ICE ICE baby - Internal Combustion Engine Only Chat

[inlinesix]

On 9/6/2025 at 9:51 PM, therock said:

These are worse than true hybrids IMO..

They increase your depreciation, don't add real mileage and you still have another battery replacement cost to worry about... 

If I do get a hybrid, I'll prefer the Honda type which has good integration and adds power whilst helping with mileage.. 

Honda hybrid doesn’t combine both power.

It is either electric or ICE

[therock]

Anyways this thread is to chat about or perhaps recall the heydays of ICE

so only ICE, no EVs nor hybrids be it mild or otherwise 

plenty of threads for those already 

a dying breed maybe but many existing car owners here I’ll bet 

[13177]

On 9/7/2025 at 7:57 AM, therock said:

Anyways this thread is to chat about or perhaps recall the heydays of ICE

so only ICE, no EVs nor hybrids be it mild or otherwise 

plenty of threads for those already 

a dying breed maybe but many existing car owners here I’ll bet 

For full ICE car, the only car i am familiar is  altis which is consider still have people buying now. Lol.

[ER-3682]

On 9/7/2025 at 6:13 AM, inlinesix said:

Honda hybrid doesn’t combine both power.

It is either electric or ICE

It is both.

[inlinesix]

On 9/7/2025 at 9:14 AM, ER-3682 said:

It is both.

It is not.

Unlike Toyota.

[ER-3682]

On 9/7/2025 at 7:57 AM, therock said:

Anyways this thread is to chat about or perhaps recall the heydays of ICE

so only ICE, no EVs nor hybrids be it mild or otherwise 

plenty of threads for those already 

a dying breed maybe but many existing car owners here I’ll bet 

Most German Cars are Mild Hybrid to meet the Emission Standard,then PURE ICE not much except you talk about Rolls Royce or Bentley...Lower End is Toyota Altis,because even Mazda 3 is consider Mild Hybrid.

[ER-3682]

On 9/7/2025 at 9:15 AM, inlinesix said:

It is not.

Unlike Toyota.

I driving Honda Vezel Hybrid i know is both...

[inlinesix]

On 9/7/2025 at 9:19 AM, ER-3682 said:

I driving Honda Vezel Hybrid i know is both...

You will hear engine in low speed.

That’s for charging.

[inlinesix]

Mild hybrid is NOT hybrid.

It does not drive drivetrain.

[ER-3682]

On 9/7/2025 at 9:20 AM, inlinesix said:

You will hear engine in low speed.

That’s for charging.

Nope,you are wrong,Full Throttle, Engine Full Revs,Vezel have a DCT Transmission,can feel Gear changed.

[ER-3682]

On 9/7/2025 at 9:22 AM, inlinesix said:

Mild hybrid is NOT hybrid.

It does not drive drivetrain.

For some High Engine German Cars like Mercedes Benz,BMW & Audi,it ''Assist'' the Engine in Move off.

[Tohto]

On 9/6/2025 at 8:24 PM, Benarsenal said:

Still got many leh.

- Audi A3
- Audi A5
- Suzuki Swift
- Nissan Qashqai
- Mini Cooper/JCW
- Range Rover Evoque
- Mercedes (almost all)
- Skoda Octavia
- VW Golf
- VW Tiguan
- Porsche 911

Most are mild hybrid for conti... TS don't want any electric involved. 

[Benarsenal]

On 9/7/2025 at 10:06 AM, Tohto said:

Most are mild hybrid for conti... TS don't want any electric involved. 

Fair enough, but mild hybrid not really hybrid lah. They don't really do anything.

[Tohto]

On 9/7/2025 at 9:37 AM, ER-3682 said:

For some High Engine German Cars like Mercedes Benz,BMW & Audi,it ''Assist'' the Engine in Move off.

Yes. 

When I try driving my colleague GLB180 I was quite surprised the move off feel quite light.  But run out of breath above 50km/h. So city low driving will still not that bad. 

 

[Tohto]

On 9/7/2025 at 10:11 AM, Benarsenal said:

Fair enough, but mild hybrid not really hybrid lah. They don't really do anything.

Extra things to spoil. 

[inlinesix]

On 9/7/2025 at 10:12 AM, Tohto said:

Yes. 

When I try driving my colleague GLB180 I was quite surprised the move off feel quite light.  But run out of breath above 50km/h. So city low driving will still not that bad. 

High torque from small turbo engine lo

[inlinesix]

On 9/7/2025 at 10:13 AM, Tohto said:

Extra things to spoil. 

ICE Cars should move 48v. But they can’t make up their min.

Mild hybrid is the compromise 

[inlinesix]

On 9/7/2025 at 9:37 AM, ER-3682 said:

For some High Engine German Cars like Mercedes Benz,BMW & Audi,it ''Assist'' the Engine in Move off.

It depends on type of assistance you mentioned.

The only real assistance is electric motor sitting in motor.

The rest is just aux assistance.