Tesla model Y

[Lethalstrike]

On 9/13/2025 at 5:35 PM, Theoldjaffa said:

4) eeyer the drive is so jerky. the moment i lift off throttle i get thrown forward. the brake regen and one pedal drive is too harsh

Yes this is a reality but also a main feature in driving EVs. Just learn to modulate the pedal and not have a jackrabbit foot. You'll get used to driving this way in less than 30 mins.

I thought the Model Y Juniper's OPD can be set to off totally? Or its only low regen and high regen? 

[Theoldjaffa]

On 9/15/2025 at 5:43 PM, Lethalstrike said:

I thought the Model Y Juniper's OPD can be set to off totally? Or its only low regen and high regen? 

Ya there’s 2 modes: Standard and Reduced.

Level of regen is the same but the feel is different.

People who can accept OPD as a way of driving will buy a Tesla.

Those who can’t, will buy others that drives how an ICE car would.

There’s no right or wrong, just a matter of preference. 

I myself swear by OPD. It’s a gamechanger 🤗

 

Edited September 15 by Theoldjaffa

[Lethalstrike]

On 9/15/2025 at 7:36 PM, Theoldjaffa said:

Ya there’s 2 modes: Standard and Reduced.

Level of regen is the same but the feel is different.

People who can accept OPD as a way of driving will buy a Tesla.

Those who can’t, will buy others that drives how an ICE car would.

There’s no right or wrong, just a matter of preference. 

I myself swear by OPD. It’s a gamechanger 🤗

 

Yes it is. Once you get used to the hang of it, its definitely very useful in city traffic. 

But Elon being Elon, he would still insist on Teslas being unable to coast freely with OPD turned off. I guess Teslas' software & electric motors are programmed in such a way that there has to be some degree of regen going on when you lift off in order for the cars to hit their impressive efficiency figures. One can't expect the car to coast freely and yet expect the disengaged motor to recover kinetic energy right? 

[Theoldjaffa]

On 9/16/2025 at 6:24 PM, Lethalstrike said:

Yes it is. Once you get used to the hang of it, its definitely very useful in city traffic. 

But Elon being Elon, he would still insist on Teslas being unable to coast freely with OPD turned off. I guess Teslas' software & electric motors are programmed in such a way that there has to be some degree of regen going on when you lift off in order for the cars to hit their impressive efficiency figures. One can't expect the car to coast freely and yet expect the disengaged motor to recover kinetic energy right? 

Concur. 

That said, coasting freely is also discouraged in ICE cars if I’m not wrong and it’s also rather dangerous. 

[Volvobrick]

On 9/16/2025 at 7:42 PM, Theoldjaffa said:

Concur. 

That said, coasting freely is also discouraged in ICE cars if I’m not wrong and it’s also rather dangerous. 

Those mild hybrids coast in neutral by design.

[Theoldjaffa]

On 9/16/2025 at 7:52 PM, Volvobrick said:

Those mild hybrids coast in neutral by design.

Ah ok I see what u and Lethalstrike mean liao.  

[Fuelsaver]

@Theoldjaffa I mostly shared similar views as you. Some stuffs that pissed me off about cn EVs: only boast range and not consumption, only talked about DC and not AC charging, no character in exterior design and interior ID - only tryin hard to impress but without character (e.g. BBA design go with their design language that one can't mistake and also finds them belonging to their brand features). Another issue was previously most models did not undergo Euro NCAP, and their different calibration on drive feel such as steering response and pedal feel - some felt vague, not communicative and / or not linear.

On OPD, it requires more precise and constant input - not for the "lazy" driver with some 1 and 0 setting in acceleration. Since I've been mostly sensitive to accel and brake inputs throughout my driving years, OPD makes sense to me, and the bonus is not having to clean the alloys as frequent. I'm glad there are EVs with OPD.

For no AA / CP, you may try sharing your Google Map with Tesla - works well for me so far.

[Theoldjaffa]

On 9/18/2025 at 7:35 PM, Fuelsaver said:

@Theoldjaffa I mostly shared similar views as you. Some stuffs that pissed me off about cn EVs: only boast range and not consumption, only talked about DC and not AC charging, no character in exterior design and interior ID - only tryin hard to impress but without character (e.g. BBA design go with their design language that one can't mistake and also finds them belonging to their brand features). Another issue was previously most models did not undergo Euro NCAP, and their different calibration on drive feel such as steering response and pedal feel - some felt vague, not communicative and / or not linear.

On OPD, it requires more precise and constant input - not for the "lazy" driver with some 1 and 0 setting in acceleration. Since I've been mostly sensitive to accel and brake inputs throughout my driving years, OPD makes sense to me, and the bonus is not having to clean the alloys as frequent. I'm glad there are EVs with OPD.

For no AA / CP, you may try sharing your Google Map with Tesla - works well for me so far.

