Major recall by MMC !!!! siao liaoz....

[Wish186]

Still in the "long... Q".... Replacement parts come from Japan in small batches and qty Think mine still need to wait for 2~3mths or maybe more. Probably all new wishes out from plant have priority for replacement and those oridy at Port or showroom.

[Linus]

if not major defects or life endangering one... no choice, wait loh. or drive with care...

[Wish186]

Touch WOOD My last ride recall two times but my ride got no problem. But after the recall, FC went up

 

Anyway, problem is to shift from "P" to "D". If got problem, off engine, depress shift lock & hold then shift gear from "P" to "N". Start engine, still can drive . For safety reason, I always make sure my foot brake is activated .

 

Sometime, parking on a slight slope has to depress brake pedal ALL THE WAY in order to shift gear.

[Lightspeed]

Nothing new actually

 

You can read about everything here

 

http://www.mitsubishisucks.com/

 

No offence to Mitsubishi owners... (I was one myself )

[Apollo]

em... there is also other suck sites for other cars wor.

[Gnoikj]

true..but then, there's a general all car sucks website also...so I guess we can really only look at track records of individual cars...

 

From looking at the article, I would say that MIT will have uphill battle...If I were the investor, maybe time to pull my money out....How many more ridiculous and embarassing scandals do they need? It only takes a bloody accident to turn someone's life upside down...

 

I guess the question really isn't if the defect was serious or not...its if there was a problem, should Mits have waited, covered it up, wait for 3 years before a acccident really happen? I think thats what happen for the first truck scandal..People had to die/get into accident before they admitted they covered up by not issuing a recall...if it was someone you knew getting hurt, then I guess you would agree that its really not very ethical of them...

[Lightspeed]

I'm only posting in relevance to the title of the thread

[Apollo]

what most pple see is those few words "cover up" but i hv my reservation abt tat truck incident which plunge into the subway n killed some1. cos it is mentioned tat the brake lines were damaged n cut. heck, it sure take a great force to cut the brake lines for sure. and if u hv an impact that cause the brake line to be damaged n cut, the vehicle would hv been totalled by then. cos these r somewhat embedded within considerable distance in the vehicle possible to certain extent, where the front passenger/ driver r seated.

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also, even if recall were issued, the problem with most trucks is that they will not act on it due to economic reasons, they cannot afford downtime. which leads me to doubt if they even service their truck. and tat can b pretty dangerous esp when u know tat the brake fluid r hydroscopic (ie absorb water) and if water goes into the brake line, break down the fluid, tat is it, as good as no brake.

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even on our road, we hv our fair share of reckless trucks. seen trailer overturned, concrete mixers turn turtle, u name it, we hv it. even a merc driving up mrt track.

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in short, the truck incident may be most unfortunate for Fuso/ MMC. i wun go the distance to blame Fuso MMC for everything.

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Toyota recalls 1,668 police cars

 

Wednesday, April 20, 2005 at 03:12 JST

TOKYO

[Osiris]

The last scandal wasn't their first. The Japanese have been tired of their endless and NATO apologies and promises. That's why they do not buy MMC back home. Any way Lancer was my first choice and in the end got persuaded not to buy.

[Maxyeo]

Colt Plus also ?????

[Estrangable]

let me make an uneducated guess: You must be driving a mitsubishi car........the way u defended it

[Gnoikj]

"also, even if recall were issued, the problem with most trucks is that they will not act on it due to economic reasons, they cannot afford downtime. which leads me to doubt if they even service their truck. and tat can b pretty dangerous esp when u know tat the brake fluid r hydroscopic (ie absorb water) and if water goes into the brake line, break down the fluid, tat is it, as good as no brake."

 

Bro, not to shoot you down or anything, but are u saying that simply because MMC expects the truck companies not to act on the recall, so they won't issue recall? Isn't that already ethically wrong?U know there's a problem that might cause danger, you dun say anything to change the situation cos u take the position that it wouldn't matter anyway cos your warning wun be heeded?

 

"in short, the truck incident may be most unfortunate for Fuso/ MMC. i wun go the distance to blame Fuso MMC for everything. "

 

I'm not blaming them for everything. Juz stating their lack of apparent morals.

 

my views...Flamers welcome...I just feel sorry for my lancer driving bro...

"even on our road, we hv our fair share of reckless trucks. seen trailer overturned, concrete mixers turn turtle, u name it, we hv it. even a merc driving up mrt track. "

 

No arguments there. But then we aren't talking about reckless drivers. the issue here is MMC's basic obligation to ensure their product is in working condition (by which I define as a means of transportation which brings me from one point to another point, ALIVE). So whats the deal? They sell u a car but then lie to u that its in perfect working condition when after a few incidents, discover that its not...they dun issue recall cos it would shake confidence, cause embarassment and harm the company so its all swept under the rug...doesn't matter who gets hurt right?

Edited April 23, 2005 by Gnoikj

[Apollo]

>>Bro, not to shoot you down or anything, but are u saying that simply because MMC expects the truck companies not to act on the recall, so they won't issue recall? Isn't that already ethically wrong?U know there's a problem that might cause danger, you dun say anything to change the situation cos u take the position that it wouldn't matter anyway cos your warning wun be heeded?

 

am agreeing wif u on that not defending them. just to state the current situation ie all vehicle manufacturers in japan acknowledge this problem of getting pple to response on recall. fr what i hv read off the past months, the polices r pulling errant trucks off the road, so there is an enforcement problem. guess until the last nut is tighten it will always remain a problem.

 

>>No arguments there. But then we aren't talking about reckless drivers. the issue here is MMC's basic obligation to ensure their product is in working condition (by which I define as a means of transportation which brings me from one point to another point, ALIVE). So whats the deal? They sell u a car but then lie to u that its in perfect working condition when after a few incidents, discover that its not...they dun issue recall cos it would shake confidence, cause embarassment and harm the company so its all swept under the rug...doesn't matter who gets hurt right?

 

yup, but i read Japan Today tabloid and plenty of hatemail in the forum MMC does fair badly in terms of customer service n QC, but they acknowledge such "hidding" practise actually beri rampant in japan. guess we really need to rethink Japan = Quality.

[Apollo]

dunno - think u wait. surely if the transport ministry issue out approval, they will then hv to notify all drivers. thru CnC or parallel import for all affected models.

[Apollo]

just a situational assessment. not defending them. cos end of the day, media does sensualized such news. nothing to benefit. if i wanna give u inside infor, i do say watch May14. tat would b marketing ploy.

[Essentiale]

wow even mercedes also not reliable....anyone has a link to the ranking of reliability of car manufacturers?

[Apollo]

last year survey by opinion only, jap car toyota n honda leads in top bracket, american models were bad, even mit car also higher then some american models. mebbe tat explains why gm quaterly report is down US$1 billion.

[Essentiale]

hows the reliability of bmw and mazda?

ive been playing with the idea of buying an old 10+ years car of that make cos its cheap 20-30k and then modding it.