Adrianli Hypersonic September 20, 2016 Share September 20, 2016 The Singapore F1 is just a vanity project to showcase CBD "Christmas-Tree" buildings. We can call it a street circuit or whatever, but where is the "race" in a procession more orderly than a Toyota factory? My view is that the CEO and board of directors of Singapore Pte Ltd ("SPL") are extremely eager to continue this circus, as evidenced by the CNA reporting of dwindling spectators in the midst of contract negotiation with the new F1 owners. But after shelling out 6bn to buy over F1 from Bernie, I strongly suspect we will be ransomed to pay a higher fee for the next 5 years. As a shareholder of SPL, I can only swallow whatever they shove in and pray that they are gentle. I also support building a dedicated race track like Sepang, but having it at Changi or Tuas will defeat the purpose of this vanity project by the SPL senior management. They prefer building the street track and dismantling every year around the CBD so that we look good in the camera. Very typical wayang mindset. If ours is also a track like Sepang, we will have to compete with them to be able to organise a race. We need to be unique for F1 to stopover here. There are just too many venues for F1 and their calendar year is getting longer and longer. Off-season getting shorter and shorter. Therefore off-season testing and development has to be shifted to in-season. As we speak right now, they are already developing next year or next next year car. The teams will prefer lesser venues. Therefore if we are same as Sepang, might as well not compete here. To build a F1 standard track needs a lot of money to build and upkeep. Each race, need to re-surface the track. Then there is also the other infrastructure to build too. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic September 20, 2016 Share September 20, 2016 it's impossible for spore to build a race circuit just use sepang circuit as an example in order to build a 5.5km circuit, how big is the land size to cover the race track, land scape, twist and turn, spectator viewing area, pit building, etc the land require to build a circuit is extremely prohibitive besides, spore f1 is necessary on the street to showcase the nightview of spore ... if the circuit is hiden in a corner in tuas ... no point! lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic September 20, 2016 Share September 20, 2016 If ours is also a track like Sepang, we will have to compete with them to be able to organise a race. We need to be unique for F1 to stopover here. There are just too many venues for F1 and their calendar year is getting longer and longer. Off-season getting shorter and shorter. Therefore off-season testing and development has to be shifted to in-season. As we speak right now, they are already developing next year or next next year car. The teams will prefer lesser venues. Therefore if we are same as Sepang, might as well not compete here. To build a F1 standard track needs a lot of money to build and upkeep. Each race, need to re-surface the track. Then there is also the other infrastructure to build too. This. 100 percent this. Except my response is : dump Singapore!! Already the calendar is over full to the detriment of testing and development. Merc has become unbeatable to the point of tedium. I say dump the street circuits and the more boring (less pass-friendly) tracks. That would include Monaco, but I don't think they'll ever get rid of that because, you know, "HISTORY, MAN!!". But SG has no real international motorsport history to speak off. It lifts right out. Dump it, save our tax dollars and keep the good venues with the races spaced further apart. It would be best if we didn't even bid for 2018 onward, but knowing our gahmen, I can't expect that level of sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez911 Supersonic September 20, 2016 Share September 20, 2016 This. 100 percent this. Except my response is : dump Singapore!! Already the calendar is over full to the detriment of testing and development. Merc has become unbeatable to the point of tedium. I say dump the street circuits and the more boring (less pass-friendly) tracks. That would include Monaco, but I don't think they'll ever get rid of that because, you know, "HISTORY, MAN!!". But SG has no real international motorsport history to speak off. It lifts right out. Dump it, save our tax dollars and keep the good venues with the races spaced further apart. It would be best if we didn't even bid for 2018 onward, but knowing our gahmen, I can't expect that level of sense. I agree - dump Singapore! I watch the F1 not for the country but for the racing. If I want to know more about Singapore, I would have watched Lonely Planet, Anthony Bourdain or BBC Discovery. The concert wasn't great too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic September 20, 2016 Share September 20, 2016 (edited) if the CEO of SPL want to "maintain" the existence of a tiny red dot in the world map using sport F1 is debatable as their viewership is dropping like shit ... the "racing" has become so boring and the dominance from Redbull (4 years) and Merc (3 years) has made it worse ... even F1 is in crisis to maintain their viewership and fans perhaps, the CEO of SPL could consider other sport ... I agree - dump Singapore! I watch the F1 not for the country but for the racing. If I want to know more about Singapore, I would have watched Lonely Planet, Anthony Bourdain or BBC