Breakdown in Cameron Highlands

[Kklee]

On 1/2/2024 at 8:25 PM, inlinesix said:

A lot of driver will step on the brake along the descent.

That’s why you brake fade.

Just step hard at a sharp corner.

No engine braking for modern AT and CVT.

I drove a lot of time up CH with pickup.

No brake fade le

IMHO.
Is it like depress the brake pedal firmly for a short time when needed vs keep the brake pedal depress (slightly) for longer period of time ?
I think the latter definitely will have brake fade. 🤔

[kobayashiGT]

On 1/2/2024 at 6:06 PM, inlinesix said:

I cheong downslope from CH in a pickup truck.

No issue with brake fade when i reached flat land.

Each to its own. hahaha. I also cheong when i drive up to Cameron highlands one. hahaha. Where to find b road to enjoy in SG. 😂

but my brake dust is jialat one. hahahah. 

[inlinesix]

On 1/3/2024 at 9:18 AM, kobayashiGT said:

Each to its own. hahaha. I also cheong when i drive up to Cameron highlands one. hahaha. Where to find b road to enjoy in SG. 😂

but my brake dust is jialat one. hahahah. 

Just hose the wheel and tyre when you get home lo

[kobayashiGT]

On 1/3/2024 at 9:25 AM, inlinesix said:

Just hose the wheel and tyre when you get home lo

Yah. I will go 12 ringgit wash before head home. hahahahah 

[Kb27]

On 1/3/2024 at 8:27 AM, Kklee said:

IMHO. AFAIK.
For Toyota Hybrid,  the braking system consist of the regenerative braking and hydraulic braking.   Under normal circumstances will be regenerative  braking and towards the end, before the vehicle is about to stop,  will be the hydraulic braking.   The braking, in a way, is computer controlled which determines if use regenerative or hydraulic.  E.g if the brake pedal is depressed hard enough,  it will trigger the hydraulic brakes.   In regenerative braking,  the generator motor is used to slow the vehicle down.  When the gear shifter is in B,   the engine may be activated for more braking force i.e. engine brake. 

It is said the for hybrid, there is actually very little brake dust - should be due to the hydraulic brakes being used less. 

P.S.  I am a Hybrid newbie. 🤣
P.S.  I was reading off the WWW, seems to have some issue with the earlier gen of Prius. 

There is still a lot to learn for Hybrid or EV,  this thread comes timely - now I am trying to find out how to test the hydraulic brakes.  Maybe be doing hills/mountains in the future.  Cameron Highlands is one of the place. 

I guess that's why the rental company never replaced my Axio hybrid brake pads for over 200k.

However, the regen brake does not appear to be strong enough during ebrake. One time I jam the brake all the way, but still hit the car in front.

Now, I don't dare not go near any car in front. Imo, the regen brake is not good enough.

[inlinesix]

On 1/3/2024 at 9:49 AM, Kb27 said:

I guess that's why the rental company never replaced my Axio hybrid brake pads for over 200k.

However, the regen brake does not appear to be strong enough during ebrake. One time I jam the brake all the way, but still hit the car in front.

Now, I don't dare not go near any car in front. Imo, the regen brake is not good enough.

Strength of Regen brake depends on how much power the motor generates.

I was saved by Regen brake of E van a couple of times.

[Cephas]

The added weight with full load in the car also stressed out the brake.

[Kklee]

On 1/3/2024 at 9:49 AM, Kb27 said:

I guess that's why the rental company never replaced my Axio hybrid brake pads for over 200k.

However, the regen brake does not appear to be strong enough during ebrake. One time I jam the brake all the way, but still hit the car in front.

Now, I don't dare not go near any car in front. Imo, the regen brake is not good enough.

IMHO. AFIAK.
How it was suppose to work is,  when you jam the brake,  the computer will detect and use the hydraulic brakes. 
Yes,  i think because the brake pads are less used,  it doesn't require changing.  
The contention now is whether the other part of the hydraulic braking system is working.  
Base on my reading up,  you case of now being able to stop, could be something else other than the brake pads.

P.S. If your Axio Hybrid has DRCC*,  use that - higher chance of stopping in time.  DRCC also good for traffic jams condition. 👍
( * Version dependent )

[inlinesix]

On 1/3/2024 at 2:25 PM, Cephas said:

The added weight with full load in the car also stressed out the brake.

Even a 2 tonne pickup also don't stress the brake.  How can Prius stress the brake?

[Hammerhammer]

Latest update. Just collected car from Borneo. Confirm brake booster pump spoil. Change out the faulty pump ok already. Service advisor says ABS system warning light is triggered when booster pump lost power. Checked the ABS system ok. 

[Hammerhammer]

On 1/3/2024 at 9:18 AM, kobayashiGT said:

Each to its own. hahaha. I also cheong when i drive up to Cameron highlands one. hahaha. Where to find b road to enjoy in SG. 😂

but my brake dust is jialat one. hahahah. 

Should be using performance pads that's why brake dust jia liat right? Lol 

[kobayashiGT]

On 1/3/2024 at 5:52 PM, Hammerhammer said:

Should be using performance pads that's why brake dust jia liat right? Lol 

Hahaha. Yah. I am on AP.  Hahahahah. Changing to dixcel soon. Support JP! 

[Jamesc]

Absolutely no excuse for brake fade on a manual car going down CH.

The wrong gears was used.

Especially if you smell burning.

Basically riding the brakes all the way down.

The trick is use a lower gear and accelerate on the flatter roads.

And not use a higher gear and brake on the steeper bits.