe that the parts or chassis is different right? So I did a check to add both options in the cart..... then please see the part number for both model.... Not too sure about that though haha. But that part number is their own part number not the Subaru part number. Perhaps really need to put both side by side to see if any difference hahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busytiger 1st Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 Hi Busytiger, 1. Since MI and even Kenny had looked into this issue, I can only recommend trying the sti front flexible stiffener since it is strangely on right side only due to presence of the exhaust I think which led to me selling off mine since not noticable misalignment (kenny's test showed only 0.4% max when I did my alignment after installation of the magic collars). Not cheap and experimental ... https://www.sti.jp/en/parts/forester_sj/chassis/ST20118SF000/ 2. Anti roll ARB is same as anti sway per usual setup of most cars aka stabilising bars. Sure, upgrade your front ARB without front strut but think betta to upgrade also stock already installed rear ARB first or get complete front+rear cusco ARB ... front strut to some is a bit redundant due to already stiff and heavy front of our fxt and rear ARB more important unlike front with minimal roll and front steering. In summary, rear arb-> front arb->front strut->rear strut or just get sti pink spring 1st to see if your are happy with stock front/rear ARB without front strut ... think forester ts only added primarily the single front sti stiffener, pair of rear stiffener, flexible subframe, sti lowered suspension etc. but think no change to the ARBs for a reason. https://www.citysubaru.com.au/blog/subaru-forester/an-advance-review-of-the-new-subaru-forester-ts/ Cheers. Richard Thanks Richard for quick response. Let me settle my wheel alignment first before consulting you on the Front Strut and ARB. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceInALifeTime 2nd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 Thanks KC for sharing this useful information. Reference to the FXT bro who bought his EBC yellow stuff pad set model below: Front - EBC Yellow DP41583R Rear - EBC Yellow DP41758R He has selected the Forester 2.0 Turbo 2014- (240BHP) for his front which is EBC yellow DP41583R (disc dimension 316mm) , but for the rear, there is no set number for Turbo 2014-, what is see from the guide, he has selected the BRZ 2.0 - DP41758R (disc dimension 290mm)? My guess is for FNA, we have to look at 2.0 2013- (150BHP), but there are two options for front DP41884R (disc dimension 294mm) and DP41583R (disc dimension 316mm). Understand that the disc dimension FNA should be smaller than FXT, so it shld be go for front DP41884R, but for rear, no options again? I have combined the charts for easy references here.... Yellow Stuff rear pad for Forester should be DP 41584R same as XT and Impreza 2.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceInALifeTime 2nd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 I enquired on the pink springs for FNA with MI. The customer servive executive mentioned that the part no. given (ST20330SF010 and ST20380SF010)is only applicable for the vehicle year model 11/2012 TO 02/2017. Therefore not for the newer cars. Not too sure how accurate the customer service is. Any idea where else we can contact? Can't seem to find STI contact on their website Following link will provide you the part numbers. https://www.sti.jp/en/parts/forester_sj/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zpliu 3rd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 Following link will provide you the part numbers. https://www.sti.jp/en/parts/forester_sj/ Yes. I gotten the correct part number. See the exact email i got------------------- Thank you for your email. With references to your vehicle no. SLX****, your vehicle is year model 02/2018. Therefore the STI coil springs requested is not applicable for your vehicle model. The part no. given is only applicable for the vehicle year model 11/2012 TO 02/2017. -------------------------- That got me really intrigued as well. Cuz i didnt know there were any major change to the Forester...especially to the suspension Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceInALifeTime 2nd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 (edited) Yes. I gotten the correct part number. See the exact email i got ------------------- Thank you for your email. With references to your vehicle no. SLX****, your vehicle is year model 02/2018. Therefore the STI coil springs requested is not applicable for your vehicle model. The part no. given is only applicable for the vehicle year model 11/2012 TO 02/2017. -------------------------- That got me really intrigued as well. Cuz i didnt know there were any major change to the Forester...especially to the suspension I guessed that they just just quoted based on data that they have on-hand. In a way, it is good too. Rather than to simply say yes or able or "can" to everything and eventually unable or can't. By the way, it seems that some accessories are done by contractor and not MI. Accessories pricing.pdf Edited June 22, 2018 by OnceInALifeTime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zpliu 3rd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 (edited) I guessed that they just just quoted based on data that they have on-hand. In a way, it is good too. Rather than to simply say yes or able or "can" to everything and eventually unable or can't. By the way, it seems that some accessories are done by contractor and not MI. That is true. Everything say yes and end up cannot is even worst. But sometimes can't quite trust them hahaha. Many situation where they have gave different information to different ppl lol including telling me our tyres are directional Edited June 22, 2018 by Zpliu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceInALifeTime 2nd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 That is true. Everything say yes and end up cannot is even worst. But sometimes can't quite trust them hahaha. Many situation where they have gave different information to different ppl lol including telling me our tyres are directional Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_crl032 6th Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 That is true. Everything say yes and end up cannot is even worst. But sometimes can't quite trust them hahaha. Many situation where they have gave different information to different ppl lol including telling me our tyres are directional Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zpliu 3rd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 (edited) Hi Zpliu, Pink Spring part nos. between FXT and FNA ?? Below for your reference. There is also info on version A-D for our SJ series but release