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For someone who doesn't know anything about coding but would like to figure out if he is talented in it, how should go about it?

 

There's no way to find out how talented a person is in coding. There must first be an interest in everything to do with software, computers and how they work. Then perhaps start with something simple like making web pages and looking at the HTML tags. If there is an interest to find out what each and every tag do, then move on to JavaScript, CSS, PHP, etc...

 

I know people whose minds wonder off when looking at codes. If he/she is this type of person, please do not continue. Will be a waste of time and money.

 

Coding requires an immense amount of time and concentration. Debugging an error can take anywhere from a few minutes to days.

 

Lastly, programmers are not that highly paid compared with many other professionals.

now you use Mouth power only rite kekeke  :secret-laugh:

 

Now use eye power [sly]

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There's no way to find out how talented a person is in coding. There must first be an interest in everything to do with software, computers and how they work. Then perhaps start with something simple like making web pages and looking at the HTML tags. If there is an interest to find out what each and every tag do, then move on to JavaScript, CSS, PHP, etc...

 

I know people whose minds wonder off when looking at codes. If he/she is this type of person, please do not continue. Will be a waste of time and money.

 

Coding requires an immense amount of time and concentration. Debugging an error can take anywhere from a few minutes to days.

 

Lastly, programmers are not that highly paid compared with many other professionals.

 

Now use eye power [sly]

 

And earn big money... :a-happy:

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Interesting read.

Typically speaking those that have been taught programming in their education days. Most will find that the programming languages learnt would have been outdated by the time they joined society.

 

Good observation. As an enthusiast, I was an autodidact in various languages. BASIC (of course), Pascal, C, Assembly (6502 for Apple and later 8088/80x86 for IBM), Logo, and even PILOT (totally useless language).

 

Of those, C is pretty much the only one that's flourished. If you know C, it's easy to pick up on the variants, and even learning Java is no problem.

 

I know a lot of computer science chappies in JC were learning Pascal. I wonder whether any of them still use Pascal now. As far as I know, it's pretty much a useless language in professional development.

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now you use Mouth power only rite kekeke  :secret-laugh:

 

those programming not fun ....... try AI programming  :XD:

 

Don't scare the fella lah.  Piangz.  Might as well as him to code a monte carlo neural network simulation :XD:

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The_Bear

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Same here and in truth, you become good by the number of hours you "invest" in it.  Then again, my programming is limited to playing with linear algebra.  [laugh]

 

I can set up my own Ipad  ^_^

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Good observation. As an enthusiast, I was an autodidact in various languages. BASIC (of course), Pascal, C, Assembly (6502 for Apple and later 8088/80x86 for IBM), Logo, and even PILOT (totally useless language).

 

Of those, C is pretty much the only one that's flourished. If you know C, it's easy to pick up on the variants, and even learning Java is no problem.

 

I know a lot of computer science chappies in JC were learning Pascal. I wonder whether any of them still use Pascal now. As far as I know, it's pretty much a useless language in professional development.

 

During my time uni (UK) was still using Pascal. I've to say Pascal was predecessor to C and is very similar. When it comes to 3rd level languages, once you master one you can pick up the others easily. And picking up 4th level or scripting languages even easier. You are right, C or C++ is a good one to start with.

 

When I entered the working world, COBOL although no longer taught in schools and was obselete due to y2k, was still in use in banking sector. Today I still see mainframes requiring 2nd level programming languages in use in manufacturing and shipping industries.

 

The current situation with programmers is, there are plenty of high level programmers good at scripting. Throw a stone at a group of programmers and sure hit someone who knows Java. The real demand for programmers is at the lower levels because low level languages are no longer taught, tougher to master, or unpopular. :huh:

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Good observation. As an enthusiast, I was an autodidact in various languages. BASIC (of course), Pascal, C, Assembly (6502 for Apple and later 8088/80x86 for IBM), Logo, and even PILOT (totally useless language).

 

Of those, C is pretty much the only one that's flourished. If you know C, it's easy to pick up on the variants, and even learning Java is no problem.

 

I know a lot of computer science chappies in JC were learning Pascal. I wonder whether any of them still use Pascal now. As far as I know, it's pretty much a useless language in professional development.

 

Pascal has no real world application use anymore. Have not seen anyone using it anymore.

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Now use eye power [sly]

 

eye power is for doing QC lel or you mean eye power for chio bu ?  hahaha 

Pascal has no real world application use anymore. Have not seen anyone using it anymore.

 

Pascal already "EOL" long ago ......... :a-rip:  killed by C++ [rifle]

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The real demand for programmers is at the lower levels because low level languages are no longer taught, tougher to master, or unpopular. :huh:

 

thats a sunset industry since its matter of time those dinosaur mainframes get replaced by amazon aws etc unless its a big corporate with own data center running rpg cobol etc for secrecy purposes

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i used to do c++ .. i actually made a couple of things that made a tiny sum for me back when I was 15 or 16. my parents were wondering how I came across so much USD all of a sudden .. lol ..

 

sadly, cant remember much anymore .. though back then, people were a lot more forgiving when they encountered bugs thankfully ...

 

no regrets though .. it was a great run, but i still wound up in a totally different industry

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I thought I had it when I understood

10 Print " Hello World"

 

Then next line got me mind fck.. Cannot break out of it..

20 Goto 10

 

I guess some lucky ones are born with programming language skill.

 

 

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Lala81

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You are right, programming cannot be taught. I have never went through any formal education or courses on programming.

Didn't know you in IT field as well
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I thought I had it when I understood

10 Print " Hello World"

 

Then next line got me mind fck.. Cannot break out of it..

20 Goto 10

 

I guess some lucky ones are born with programming language skill.

 

that sound like C++ with Cobol hahaha 

 

I solve for you : 

10 Print " Hello World" ; End 

 

 

 

Didn't know you in IT field as well

 

I think he in Infra kekeke

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Ryu

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that sound like C++ with Cobol hahaha 

 

I solve for you : 

10 Print " Hello World" ; End 

 

 

 

 

I think he in Infra kekeke

 

It is syntax for BASIC.

 

10 Print " Hello World"

20 Goto 10

 

It will print "Hello World" indefinitely.  [;)] 

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It is syntax for BASIC.

 

10 Print " Hello World"

20 Goto 10

 

It will print "Hello World" indefinitely.  [;)] 

 

Lucky I didnt learn Basic hahahha

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i used to code (thats what u call writing programs now eh?) a lot in school in C. probably the trickiest thing then was recursive functions. it was very straightforward stuff.

 

Stopped when i started working and now i just can't get my head around object oriented programming. Doesn't stop me from developing apps though. I just come up with a flowchart and get some kid in vietnam to do it for a few hundred $.

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Sometimes it is a matter of motivation: programming that has practical value yet simple enough.

 

A few web-centric examples:

- augmenting video sites, such as YouTube, to download the videos

- integrate CamelCamelCamel price history with Amazon (this is something Amazon will never do!)

- auction site sniper, better filtering

 

There is no need to start from scratch; there are open-source programs.

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