Thaiyotakamli Supersonic March 21, 2022 Share March 21, 2022 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/woman-turned-to-private-sector-as-she-had-to-wait-5-months-for-colonoscopy-at-sgh?utm_campaign=stfb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1O5QrDLc3cM1PYFfFgTY543Xvay1q7u1EztWkHdbRz24VN2r-NAkXzoKA https://mothership.sg/2022/03/pregnant-woman-wait-2-hours-nuh-miscarriage/?fbclid=IwAR1tb9c3qQsXHoVhoeApzu6cQN63veDeZNeuHFDaPOD7mH_ID7jqTRz5nLA think really need big change the public hospital before covid ald long waiting time now they don’t treat u wait for few more months ↡ Advertisement 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic March 21, 2022 Share March 21, 2022 48 minutes ago, Thaiyotakamli said: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/woman-turned-to-private-sector-as-she-had-to-wait-5-months-for-colonoscopy-at-sgh?utm_campaign=stfb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1O5QrDLc3cM1PYFfFgTY543Xvay1q7u1EztWkHdbRz24VN2r-NAkXzoKA https://mothership.sg/2022/03/pregnant-woman-wait-2-hours-nuh-miscarriage/?fbclid=IwAR1tb9c3qQsXHoVhoeApzu6cQN63veDeZNeuHFDaPOD7mH_ID7jqTRz5nLA think really need big change the public hospital before covid ald long waiting time now they don’t treat u wait for few more months I used to wait 3 months for Liver CT scan at SGH 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic March 21, 2022 Author Share March 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, inlinesix said: I used to wait 3 months for Liver CT scan at SGH Yup my mother waiting for CT at NUH for 3 months so end up go private and within 1 week do tumour removal surgery 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic March 21, 2022 Share March 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Thaiyotakamli said: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/woman-turned-to-private-sector-as-she-had-to-wait-5-months-for-colonoscopy-at-sgh?utm_campaign=stfb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1O5QrDLc3cM1PYFfFgTY543Xvay1q7u1EztWkHdbRz24VN2r-NAkXzoKA https://mothership.sg/2022/03/pregnant-woman-wait-2-hours-nuh-miscarriage/?fbclid=IwAR1tb9c3qQsXHoVhoeApzu6cQN63veDeZNeuHFDaPOD7mH_ID7jqTRz5nLA think really need big change the public hospital before covid ald long waiting time now they don’t treat u wait for few more months Is the couple gynae based in NUH? Why go NUH when it's so close to EDD if it's not where the gynae is based? Shouldn't they be at the gynae hospital? Bleeding before birth sounds like placenta abruption. Meaning the placenta detached before the foetus is born, depriving the foetus of oxygenated blood from mum. If baby is already born then will be able to breath on its own or have supplement oxygen in NICU. Every minute lost due to placenta abruption brings the foetus to fatality. If gynae is based there. Then what was the doctor doing or not doing? Edited March 21, 2022 by Atonchia 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosszero Turbocharged March 21, 2022 Share March 21, 2022 (edited) As tragic as it is, by the time the pregnant mother bled, the baby may have been gone. We would never know. I personally had a friend who was happily expecting their full term child, only for him to be stillborn days before EDD. They had already a name for him. A baby crib and all the things parents are told they would need to prepare for the new arrival. Its heartbreaking but sometimes that's life. When my kid was on the way, I kept repressing overt expectations, knowing it could all be taken away in an instant. Even when the kid is out, I never stop worrying. I guess that's part of being a parent? (By the way, I think the title of the thread is misleading and alleges that NUH is at fault. It suggests she was fine before she entered A&E but she was already bleeding upon admission.) Edited March 21, 2022 by Macrosszero To correct the misleading title. 10 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic March 21, 2022 Share March 21, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Atonchia said: Is the couple gynae based in NUH? Why go NUH when it's so close to EDD if it's not where the gynae is based? Shouldn't they be at the gynae hospital? Bleeding before birth sounds like placenta abruption. Meaning the placenta detached before the foetus is born, depriving the foetus of oxygenated blood from mum. If baby is already born then will be able to breath on its own or have supplement oxygen in NICU. Every minute lost due to placenta abruption brings the foetus to fatality. Precisely. Must read the details. Apparently she was bleeding upon reaching A&E. Imo nothing to do with hospital protocol but more so appeared negligent on the A&E. No A&E would leave a patient bleeding wait in the foyers. Public hospital probably don't has delegated gynae per patient? Edited March 21, 2022 by Kopites 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windwaver Turbocharged March 21, 2022 Share March 21, 2022 Any healthcare personal here in NUH? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic March 21, 2022 Share March 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, Kopites said: Precisely. Must read the details. Apparently she was bleeding upon reaching A&E. Imo nothing to do with hospital protocol but more so appeared negligent on the A&E. No A&E would leave a patient bleeding wait in the foyers. Public hospital probably don't has delegated gynae per patient? There could be more hidden details. But I don't think normal A and E has standby gynae. Maybe KK would have. