Spring Moderator April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 I think U got our meaning wrong. We are at anfield. There is no way to park bus at anfield. Fans or lover it's just no way. Btw the main complain is time wasting from 1st min. Not the defensive tactics I would rather Pool park the bus at Anfield or elsewhere, get the point and have the destiny of the title in Pool's hands rather than now standing on high moral ground but with the title slipping away having lost, that's my point. With all due respect bro, you sound exactly like Wenger, holding on to his principles, being the neutral's favourite etc but with nothing to show. Martin Keown in his Daily Mail column mentioned Arsenal did the same under George Graham and we all know who Arsenal fans would prefer to be under esp after 9 fruitless years! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2615084/MARTIN-KEOWN-Chelsea-did-time-waste-against-Liverpool-Anfield-did-Arsenal-George-Graham.html ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcscot 5th Gear April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 Dear All LFC MCF Bros ... Have some faith! I believe that we can still do it after 24 years in the barren land. Have faith ... YNWA! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_lover Supercharged April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 Please do get me wrong, I am a Pool supporter for the longest time ... but credit must be given when it is due. Yes, I give credit to the chowsi players. Defensive masterclass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyfitms Twincharged April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 if ever pool comes face to face with a strong opponent like real madrid/ barca, i would prefer them playing their attacking game instead of parking the bus. This is just the beginning of a new era for liverpool, no need to be so hard up to sacrifice BR's vision for a point. The title will come, just a matter of time, if it is not going to be this season. The only time i'll approve of time wasting and parking buses is when pool takes a quick lead against chelski - just to see the look on JM's face! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_lover Supercharged April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 (edited) Dear All LFC MCF Bros ... Have some faith! I believe that we can still do it after 24 years in the barren land. Have faith ... YNWA! Not sure where you're coming from bro, but we not discussing whether we have faith or not. To me, this season has been a great success even if we lose the last 2 games (choy). Of course I rather we go out on a high note. We are discussing last Sunday's game and the meaning of "tactics" haha..... Edited April 29, 2014 by Kar_lover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTOT 1st Gear April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 It was obvious BR lost on tactics last Sunday. Chelsea came into the game with intent NOT TO LOSE by defending. BR's tactics was to go out for a win by attacking, and he lost out. He could have adopted a NOT TO LOSE and attack where opportunity allowed. The NOT TO LOSE tactic would have still controlled of their own destiny. As a neutral, I would love to see attacking football. But if one has to play ugly to secure the points to boost one's chance to secure the title, then in my view that would be the correct tactic.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 (edited) I would rather Pool park the bus at Anfield or elsewhere, get the point and have the destiny of the title in Pool's hands rather than now standing on high moral ground but with the title slipping away having lost, that's my point. With all due respect bro, you sound exactly like Wenger, holding on to his principles, being the neutral's favourite etc but with nothing to show. Martin Keown in his Daily Mail column mentioned Arsenal did the same under George Graham and we all know who Arsenal fans would prefer to be under esp after 9 fruitless years! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2615084/MARTIN-KEOWN-Chelsea-did-time-waste-against-Liverpool-Anfield-did-Arsenal-George-Graham.html U see, asernal do time wasting when 1-0 up. See the different? It was obvious BR lost on tactics last Sunday. Chelsea came into the game with intent NOT TO LOSE by defending. BR's tactics was to go out for a win by attacking, and he lost out. He could have adopted a NOT TO LOSE and attack where opportunity allowed. The NOT TO LOSE tactic would have still controlled of their own destiny. As a neutral, I would love to see attacking football. But if one has to play ugly to secure the points to boost one's chance to secure the title, then in my view that would be the correct tactic.. Depending on how u see it. You have the hindsight of the result to comment. The best for Liverpool was actually to win and not to draw. So obviously without hindsight it is more important to play for a win. A win will put Chelsea out of the race and Liverpool to secure at least 2nd placing. And Liverpool will still be leading man c by 3points. Meaning a draw and a win will see us through. And we might even end the season early. A draw will mean a fight to the last day where we have to win all the match. Without hindsight. The tactics will be to play for a win. Edited April 29, 2014 by Joseph22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 Not too long ago we have a Manager that would probably play like Jose ...... he will shut door once the team gets into a lead. Winning 1-0 is a still a win. If you look at teams that won the league in the past, they usually built on Strong defence. One other example is the Newcastle managed by Kevin Keegan .... attractive flowing football but they lost at the end. Please do get me wrong, I am a Pool supporter for the longest time ... but credit must be given when it is due. You are right. Thank goodness Houllier is not our manager anymore. I still remember the 2001 UEFA Cup when Pool played Barcelona and we put two banks of 4 to protect our goal and we got a 0-0 at the Camp Nou. