Jerrcik 1st Gear September 11, 2012 Share September 11, 2012 Those ppl who can't change their mindset and still living in the 90s, i can only say it is their loss....we don't need to try to convince them, they will just call us fanboys or something. Yup ur right. In the 90s, MIK cars = crap. However, it changes so much these days.....MIK is definitely much better value than Japs. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4vtec 3rd Gear September 11, 2012 Share September 11, 2012 if it is the exact same car rebranded to BMW, under the same PML distributor, i wouldnt be surprised if people will pay in excess of 200K for the same thing. Again , generalisation that koreans are a level lower than Japs. i beg to differ and laugh at the peolple willing to pay crazy money for the percived " difference " . That coming from owning a kimchi SUV and a substanbtially more expensive Jap SUV. surprisingly the Jap SUV spent more time and money in the workshop as compared...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptronic Supercharged September 11, 2012 Share September 11, 2012 if it is the exact same car rebranded to BMW, under the same PML distributor, i wouldnt be surprised if people will pay in excess of 200K for the same thing. Again , generalisation that koreans are a level lower than Japs. i beg to differ and laugh at the peolple willing to pay crazy money for the percived " difference " . That coming from owning a kimchi SUV and a substanbtially more expensive Jap SUV. surprisingly the Jap SUV spent more time and money in the workshop as compared...... lol. In addition to replacing the Kia batch with BMW, you need to do the following minimum to sell at PML's prices: 1. Change FWD to RWD 2. Add Turbo to 2L 3. Balance the car with equal distribution of weight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurman Supercharged September 11, 2012 Share September 11, 2012 This car if optima have te interior of teana. Then super car liao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoverofCar 6th Gear September 11, 2012 Share September 11, 2012 (edited) No doubt KIA had came a long way from where it was...But to compare and putting it as a match to a beemer....I think it is indeed too optimistic...is good to be proud of what we owned....but reality do set it....a beemer is a beemer...a MB is a MB...a volvo is a volvo......a KIA is still a KIA ...at least for now.....and i did own korean car before any people say I'm a brand whore....,..I do see the progress of KIA and Hyundai... Edited September 11, 2012 by LoverofCar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kv3n 2nd Gear September 14, 2012 Share September 14, 2012 has the Koreans really improved? doubtful, maybe in terms of design. if compare to the japs also not on par yet in SG Roadsters Convertibles S2000, MX-5, MR-S, Copen, SC430, IS250C etc Sports Super Car GTR, LFA Sports EVO, Type R, STI, etc in terms of handling can any koreans handle as well? take Swift sport for example u drive u know how good this car can handle especially corners. Koreans?? No roadsters, convertibles... sports coupe? Koup? LOL SUV Koreans are still okay, Sorento, Santa Fe in fact i like the SUVS Korean hybrid cars? maybe in Korea have already i dunno any comments welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangadrool Supersonic September 14, 2012 Share September 14, 2012 Buy what you're happy. Period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayspiderx 3rd Gear September 14, 2012 Share September 14, 2012 In 90' hyundai has coupe n tuscuni n accent rally car, '10 genesis coupe, '12 veloster...a direct injection turbo with dsg K5 got hybrid but only in US Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josephsatu 1st Gear September 15, 2012 Share September 15, 2012 Yup ur right. In the 90s, MIK cars = crap. However, it changes so much these days.....MIK is definitely much better value than Japs. I drove the "pony" in the 80s' and run like a pony as well, but definitely brand wise in asia is a problem They should be like the japs makin cars all over asia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_lover Supercharged September 15, 2012 Share September 15, 2012 has the Koreans really improved? doubtful, maybe in terms of design. if compare to the japs also not on par yet in SG Roadsters Convertibles S2000, MX-5, MR-S, Copen, SC430, IS250C etc Sports Super Car GTR, LFA Sports EVO, Type R, STI, etc in terms of handling can any koreans handle as well? take Swift sport for example u drive u know how good this car can handle especially corners. Koreans?? No roadsters, convertibles... sports coupe? Koup? LOL SUV Koreans are still okay, Sorento, Santa Fe in fact i like the SUVS Korean hybrid cars? maybe in Korea have already i dunno any comments welcome You created an account just to say all this?? Anyway this thread is main abt optima K5. Why you bring in Evo, GTR (!!), LFA (!!??!), roadsters, etc. into the picture? Nobody here is saying that Koup is comparable to any of these and bear in mind the price is nothing even near to one of these. We are talking about VALUE, not absolute. Yes, so Kia/Hyundai don't have roadster. So? Its