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic March 21, 2022 Share March 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Windwaver said: Any healthcare personal here in NUH? Don't cause a fellow MCFer to potentially kena disciplinary actions hor.... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosszero Turbocharged March 21, 2022 Share March 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Windwaver said: Any healthcare personal here in NUH? Customer can? To address some points. Yes, NUH has a maternity ward Yes ambulances will send patients to the nearest hospital Expecting mothers who are planning to deliver are told to get themselves to NUH if their water bag breaks They should also call their NUH-based gynae if there is anything abnormal, we got a card from ours, to call in case of emergency I don't want to say whether there has been a lapse or not either because sh!t happens. Keep in mind COVID-19 has been loading the healthcare system badly. I just really feel for the parents. BRB, going to hug my kid now. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic March 21, 2022 Share March 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Macrosszero said: As tragic as it is, by the time the pregnant mother bled, the baby may have been gone. We would never know. I personally had a friend who was happily expecting their full term child, only for him to be stillborn days before EDD. They had already a name for him. A baby crib and all the things parents are told they would need to prepare for the new arrival. Its heartbreaking but sometimes that's life. When my kid was on the way, I kept repressing overt expectations, knowing it could all be taken away in an instant. Even when the kid is out, I never stop worrying. I guess that's part of being a parent? (By the way, I think the title of the thread is misleading and alleges that NUH is at fault. It suggests she was fine before she entered A&E but she was already bleeding upon admission.) Antepartum haemorrhage is an obstetric emergency. Leaving the woman alone and monitoring her vital signs alone is not sufficient. You need very quick assessment by an O&G doctor, or at least an experienced midwife. Apart from a history and physical exam, an ultrasound and a CTG (Cardiotocograph) to monitor uterine activity and fetal heartrate are all pretty much mandatory. The woman might need an urgent delivery, possibly by emergency Caesarian section. This is all basic stuff. If the story is not significantly embellished, then there is a potential negligence lawsuit here. Edited March 21, 2022 by Turboflat4 18 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanoyip Turbocharged March 21, 2022 Share March 21, 2022 (edited) Can't believe the waiting part.. Totally unacceptable.. Edited March 21, 2022 by Beanoyip 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic March 22, 2022 Share March 22, 2022 They should go KKH or Mount Alvernia Hospital once they see too many patients at NUH. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic March 22, 2022 Author Share March 22, 2022 I only can say we have few bad experiences with NUH esp its A&E that was prior to covid. So now I believe waiting time will be even longer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic March 22, 2022 Share March 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, Watwheels said: They should go KKH or Mount Alvernia Hospital once they see too many patients at NUH. Where got time to go here and there? This is an emergency 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic March 22, 2022 Share March 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, inlinesix said: Where got time to go here and there? This is an emergency Wait 2 hours for emergency? In the first place should go to a maternity hospital like KKH. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tkseah Turbocharged March 22, 2022 Share March 22, 2022 For such emergencies should one call 995 for ambulance? Ambulance will bring to the nearest public hospital, which may not be where the gynae is... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosszero Turbocharged March 22, 2022 Share March 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Turboflat4 said: Antepartum haemorrhage is an obstetric emergency. Leaving the woman alone and monitoring her vital signs alone is not sufficient. You need very quick assessment by an O&G doctor, or at least an experienced midwife. Apart from a history and physical exam, an ultrasound and a CTG (Cardiotocograph) to monitor uterine activity and fetal heartrate are all pretty much mandatory. The woman might need an urgent delivery, possibly by emergency Caesarian section. This is all basic stuff. If the story is not significantly embellished, then there is a potential negligence lawsuit here. Great professional’s point of view - so even if the baby was already gone by then, the correct triage procedures should have kicked in and as I mentioned, there is a maternity ward nearby and likely more experienced personnel on hand that could be called upon. ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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