date are based on Japan and not our MI Singapore. Hope this helps. Cheers, Richard Coil spring front (for turbo) Item Number: ST20330SF000 Front x 2 Item No: ST20380SF000 For Rear x 2 In order to match with standard genuine damper attached, repeat running test and set specifications. We do not damage the ride comfort, low center of gravity, boil down the setting to improve steering stability, finishing. Together with the roll reduction effect of car height down about 15 mm compared to the standard car, the Forrester's silhouette will be tightened more sporty. * Please note that two front and rear cars are required for each car. * Coil springs are for adaptive models only. Since the front and rear balance will deteriorate if the weight of the car is different, it can not be fitted to the non-adaptive model. â» It is a setting that is about 15mm lower than the standard car height (when empty), but the vehicle height change may fluctuate due to the installation condition of the OP , individual differences between the car body and parts. Adaptive car sign: A November 2012 - October 2013 Adaptive model code: B November 2013 - October 2014 Adaptive model code: C November 2014 - October 2015 Adaptive car sign: D November 2015 ~ For possible installable grades, please check from here ã Item number: ST20330SF010 for front x 2 Item No .: ST20380SF010 for rear 2 x In order to match with standard genuine damper attached, repeat running test and set specifications. We do not damage the ride comfort, low center of gravity, boil down the setting to improve steering stability, finishing. Together with the roll reduction effect of car height down about 15 mm compared to the standard car, the Forrester's silhouette will be tightened more sporty. * Please note that two front and rear cars are required for each car. * Coil springs are for adaptive models only. * For standard front struts and rear shock absorbers. * Since the front and rear balance worsens when the vehicle weight is different, it can not be fitted to a non-applicable model. â» It is a setting that is about 15mm lower than the standard car height (when empty), but the vehicle height change may fluctuate due to the installation condition of the OP , individual differences between the car body and parts. Adaptive car sign: A November 2012 - October 2013 Adaptive model code: B November 2013 - October 2014 Adaptive model code: C November 2014 - October 2015 Adaptive car sign: D November 2015 ~ For possible installable grades, please check from here Hi Richard yup. I got the part number correct. What I'm saying is that MI customer service executive told me that it is not for my car or rather the newer cars. "The part no. given is only applicable for the vehicle year model 11/2012 TO 02/2017." "your vehicle is year model 02/2018." Edited June 22, 2018 by Zpliu 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titaniclexus 3rd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 (edited) Hi Richard yup. I got the part number correct. What I'm saying is that MI customer service executive told me that it is not for my car. "The part no. given is only applicable for the vehicle year model 11/2012 TO 02/2017." "your vehicle is year model 02/2018." Bro, like i said, don't trust MI, my frd FNA done the installation STI pink spring, his car sure after 02/2017...... he told me must install for FNA, very comfort ride.... I have checked the same with MI sometime back in Apr'18 early this year, see the reply from MI CS below; ++++++++++ The price quoted below is exclusive of labour price and subjected to 7% GST. STI Flexible Tower Bar/ST20502MF002-$500.00 (Stock is available) STI ARB bar front and rear (Only applicable for the rear)/ 20464VA000/R stab bar 20mm-$162.00 & 20464VA000/R stab bar bush-$7.20X2PCS-$14.40 (Stock is available) Cusco Strut Tower Bar (We don't keep this after market product) STI Spring (Not applicable for SJ5-NON TURBO) ++++++++++ They said not applicable for FNA..... lolzz Anyway, this part in on my wish list which i am going to get before next year.... btw my car is 12/2017..... Edited June 22, 2018 by titaniclexus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zpliu 3rd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 (edited) Bro, like i said, don't trust MI, my frd FNA done the installation STI pink spring, his car sure after 02/2017...... he told me must install for FNA, very comfort ride.... I have checked the same with MI sometime back in Apr'18 early this year, see the reply from MI CS below; ++++++++++ The price quoted below is exclusive of labour price and subjected to 7% GST. STI Flexible Tower Bar/ST20502MF002-$500.00 (Stock is available) STI ARB bar front and rear (Only applicable for the rear)/ 20464VA000/R stab bar 20mm-$162.00 & 20464VA000/R stab bar bush-$7.20X2PCS-$14.40 (Stock is available) Cusco Strut Tower Bar (We don't keep this after market product) STI Spring (Not applicable for SJ5-NON TURBO) ++++++++++ They said not applicable for FNA..... lolzz Anyway, this part in on my wish list which i am going to get before next year.... btw my car is 12/2017..... I don't really trust them but i don't wanna push it too. Yes a lot of ppl say mod, don't scared, scared don't mod. But I'm not to that extreme. Part of the reasons why I'm sticking to Subaru/STI mods is because if there are any warranty claims, at least they are compatible parts by Subaru themselves and i might have a stronger case if they want to void the warranty. Edited June 22, 2018 by Zpliu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titaniclexus 3rd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 (edited) I don't really trust them but i don't wanna push it too. Yes a lot of ppl say mod, don't scared, scared don't mod. But I'm not to that extreme. Part of the reasons why I'm sticking to Subaru/STI mods is because if there are any warranty claims, at least they are compatible parts by Subaru themselves and i might have a stronger case if they want to void the warranty. Yes, every modification not done by MI, they can void your warranty even if sti pink spring. My frd done the sti pink spring and went for his 10k free servicing, MI put a remark on sti pink spring in the report, so it can be void tat part of warranty if anything happen. Similarly if you change the stock rims 17'' to 18'', MI will do the same remark in the report, so I am expecting this on my next 10k free servicing liao... Edited June 22, 2018 by titaniclexus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titaniclexus 3rd Gear June 22, 2018 Share June 22, 2018 Yellow Stuff rear pad for Forester should be DP 41584R same as XT and Impreza 2.0 Which mean FNA should go for: Front - EBC Yellow DP41884R Rear - EBC Yellow DP41758R hmm.... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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