just a segment which they are not ready to enter as they feel not viable at this point. Take K5, Elantra, new i30 and do a price to price comparison with japanese equivalents (Camry, Vios, Altis, Lancer, Imprezza, etc) and you will see the difference. Admitedly, price difference is perhaps smaller now (or in fact on par) as Korean cars are more expensive these days. But features wise they will still trump the Jap rivals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackyv Turbocharged September 15, 2012 Share September 15, 2012 You created an account just to say all this?? Anyway this thread is main abt optima K5. Why you bring in Evo, GTR (!!), LFA (!!??!), roadsters, etc. into the picture? Nobody here is saying that Koup is comparable to any of these and bear in mind the price is nothing even near to one of these. We are talking about VALUE, not absolute. Yes, so Kia/Hyundai don't have roadster. So? Its just a segment which they are not ready to enter as they feel not viable at this point. Take K5, Elantra, new i30 and do a price to price comparison with japanese equivalents (Camry, Vios, Altis, Lancer, Imprezza, etc) and you will see the difference. Admitedly, price difference is perhaps smaller now (or in fact on par) as Korean cars are more expensive these days. But features wise they will still trump the Jap rivals. Agree,,, my heart is toward elantra or maybe k3 if they bring it in around 2014 but when I compare the omv, my head starts to take over my heart.... will see how it goes when the day come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mllcg 3rd Gear September 15, 2012 Share September 15, 2012 You created an account just to say all this?? Anyway this thread is main abt optima K5. Why you bring in Evo, GTR (!!), LFA (!!??!), roadsters, etc. into the picture? Nobody here is saying that Koup is comparable to any of these and bear in mind the price is nothing even near to one of these. We are talking about VALUE, not absolute. Yes, so Kia/Hyundai don't have roadster. So? Its just a segment which they are not ready to enter as they feel not viable at this point. Take K5, Elantra, new i30 and do a price to price comparison with japanese equivalents (Camry, Vios, Altis, Lancer, Imprezza, etc) and you will see the difference. Admitedly, price difference is perhaps smaller now (or in fact on par) as Korean cars are more expensive these days. But features wise they will still trump the Jap rivals. actually, most people(not in sg), base a how good the company is by their sports models... so what hes comparing is not unique.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvinteo10 Neutral Newbie September 15, 2012 Share September 15, 2012 good deal! -20k $139,999. cheaper than civic for a size of camry! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_lover Supercharged September 17, 2012 Share September 17, 2012 Agree,,, my heart is toward elantra or maybe k3 if they bring it in around 2014 but when I compare the omv, my head starts to take over my heart.... will see how it goes when the day come But the OMV will not make any difference unless you actually want to drive until the end of the 10 years. And even so, with $5000 OMV difference, you only recover back $2,500 - after the 10 years. In terms of selling price, it will be based on the new car price at the time you sell, not on the paper value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kweechang 1st Gear September 17, 2012 Share September 17, 2012 I will buy car based on the country, where it is build, but not the brand, if price is not the key factor 1. Germany 2. Japan 3. Korea 4. Thailand 5. China Therefore, a MIK is preferred than MIT (Japanese brand). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4vtec 3rd Gear September 17, 2012 Share September 17, 2012 I will buy car based on the country, where it is build, but not the brand, if price is not the key factor 1. Germany 2. Japan 3. Korea 4. Thailand 5. China Therefore, a MIK is preferred than MIT (Japanese brand). no proton for you then :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4vtec 3rd Gear September 17, 2012 Share September 17, 2012 No doubt KIA had came a long way from where it was...But to compare and putting it as a match to a beemer....I think it is indeed too optimistic...is good to be proud of what we owned....but reality do set it....a beemer is a beemer...a MB is a MB...a volvo is a volvo......a KIA is still a KIA ...at least for now.....and i did own korean car before any people say I'm a brand whore....,..I do see the progress of KIA and Hyundai... i somehow agree with your statement, their technology might be noticiable in some of the mid to high range offerings. but with regards to theire base models, the gap might not be that obvious. Having said that, i too yearn to own a blue propeller even if it becomes a 110i hahah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silklee 3rd Gear September 17, 2012 Share September 17, 2012 which also means that they have a very high margin to be able to offer such "freebies". ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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