Kar_lover Supercharged May 27, 2014 Share May 27, 2014 I think constructor champ will be decided long before the S'pore race that's for sure! Anyway no one really bothers about the constructor championship other than the car manufacturers themselves cos obviously it's a big bragging right, marketing boost etc. I'm rubbing my hands in glee over the 2 horse fight cos I miss the days of Prost v Senna and those other rivalries which made F1 such a joy to watch. Tired of the Vettel from starting lights to chequered flag lead all the way show. Utterly boring!!!! That's ironic considering that its pretty obvious that F1 is more "car" than "man" that determines the winner. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic May 27, 2014 Share May 27, 2014 of course la ... daniel riccardo is good example before move to redbull where got chance to go up podium now go up podium ... sibei big smile put hamilton or alonso to caterham and see whether they can go up podium ... lol That's ironic considering that its pretty obvious that F1 is more "car" than "man" that determines the winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator May 27, 2014 Share May 27, 2014 That's ironic considering that its pretty obvious that F1 is more "car" than "man" that determines the winner. You are partly right on that but in my books, I like to see 2 guys with the same equipment slugging it out cos this way we'll know who's the better driver all things being equal. With all due respect to Vettel, I don't really know if the wins of last few years was because he was a really good driver or cos he got a better car. Webber couldn't really challenge him partly cos of team orders whereas Merc seems to have "let the best man win" attitude. Last time, I used to follow the cars in F1 cos there were a few manufactures of the same standard so it was game on but last few years, it's always been 1 manufacturer being head and shoulders above the rest and coupled with team orders meant it was more of a procession. I hope Merc continues what they have been doing so we can at least see a proper race!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_lover Supercharged May 27, 2014 Share May 27, 2014 of course la ... daniel riccardo is good example before move to redbull where got chance to go up podium now go up podium ... sibei big smile put hamilton or alonso to caterham and see whether they can go up podium ... lol Yes exactly. So my point was that whilst the real competition actually happens at the "car" level, most ppl are interested in the "man" level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic May 27, 2014 Share May 27, 2014 the only solution is standardize engine ... then every team got equal chance to go up podium Yes exactly. So my point was that whilst the real competition actually happens at the "car" level, most ppl are interested in the "man" level. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_lover Supercharged May 27, 2014 Share May 27, 2014 You are partly right on that but in my books, I like to see 2 guys with the same equipment slugging it out cos this way we'll know who's the better driver all things being equal. With all due respect to Vettel, I don't really know if the wins of last few years was because he was a really good driver or cos he got a better car. Webber couldn't really challenge him partly cos of team orders whereas Merc seems to have "let the best man win" attitude. Yes agree with you. And I have no qualms to say it was obviously the car that got Vettel those championships. Just like the year that Button won with Brawn GP. They pulverised the competition out of nowhere cos they had some design advantage. And he is nowhere now. the only solution is standardize engine ... then every team got equal chance to go up podium A1 GP tried that but failed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic May 27, 2014 Share May 27, 2014 which means for the last 4 years ... daniel riccardo could have been the champion with redbull car ... Yes agree with you. And I have no qualms to say it was obviously the car that got Vettel those championships. Just like the year that Button won with Brawn GP. They pulverised the competition out of nowhere cos they had some design advantage. And he is nowhere now. A1 GP tried that but failed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega Turbocharged May 27, 2014 Author Share May 27, 2014 In F1, many times are right place at the right time in order to win the championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_lover Supercharged May 27, 2014 Share May 27, 2014 which means for the last 4 years ... daniel riccardo could have been the champion with redbull car ... Yeah man, you never know....as it is the argument of who is the GOAT (greatest of all time) for tennis is hard to argue (most would say Federer, some Nadal and a few maybe rod laver), for Formula 1 it would be impossible due to the car and ever changing technology and rules playing such a huge role. Driver is almost just a passenger. There was an article I saw yesterday that was saying drivers today rely so much on the information given by the pit you wonder who is really doing the racing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic May 27, 2014 Share May 27, 2014 by the way, in the old days the launch was control by the driver ... skill counts now launch is control by computer at the pitlane by the engineer ... Yeah man, you never know....as it is the argument of who is the GOAT (greatest of all time) for tennis is hard to argue (most would say Federer, some Nadal and a few maybe rod laver), for Formula 1 it would be impossible due to the car and ever changing technology and rules playing such a huge role. Driver is almost just a passenger. There was an article I saw yesterday that was saying drivers today rely so much on the information given by the pit you wonder who is really doing the racing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Turbocharged May 27, 2014 Share May 27, 2014 the only solution is standardize engine ... then every team got equal chance to go up podium actually no, Redbull is king of aero.. Newey is the god at redbull ;p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super7 Turbocharged May 28, 2014 Share May 28, 2014 by the way, in the old days the launch was control by the driver ... skill counts now launch is control by computer at the pitlane by the engineer ... Why not make it compulsory to turn off all driver-aids in the second half of each race to separate the boys from the men!??? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega Turbocharged June 8, 2014 Author Share June 8, 2014 Aisay. This time Ros take pole in Canada. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic June 8, 2014 Share June 8, 2014 rosberg, hamilton, vettel merc again to start from 1st row sianz... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega Turbocharged June 8, 2014 Author Share June 8, 2014 rosberg, hamilton, vettel merc again to start from 1st row sianz... You are wrong this time. :-) And congrats to Ric for his first career win! Massa really needs to bath with flowers water. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic June 8, 2014 Share June 8, 2014 (edited) yeah ... wake up in the morning and chop chop checkout f1.com this is the best result i can hope for break the silver arrow winning streak and put a new name on the list that could not be better than daniel ricciardo ... maiden win and look at that big smile ... priceless You are wrong this time. :-)And congrats to Ric for his first career win!Massa really needs to bath with flowers water. Edited June 8, 2014 by Wt_know 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichibawa 5th Gear June 9, 2014 Share June 9, 2014 Should see Hamilton race like mad in the next few races like when he had a 25 points deficit from Australian GP in order to match up to Rosberg's championship points. Merc has a MGU-K failure which mean they are 160HP down but to be able to come home second is just extraordinary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommisan 4th Gear June 9, 2014 Share June 9, 2014 It could have been a much better result for RBR if they were able to overtake Perez much earlier in the race. Surely, it would have been a 1-2 for RBR. I was very surprised how Rosberg was able to stay in the lead for so long despite much reduction in straight line top speed. If Perez's DRS was working, all the cars behind him would have passed Rosberg. However I must admit, Rosberg drove brilliantly, nursing his way through. The move by Massa on Perez could have been judged with better precision, the two impacts were extremely heavy. I was so relieved that neither Perez nor Massa was seriously injured. The rivalry between Rosberg and Hamilton will continue to grow. Hamilton stayed cool for the race, but his car setup and his driving style brought him to retirement. Why did the FIA have to make the brakes less effective by reducing the no. of pistons in the calipers and thinner brake disc? The output of the engine is essentially similar to previous year, yet rear brake effectiveness is reduced. Scuderia Ferrari really came into this season unprepared. No significant improvements at all with 1/3 of the season gone. Aero not the best, engine not the best, even with Alonso, he can't do much. Buck up or be sitting ducks (against mainly the two top teams and some strong contenders) for the rest of the season. ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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