Thanks for sharing. You’re spot on on OPD. 

i use Waze, and I share my drive from Waze to my Tesla every time. 

however, Tesla only ack the destination but they still choose their own route that’s different from Waze 🤷‍♂️

[Fuelsaver]

On 9/18/2025 at 9:29 PM, Theoldjaffa said:

Thanks for sharing. You’re spot on on OPD. 

i use Waze, and I share my drive from Waze to my Tesla every time. 

however, Tesla only ack the destination but they still choose their own route that’s different from Waze 🤷‍♂️

another way is to share with map apps after opening them from your phone. i did observed slight difference when sharing directly via calendar address vs address keyed in in Google Maps and then shared from there. i stand corrected though

[Mkl22]

On 9/18/2025 at 11:29 PM, Theoldjaffa said:

Thanks for sharing. You’re spot on on OPD. 

i use Waze, and I share my drive from Waze to my Tesla every time. 

however, Tesla only ack the destination but they still choose their own route that’s different from Waze 🤷‍♂️

Drove a model3 in Taiwan. Routed us thru a cemetery with very narrow roads where one slip and you end up in a plot hole or a ditch. Cause shorter distance. 🤣

[Voodooman]

On 9/18/2025 at 7:35 PM, Fuelsaver said:

@Theoldjaffa I mostly shared similar views as you. Some stuffs that pissed me off about cn EVs: only boast range and not consumption, only talked about DC and not AC charging, no character in exterior design and interior ID - only tryin hard to impress but without character (e.g. BBA design go with their design language that one can't mistake and also finds them belonging to their brand features). Another issue was previously most models did not undergo Euro NCAP, and their different calibration on drive feel such as steering response and pedal feel - some felt vague, not communicative and / or not linear.

On OPD, it requires more precise and constant input - not for the "lazy" driver with some 1 and 0 setting in acceleration. Since I've been mostly sensitive to accel and brake inputs throughout my driving years, OPD makes sense to me, and the bonus is not having to clean the alloys as frequent. I'm glad there are EVs with OPD.

For no AA / CP, you may try sharing your Google Map with Tesla - works well for me so far.

What is BBA design? 

Tesla design is nicer than most CN EV? A lot of Chinese EV manufacturers hire renowned designers from Europe and some Chinese EV actually looks pretty decent. 

I think MYJ design is ok. M3H has improved somewhat but i won’t say they have characters? I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. 

[Theoldjaffa]

On 9/18/2025 at 11:06 PM, Fuelsaver said:

another way is to share with map apps after opening them from your phone. i did observed slight difference when sharing directly via calendar address vs address keyed in in Google Maps and then shared from there. i stand corrected though

Ya I shared from Waze in my phone directly. Still the same. Tesla routes their own route and bring me around “touring the garden” 🤪

[Theoldjaffa]

On 9/19/2025 at 12:17 AM, Mkl22 said:

Drove a model3 in Taiwan. Routed us thru a cemetery with very narrow roads where one slip and you end up in a plot hole or a ditch. Cause shorter distance. 🤣

Wah so wee hiam sia 

[Mkl22]

On 9/19/2025 at 2:29 AM, Voodooman said:

What is BBA design? 

Tesla design is nicer than most CN EV? A lot of Chinese EV manufacturers hire renowned designers from Europe and some Chinese EV actually looks pretty decent. 

I think MYJ design is ok. M3H has improved somewhat but i won’t say they have characters? I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. 

BBA is Benz BMW Audi.  Chinese speak for the German brands. 

[Voodooman]

On 9/19/2025 at 2:12 PM, Mkl22 said:

BBA is Benz BMW Audi.  Chinese speak for the German brands. 

I see. Thanks for sharing but a coherent design language is generally for premium brands, right?  I don't see it much in Toyota (maybe sub brand, Lexus) which deliberately does not use a uniform design language across its mass-market vehicles.

Chinese EV players are more Toyota than BBA for now.  

 

 

[Fuelsaver]

On 9/19/2025 at 12:29 AM, Voodooman said:

What is BBA design? 

Tesla design is nicer than most CN EV? A lot of Chinese EV manufacturers hire renowned designers from Europe and some Chinese EV actually looks pretty decent. 

I think MYJ design is ok. M3H has improved somewhat but i won’t say they have characters? I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. 

Benz bm audi. Agree beauty in beholder eyes, but still feel Cn EV trying too hard to impress

[Heartbreakid]

On 9/21/2025 at 1:14 AM, Fuelsaver said:

Benz bm audi. Agree beauty in beholder eyes, but still feel Cn EV trying too hard to impress

I initially got very impressed and grew strong interest with CN EVs, but the pace they introduced their products and their line-up gave me an impression of a mess. And agree that their design lack of character. Exterior-wise still can differentiate but the interior, the dashboard design especially, all with the same template. And I feel they are very strong in their marketing just to get their products move but speaking of break-through, especially in range, they are not making much progress. As fast as my interest grew on them, they also become boring very fast too. I feel Tesla made changes and progress at a more normal and healthy pace like legacy auto-makers, while CN ones are like pushing for the sake of pushing to stay competitive.

[inlinesix]

On 9/21/2025 at 10:08 AM, Heartbreakid said:

I initially got very impressed and grew strong interest with CN EVs, but the pace they introduced their products and their line-up gave me an impression of a mess. And agree that their design lack of character. Exterior-wise still can differentiate but the interior, the dashboard design especially, all with the same template. And I feel they are very strong in their marketing just to get their products move but speaking of break-through, especially in range, they are not making much progress. As fast as my interest grew on them, they also become boring very fast too. I feel Tesla made changes and progress at a more normal and healthy pace like legacy auto-makers, while CN ones are like pushing for the sake of pushing to stay competitive.

Most people outside of China do not understand how competitive China is.
It applies to all industry.

Every quarter is a facelift while every new year is a new product cycle.