Cyclist Problem

[Bomby929]

Regardless of what drivers are made of. I practise defensive and safe riding. Do the other cyclist? So what's holding the others from doing so? Getting back at the drivers to teach them a lesson? In the event of a serious collision, who is at the losing end, even if the driver is charged in court? So what if the cyclist receives compensation from the insurance company? And who loses a limb or two or perhaps his/her life? Who bears the physical and emotional scars? Answer is clear and commonsense.

 

Cyclists do need to look hard at the whole picture. Not focus at their little own world and pleasures.

 

I agree fully. Simple fact that as a cyclist I have more to lose than a driver, but looking at some of the cyclist behaviour.. always makes me wonder they have a death wish or think that they are superman or something.

 

Sharing means both direction.. not you demand and other give.

[Nzy]

I agree fully. Simple fact that as a cyclist I have more to lose than a driver, but looking at some of the cyclist behaviour.. always makes me wonder they have a death wish or think that they are superman or something.

 

Sharing means both direction.. not you demand and other give.

 

Some people just don't think of the consequences. Just like there are drivers who can run the red light many seconds after the red light is on. I guess those cyclists who ignore the traffic rules are most likely to be those who drive recklessly at least based on those cyclists whom I know. They expect to have the right of the way all the time.

 

I have a friend who just happens to be like this. When he is on his bicycle he ignores traffic lights and doesn't signal whether he is going straight or turning when he is on a lane that can turn or go straight. When he is driving, he always curse at cyclists who are on the road. Although he also cycles on the road regularly.

Edited November 19, 2012 by Nzy

[Nono]

Just a general comment to make : Car owners pay road tax to use the road. How come cyclists do not need to pay road tax to cycle on public roads? Drives are penalized for driving on bus lane during peak hours. Will cyclists be penalized if they do so?

[Taipan49]

There are always bad "eggs" in every big group. Not everyone conforms to the rules and there is always going to be some bending of them.

 

For those motorists who don't want cyclists on the road, then help advocate expansion of the PCN and bike lanes so the cyclists can travel safely. They are reducing the traffic conjestion for you by being 1 less car, or 1 less person on the bus/mrt.

[Nzy]

Just a general comment to make : Car owners pay road tax to use the road. How come cyclists do not need to pay road tax to cycle on public roads? Drives are penalized for driving on bus lane during peak hours. Will cyclists be penalized if they do so?

 

Was told because bicycle no engine. Its legal for bicycles to cycle on bus lanes even during the operation hours.

[Scoobyclub]

Those pro cyclists I don't mind coz they know the rules. Not all. But those India and China workers cyclists, I damn hate them. Like they own the road. Even police pass by also didn't catch them. Wth...

[Taipan49]

Just a general comment to make : Car owners pay road tax to use the road. How come cyclists do not need to pay road tax to cycle on public roads? Drives are penalized for driving on bus lane during peak hours. Will cyclists be penalized if they do so?

 

Road tax is based on engine capacity. The Aventador pays $7,856/yr, where a OPC Perodua pays $70/yr. Both have the same rights to be on the road but there is a big difference in the price they pay! So is one more equal than the other?

 

And yes cyclists are stopped and fined by the TP if they are caught doing breaking traffic laws. http://www.mha.gov.sg/news_details.aspx?ni...-FQsQbvrhWsU%3D

Edited November 19, 2012 by Taipan49

[Babyt]

actually we are quite well covered with PCN for leisure cycling however some destinations can get u faster by using the roads.

 

i tried cycling using hybrid bike from bedok to har par villa, 95% via pavements and PCN. took me 2.5hrs. not to mention when u r not on the road, u need to tackle with pedestrains for space.

 

road bikes also more appropriate to be ridden on road than pavement and PCN so that they can speed and wont hit pedstratrains.

[Topspin]

Those pro cyclists I don't mind coz they know the rules. Not all. But those India and China workers cyclists, I damn hate them. Like they own the road. Even police pass by also didn't catch them. Wth...

 

I have an opposite experience. It is the cyclist with those fancy attire and $10K bikes that irks me the most. They are the vocal ones who insist on their rights to ride on any road anytime and anywhere they like, immune to any traffic junction lights. I have even came across the same category of cyclist who sticks the third finger at you just because I was slightly less than 1.5 meter away from them during peak rush hour traffic....riding two abreast, probably casually discussing about the shape of their buttocks in their tight bicycle shorts.