Discovery. The concert wasn't great too. Edited September 20, 2016 by Wt_know 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez911 Supersonic September 20, 2016 Share September 20, 2016 if the CEO of SPL want to "maintain" the existence of a tiny red dot in the world map using sport F1 is debatable as their viewership is dropping like shit ... the "racing" has become so boring and the dominance from Redbull (4 years) and Merc (3 years) has made it worse ... perhaps, the CEO of SPL could consider other sport ... That's a very good point bro. I just googled and noted that F1 viewership has dropped from 600m to 400m over a period of 8 years. I'm not sure exactly why we are spending so much money and effort building and dismantling the "race track" and "grand stands" every year around town. After all, the novelty factor of those "Christmas tree" buildings will wear off after 1-2 years. Who wants to sit there and watch laps upon laps of the same view? Who watch the same porn year-after-year? Are we after the tourism money or investment money via the F1? Do we visit or invest in Japan simply because they produce the best JAV? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersaylee Hypersonic September 20, 2016 Share September 20, 2016 I support D.S. The jewel has lost it's shine. 10 years are enough to showcase THE Red dot to a generation around the world. Tourism dollar not lucrative enough to keep it going. Dedicated track, which will be deemed as just another track, is definitely a no go since CC, airbase also have to make way... To promote the lion city we need more successful entrepreneurs and Schooling... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic September 20, 2016 Share September 20, 2016 (edited) who are these 8 people? any from MCF? like that win liao lor Edited September 20, 2016 by Wt_know 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersaylee Hypersonic September 20, 2016 Share September 20, 2016 who are these 8 people? any from MCF? like that win liao lor The parliament is over crowded. 10 are enough to represent the entire nation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic September 20, 2016 Share September 20, 2016 Every unkind word I've ever said about our gahmen giving elites and FTs (and especially elite FTs) special treatment? I take it back! This guy is the elitest of FTs and this happened after the highest profile event this year. And they still made him pay and detained him. Kudos. https://gptoday.com/details/view/580875/Maurizio_Arrivabene_fined_for_Singapore_littering/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibadog Turbocharged September 20, 2016 Share September 20, 2016 Every unkind word I've ever said about our gahmen giving elites and FTs (and especially elite FTs) special treatment? I take it back! This guy is the elitest of FTs and this happened after the highest profile event this year. And they still made him pay and detained him. Kudos. https://gptoday.com/details/view/580875/Maurizio_Arrivabene_fined_for_Singapore_littering/ hoax http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/no-truth-in-reports-ferrari-boss-fined-for-littering-in/3141276.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic September 20, 2016 Share September 20, 2016 hoax http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/no-truth-in-reports-ferrari-boss-fined-for-littering-in/3141276.html hahaha ... fine and detain Ferrari boss? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 hoax http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/no-truth-in-reports-ferrari-boss-fined-for-littering-in/3141276.html Man, I'm credulous. I took it seriously since it wasn't a local rag. Ok, everything I thought and said before still stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibadog Turbocharged September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 Man, I'm credulous. I took it seriously since it wasn't a local rag. Ok, everything I thought and said before still stands. well, it was picked up by quite a few international media outlets. I first saw the news on this when it was reposted by BBC Sport Original link was in Spanish. at that time, I was thinking... wah.. so hiong, must detain for 6hrs? he must have argued gao gao with NEA staff and then kena detention 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic October 2, 2016 Share October 2, 2016 (edited) S E P A N G ... cheong ah! Edited October 2, 2016 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic October 2, 2016 Share October 2, 2016 (edited) it's verstappen turn to take potshot on vettel ... "he is crazy and drive like an idiot" ... lol rosberg dropped to 17 ... now it's chance to see how aggressive and good he is whether he can overtake like hamilton when he started from last row Edited October 2, 2016 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic October 2, 2016 Share October 2, 2016 yeah, today Rosberg have to show what he is really made of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosszero Turbocharged October 2, 2016 Share October 2, 2016 it's verstappen turn to take potshot on vettel ... "he is crazy and drive like an idiot" ... lol rosberg dropped to 17 ... now it's chance to see how aggressive and good he is whether he can overtake like hamilton when he started from last row Once again Verstappen is involved in a crash ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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