COE issue

[Maseratigood]

 

2016 is erections....

 

to build good will amongst the peasants from 2015 onwards should see a downtrend in coe.

 

so as to prevent it from being a election issue.

 

Moral of the 'story':- if the buyer is keen to avoid paying thru his nose, good time to buy a car will be within 6-7 months before GE!!! .....

 

may even go up higher you know. Confidence to the future! You very sure it will drop just to appease certain segments of the population. If COE is too low, what will happen to those who have paid at high COE? Not happy also right? It's like raiding the owner's assets. [laugh]

 

If need car, buy now. If want to and can afford to change, change now. Else, do nothing. That's the only way COE can stabilize. Don't understand why some people kpkb about high COE and cannot change car when their cars is only 4-5 years old relatively fault-free.

 

yours is an interesting view / prediction on how voting can be affected by high / low COE prices... same for property prices i guess

Edited December 2, 2013 by Maseratigood

[Maseratigood]

Yep, just like flats, they control the supply. So when demand is low, they can simply make supply even lower to maintain high price.

 

Actually, govt has nothing to lose but lots to gain when property market shoots up:- for a start, land sales to developers by govt will reap billions dollars of profit as developers will bid high riding on bullish market

 

who then will end up supporting the bullish market by paying thru their noses? buyers, you and I, and young couples who just started working and dont have lich parents

 

foreigners can push up highend market and the chain reactions will bring up prices in lower end markets even ECs! the same foreigners will dump and run when they smell something bad, leaving the locals to pick up the pieces

 

how our ever wise govt regulates the market or leaves all things to 'market forces' will affect many lives of the local population

 

Even the death of "someone" cannot dictate COE price.

 

Only economy n how many COEs r avaliable at the time wil decide how much we pay for it.

 

But now seems gharmen wil "tweak" the qty now n then to keep the price high, unless ty wan the price to come down. Then ty just "tweak" the qty again to bring it down.

 

COE has stopped being a Free Market System to control the number of cars on our roads. With all the "tweaking" being done, how can it still b a Free Market System?

 

when they say its free, its "FREE".... understand or not? hahahahahaha

Edited December 2, 2013 by Maseratigood

[Baal]

 

Actually, govt has nothing to lose but lots to gain when property market shoots up:- for a start, land sales to developers by govt will reap billions dollars of profit as developers will bid high riding on bullish market

 

who then will end up supporting the bullish market by paying thru their noses? buyers, you and I, and young couples who just started working and dont have lich parents

 

foreigners can push up highend market and the chain reactions will bring up prices in lower end markets even ECs! the same foreigners will dump and run when they smell something bad, leaving the locals to pick up the pieces

 

how our ever wise govt regulates the market or leaves all things to 'market forces' will affect many lives of the local population

 

+ earn from fees on paper work since its % based.?

[Pisces69]

Yep, just like flats, they control the supply. So when demand is low, they can simply make supply even lower to maintain high price.

 

Our gharmen manipulate almost everything here. Always to their advantage. We r usually the losers.

 

2016 is erections....

 

to build good will amongst the peasants from 2015 onwards should see a downtrend in coe.

 

so as to prevent it from being a election issue.

 

My COE expire in early 2016. Thats why I still got hope for a lower COE price in 2016.

 

may even go up higher you know. Confidence to the future! You very sure it will drop just to appease certain segments of the population. If COE is too low, what will happen to those who have paid at high COE? Not happy also right? It's like raiding the owner's assets. [laugh]

 

If need car, buy now. If want to and can afford to change, change now. Else, do nothing. That's the only way COE can stabilize. Don't understand why some people kpkb about high COE and cannot change car when their cars is only 4-5 years old relatively fault-free.

 

Usually when COE drops, those who bought high wil just scrap their cars to get back the high price n use it to buy a new n cheaper car.

 

Thats what has been happening all along.

 

when they say its free, its "FREE".... understand or not? hahahahahaha

 

Something like when shops have offer.....Buy 1 get 1 free.

 

But the free one u r actually paying for it cos the price has been adjusted higher to include the price of the "free" item.

[Maseratigood]

 

Our gharmen manipulate almost everything here. Always to their advantage. We r usually the losers.

 

 

My COE expire in early 2016. Thats why I still got hope for a lower COE price in 2016.

 

 

Usually when COE drops, those who bought high wil just scrap their cars to get back the high price n use it to buy a new n cheaper car.

 

Thats what has been happening all along.

 

 

Something like when shops have offer.....Buy 1 get 1 free.

 

But the free one u r actually paying for it cos the price has been adjusted higher to include the price of the "free" item.

Dont forget to factor in the ministers' salaries, plus their headcount! For a country of our size, we have many more ministers, 2nd, 3rd ministers per 1,000,000 citizens compared with other countries!! Edited December 2, 2013 by Maseratigood

[Solar]

Dont forget to factor in the ministers' salaries, plus their headcount! For a country of our size, we have many more ministers, 2nd, 3rd ministers per 1,000,000 citizens compared with other countries!!

U forgot to mention ministers of state and secretaries.. not the usual chiobu type but the lau ah peh permanent types...

 

Many many layers of fat to feed..

[Knoobie]

Actually I don't think COE will drop when 2016/2017 comes where alot people have to scrap their cars.

 

I got 2 main reason.

 

1. If drop, their bonus also dropped! If you, you want meh?

2. We need to control the amount of cars. So if drop, more cars.. then not effective liao.

 

so next GE is my closest bet that it may be a "cooling measure" for the COE. otherwise, i foresee the COE will always stay or go even higher.