 

 

[Taipan49]

I have an opposite experience. It is the cyclist with those fancy attire and $10K bikes that irks me the most. They are the vocal ones who insist on their rights to ride on any road anytime and anywhere they like, immune to any traffic junction lights. I have even came across the same category of cyclist who sticks the third finger at you just because I was slightly less than 1.5 meter away from them during peak rush hour traffic....riding two abreast, probably casually discussing about the shape of their buttocks in their tight bicycle shorts.

 

So they shouldn't insist on their rights?

[Nzy]

I have an opposite experience. It is the cyclist with those fancy attire and $10K bikes that irks me the most. They are the vocal ones who insist on their rights to ride on any road anytime and anywhere they like, immune to any traffic junction lights. I have even came across the same category of cyclist who sticks the third finger at you just because I was slightly less than 1.5 meter away from them during peak rush hour traffic....riding two abreast, probably casually discussing about the shape of their buttocks in their tight bicycle shorts.

 

Whats wrong with cycling 2 abreast? Its legal. If you overtake less than 1.5m away its an offence. I have submitted videos of drivers overtaking me on my bicycle less than 1.5m away. Some got charged with inconsiderate driving and some got warnings.

[Topspin]

So they shouldn't insist on their rights?

 

Not intending to debate who has more rights or less rights but just indicate the category of cyclist between the two categories who irks me more by their arrogance. But I must add, not all, same like car driver in general.

[Topspin]

Whats wrong with cycling 2 abreast? Its legal. If you overtake less than 1.5m away its an offence. I have submitted videos of drivers overtaking me on my bicycle less than 1.5m away. Some got charged with inconsiderate driving and some got warnings.

 

I have got videos of cyclist blatantly crossing red lights as well and riding when there is a moving motorised vehicle to their left (clear offence for them).

 

TP charging motorist for not keeping to 1.5 meters beside a cyclist? This is new. So, all cyclist now carries video cameras just like cars already.

[Elfenstar]

Just a general comment to make : Car owners pay road tax to use the road. How come cyclists do not need to pay road tax to cycle on public roads? Drives are penalized for driving on bus lane during peak hours. Will cyclists be penalized if they do so?

 

Simple. Bicycles do not pollute. Car's do. And no, cyclists will not be penalised as long as they are in a single file.

 

[Yewheng]

. From cyclist perspective they may feel they have right of way, but I always tell them safety is more important than right of way.

 

I find it stunning when supposing it is green man flashing and just a particular cyclist rode across traffic crossing and total obvious of car turning right approaching. Than cars have to brake hard and stop at yellow box inorder to avoid collision. Yes green man flashing but that does not mean cyclist is invincible, sometimes car turning right might not notice cyclist riding at traffic light.

 

Another incident which cyclist can avoid collision with cars is when cycling on road when approaching filter lane from left junction, yes cars turning left have to stop at dotted line to give way to traffic, but always

Slow down when seeing cars turning left at fast speed. Ill seen cars just don't care about cyclist when turning left and just accelerate out exit and cyclist also do not slow down and cycle at the current speed. So when cyclists insist have right of way is more important than safety comes 1st? Very puzzling..

 

I mean when collision, cyclists will always at serious injury or even fatal , so no matter whether have right of way or not is not that important as compared to safety comes 1st.

Edited November 19, 2012 by Yewheng

[Elfenstar]

I have got videos of cyclist blatantly crossing red lights as well and riding when there is a moving motorised vehicle to their left (clear offence for them).

 

TP charging motorist for not keeping to 1.5 meters beside a cyclist? This is new. So, all cyclist now carries video cameras just like cars already.

 

I have pictures and video's of cyclists not crossing red lights (just to prove a point to some who said that all cyclists beat red lights).

 

Also cyclists can ride with vehicles on their left if they are overtaking or going into a right turn lane to turn right.

 

TP doesn't charge for not keeping to 1.5meters. It doesn't have to be that figure can be less can be more depending on the situation. They charge for inconsiderate driving. Technically drivers can do the same for motorcyclists who lane split or overtake too closely, etc

[Topspin]

Simple. Bicycles do not pollute. Car's do. And no, cyclists will not be penalised as long as they are in a single file.

 

I don't think "single file" exist in the vocabulary of those cyclist in fancy attire and sunglasses. They will claim it is their right to cycle in any configuration they want....but all it takes is one drunk truck driver to challenge that "rights".

[Topspin]

Also cyclists can ride with vehicles on their left if they are overtaking or going into a right turn lane to turn right.

 

Are you sure about this? I dread to think that I have to jam brake to give way for a cyclist suddenly appearing on the outer most lane because he was trying to get to the right most lane in a 3 lane road (e.g. Bt Timah) to exit at a right side junction. There would be pandemonium on the road!