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 You are right. Thank goodness Houllier is not our manager anymore. I still remember the 2001 UEFA Cup when Pool played Barcelona and we put two banks of 4 to protect our goal and we got a 0-0 at the Camp Nou. Pretty good period with some trophy to show. But I remember everyone is calling for his head because of his negative approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 Pretty good period with some trophy to show. But I remember everyone is calling for his head because of his negative approach. Its always nice to win a trophy and very nice to win 3 of them. But to be honest, Houllier's style was really boring and mind numbing to watch and I am saying this as a Liverpool supporter. Must be worse for neutral fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG_Myvi 1st Gear April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 Pretty good period with some trophy to show. But I remember everyone is calling for his head because of his negative approach. Ya...I recall those days under him. But I indeed enjoyed those period somehow. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 Ya...I recall those days under him. But I indeed enjoyed those period somehow. Iszi??? Are u sure u didn't want him sack??think back that era and speak with the honest mind. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryankoh 4th Gear April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 U see, asernal do time wasting when 1-0 up. See the different? Depending on how u see it. You have the hindsight of the result to comment. The best for Liverpool was actually to win and not to draw. So obviously without hindsight it is more important to play for a win. A win will put Chelsea out of the race and Liverpool to secure at least 2nd placing. And Liverpool will still be leading man c by 3points. Meaning a draw and a win will see us through. And we might even end the season early. A draw will mean a fight to the last day where we have to win all the match. Without hindsight. The tactics will be to play for a win. I think you sum it up perfectly. With the result known, some bros started to say we should play to draw. In actual fact, we should be heading to a draw until SG slip.... And if we get an early goal, it will be an entire different set of views. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG_Myvi 1st Gear April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 Iszi??? Are u sure u didn't want him sack??think back that era and speak with the honest mind. I swear....Houllier is one of my fav manager. I wanted Rafa's head more than anyone....dun ask me why. Personal preference....if u can recalled my long ago postings. Lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extinguisher 6th Gear April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 (edited) I swear....Houllier is one of my fav manager. I wanted Rafa's head more than anyone....dun ask me why. Personal preference....if u can recalled my long ago postings. Lol Even more than Roy Hodgson's? Edited April 29, 2014 by Extinguisher 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTOT 1st Gear April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 U see, Liverpool do time wasting at asernal not at anfield. See the different? Depending on how u see it. You have the hindsight of the result to comment. The best for Liverpool was actually to win and not to draw. So obviously without hindsight it is more important to play for a win. A win will put Chelsea out of the race and Liverpool to secure at least 2nd placing. And Liverpool will still be leading man c by 3points. Meaning a draw and a win will see us through. And we might even end the season early. A draw will mean a fight to the last day where we have to win all the match. Without hindsight. The tactics will be to play for a win. Agreed with you a win would be the ideal and one cannot always go for the ideal. It is risk management and go for the scenario that secures the best outcome to win the title eventually. Tactically, BR was aware that Chelsea would park bus and NOT to LOSE, and the risk of them scoring first on the counter. There is a difference going into the game NOT to LOSE but try to win vs GOING for a WIN. If it is the former, the worse outcome would still be a point, and still have control your own destiny. Liverpool would still be 5 points ahead and much much better chance to secure 2nd place. Yes there would still be pressure to win remaining 2 games to secure the title but the same pressure applies if not more to ManCity. The different is ManCity has to WIN ALL remaining games, and still no control of own destiny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG_Myvi 1st Gear April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 Even more than Roy Hodgson's? Sorry...I refering to longer era...not "part timer or stand-in" shit like him. Haha 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 (edited) Agreed with you a win would be the ideal and one cannot always go for the ideal. It is risk management and go for the scenario that secures the best outcome to win the title eventually. Tactically, BR was aware that Chelsea would park bus and NOT to LOSE, and the risk of them scoring first on the counter. There is a difference going into the game NOT to LOSE but try to win vs GOING for a WIN. If it is the former, the worse outcome would still be a point, and still have control your own destiny. Liverpool would still be 5 points ahead and much much better chance to secure 2nd place. Yes there would still be pressure to win remaining 2 games to secure the title but the same pressure applies if not more to ManCity. The different is ManCity has to WIN ALL remaining games, and still no control of own destiny. Did u watch the match??? Liverpool loss the first goal not on a counter. It was a slip a personal error which wasn't resulted from a counter. U speak as if Liverpool was going all out attack with no defend which is not true Sorry...I refering to longer era...not "part timer or stand-in" shit like him. Haha Confirm personal cause rafa actually have better win and better result compare to GH. Lol Edited April 29, 2014 by Joseph22 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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