Dont forget to factor in the ministers' salaries, plus their headcount! For a country of our size, we have many more ministers, 2nd, 3rd ministers per 1,000,000 citizens compared with other countries!!

Don't know why you tio junk I praise you back. but I agree with what you're saying.

 

We have the highest paid ministers in the world. not even highest paid minister per ratio of population.

 

If our govt can complain say HDB losing money when building flats, then imagine no COE country bankrupt? you may say different funds. but afterall, who's pocket is it?

Edited December 3, 2013 by Knoobie

[Maseratigood]

U forgot to mention ministers of state and secretaries.. not the usual chiobu type but the lau ah peh permanent types...

 

Many many layers of fat to feed..

Yes! Maybe they are trying to use quantity to overcome the lack of quality

Actually I don't think COE will drop when 2016/2017 comes where alot people have to scrap their cars.

 

I got 2 main reason.

 

1. If drop, their bonus also dropped! If you, you want meh?

2. We need to control the amount of cars. So if drop, more cars.. then not effective liao.

 

so next GE is my closest bet that it may be a "cooling measure" for the COE. otherwise, i foresee the COE will always stay or go even higher.

Don't know why you tio junk I praise you back. but I agree with what you're saying.

 

We have the highest paid ministers in the world. not even highest paid minister per ratio of population.

 

If our govt can complain say HDB losing money when building flats, then imagine no COE country bankrupt? you may say different funds. but afterall, who's pocket is it?

 

It seems the COE revenues can be use to prop up the salaries of these people so that with such high salaries, they feel they gain more respect despite so-so performance if any at all

 

In short, COE is a necessary stream of income for some important purpose such as this. COE should stay!!!

 

[Yhn]

 

 

 

Even my previous COE car I found an improvement in engine smoothness, power n FC when I DIY the grounding. Thats why I did it for my Optra also.

 

Anyway cost is only abt $5 n no need to do any maintenence, just install n leave it, so just do lah.

 

It does no harm anyway.

 

BTW now Im getting abt 14km/lit on average.

 

Hi Pisces

 

would you give us some tips on how DIY grounding is done, if it's not trade secret.

 

Thanks a lot

 

yhn

[Pisces69]

Hi Pisces

 

would you give us some tips on how DIY grounding is done, if it's not trade secret.

 

Thanks a lot

 

yhn

 

No secret.

 

I just buy heavy duty copper wire (same as used in household wiring) n the round lugs.

 

I just ground the engine block(this most important), throttle body, ECU, Autobox, Body near headlights/horn, AC compressor, Alternator(if u can access) n firewall.

 

I try to run seperate wires from all these points back to the battery - terminal.

[Chucky2007]

 

No secret.

 

I just buy heavy duty copper wire (same as used in household wiring) n the round lugs.

 

I just ground the engine block(this most important), throttle body, ECU, Autobox, Body near headlights/horn, AC compressor, Alternator(if u can access) n firewall.

 

I try to run seperate wires from all these points back to the battery - terminal.

bro Pisces, if you don't mind, can take picture and show so that noobs like me can learn a little how to DIY?

[Pisces69]

bro Pisces, if you don't mind, can take picture and show so that noobs like me can learn a little how to DIY?

 

I think there were many threads on Grounding in MCF b4 as several years back, this Grounding was very popular.

 

Maybe u can search n see if ty hv the pics u require?

 

U just make sure u attach the ground wires to metal parts of the things u wan to ground.

 

All cars r different so u got to see where u need to attach the wires based on the car u drive.

[Kangadrool]

 

may even go up higher you know. Confidence to the future! You very sure it will drop just to appease certain segments of the population. If COE is too low, what will happen to those who have paid at high COE? Not happy also right? It's like raiding the owner's assets. [laugh]

 

If need car, buy now. If want to and can afford to change, change now. Else, do nothing. That's the only way COE can stabilize. Don't understand why some people kpkb about high COE and cannot change car when their cars is only 4-5 years old relatively fault-free.

 

Ballless junker again! Junk w/o reason!

Edited December 4, 2013 by Kangadrool

[Throttle2]

 

Ballless junker again! Junk w/o reason!

Aiyoh, why bother with these kids

[Picanto]

i think the admin and mods need to relook at the junking system. all agree?

[Little_prince]

 

Ballless junker again! Junk w/o reason!

knn. I also kena junk for nothing. Lol. Fark it la. Dont bother. I upz u bro

[SLSAMG88]

 

Yes. From abt 2016 to 2019 there sud b many cars going for scrap n COE sud drop ..................unless the gharmen again steps in to "tweak" the system to keep COE price high.

 

Im waiting to see what happens as the time comes. During 2009, COE dropped to abt $7K IIRC. Keeping my fingers crossed.

 

I am also one of this group! Car to be scrapped in Jan 2018...but unlike you, I do not wish for COE to drop.

 

I hope to government continues to cut down on the COE quota - as China has shown, cars are a cancer to civil society. Bad for the environment and with more idiotic drivers, unsafe for everyone on the roads.

 

Less cars - more bicycles! Let's go back to China in the 1970s!

[Civic6228]

i think the admin and mods need to relook at the junking system. all agree?

 

I actually agree .... MCFrs should be given the right to "like" or unlike" the postings. I don't see a problem at all. We cannot expect everyone to agree with us right ?