Poorly conceived policy leading to messy implementaion

[Wt_know]

if you can't convince them confuse them ... sounds about right

 

I wanted to slap her face.....

 

she use the median omv as proof that it resulted in overall lower omv cars registered in cat a.

 

then I would pose back the question to her: why in the first place don't use omv as the spec to define cat A instead of bhp. isn't it always more effective to go towards the attribute you want to achieve?

 

if she wants to drink coffee, she should just order a coffee instead of asking to go to a coffee joint. it is true there is higher chance of finding coffee at coffee joints but there are also other food and beverage like tea and cakes served at coffee joint. is it more fun for scholars to go one circle instead of taking the direct route?

 

Edited August 1, 2014 by Wt_know

[Soya]

 

 

who is Helen lim?

 

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/helen-lim/35/472/742

 

Bro, not her direct fault lah. She's juz the corporate mouthpiece and not the policy maker. For all u know, she may oso kpkb at this silly policy but bo pian hv to do as part of her job. No need to CSI anyone for that.

[Acemundo]

 

Bro, not her direct fault lah. She's juz the corporate mouthpiece and not the policy maker. For all u know, she may oso kpkb at this silly policy but bo pian hv to do as part of her job. No need to CSI anyone for that.

haha true.....my apologies....

 

maybe I assumed she is senior rank and speaking on her own volition.

[Chowyunfatt]

 

 

U tink they gonna back off? WLL ah. Today LTA reply comprain on ST forum and still insist they are right abt this 130bhp joke.....

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/premium/forum-letters/story/cat-median-omv-down-almost-30-re-categorisation-20140801

 

 

 

Cat A median OMV down by almost 30% since re-categorisation

PUBLISHED ON AUG 1, 2014 1:30 AM

 

 

WE DISAGREE with Mr Tan Suan Jin's assertion that the addition of an engine power criterion in Category A has not improved the demarcation between premium and mass-market cars ("Reconsider engine power criterion for cars"; July 18).

From February, the engine power of Cat A cars should not exceed 97kW (or 130bhp), in addition to the existing criterion that their engine capacity should not exceed 1,600cc.

The additional criterion has resulted in a significant decrease of almost 30 per cent in the median open market value (OMV) of cars registered in Cat A over the past six months.

Correspondingly, there are also now more cars with lower OMV of up to $20,000 registered in Cat A.

To enforce the new criterion, the Land Transport Authority will conduct the maximum power output test on all first-of-its-kind models with maximum power output between 81kW and 97kW. These comprised around 14 per cent of Cat A applications last year.

Only a small proportion of the other applications may be randomly selected to undergo testing.

The processing cost for dealers per new car model is not significant relative to their overall pricing for new cars.

Helen Lim (Ms)

Director, Media Relations Land Transport Authority

 

 

This sentence very 够力 ... Its like saying, Your Mark Up so high ... So please don't complain ...

[Mockngbrd]

Helen Lim haven't kenna buah by German tank yet

[Baal]

by moving so called "luxury car" from Cat A to Cat B did not cause Cat B coe to skyrocket leh

Cat A vs Cat B COE difference is only $2111 ... less than 1/2 derisory

cheapo 130bhp limit car in Cat A targeted cheapo person to bid cheapo COE, aren't we expecting COE to be $20k? lol

 

the purpose of this 130bhp limit is to separate cheapo car to give higher chance for cheapo to buy right?

i'm cheapo but i cannnot afford $62k coe leh

 

omv down 30% ... but coe remain as $62k ... does that mean car buyer kena slapped again and again and again?

isn't lower omv should translate to lower car price but car price is highly dependent on coe !!!

 

 

 

a) Because car bookies are retaliating to the policy & bid accdly.

b) Yes.

 

This sentence very 够力 ... Its like saying, Your Mark Up so high ... So please don't complain ...

 

Bei Song that car bookie kup chwee to retaliate, so tit for tat ? lol

[Myxilplix]

Let's see how they deal with the Germans and FTA.

 

We kpkb they very clever to throw smokebomb or put their fingers in their ears and LALALALALAAAA!

[Acemundo]

 

 

This sentence very 够力 ... Its like saying, Your Mark Up so high ... So please don't complain ...

actually the complaint is not with cost even though if she tries to smoke us into believing it is.

 

that day when the big honcho of audi spoke, his grouse is with the waiting time/delay, distrust by LTA and the case against free trade agreement.

 

for the consumer level, the delay is unwarranted. not forgetting certain cars (like focus and jazz) that are on paper below 130bhp now run a risk of being taken out from Cat A after LTA dyno. and also other cars that are low in OMV but are higher in horse power also will be taken out from consumer list of cars can buy. instead of helping the consumer in cat A, they are limiting their choices of cars in cat a. end effect I believe it doesn't help the consumer at all, it only helps the car dealers of low power Japanese cars like vios, altis

[Chowyunfatt]

Helen Lim haven't kenna buah by German tank yet

 

 

 

Please do the honors ... With your German M Tank

[Waterh2o]

In the end, just tell what are a few choices of car that we can buy from the CAT A catagory and cheapo ppl like me will just choose from there lah. Not need to test lah hp 109, 110 or 118 I also take lah. Only need a economic car to move alround. The rest of the other cars put in CAT B for ppl who have more moolah to choose. Swee Bo

[Chowyunfatt]

actually the complaint is not with cost even though if she tries to smoke us into believing it is.

 

that day when the big honcho of audi spoke, his grouse is with the waiting time/delay, distrust by LTA and the case against free trade agreement.

 

for the consumer level, the delay is unwarranted. not forgetting certain cars (like focus and jazz) that are on paper below 130bhp now run a risk of being taken out from Cat A after LTA dyno. and also other cars that are low in OMV but are higher in horse power also will be taken out from consumer list of cars can buy. instead of helping the consumer in cat A, they are limiting their choices of cars in cat a. end effect I believe it doesn't help the consumer at all, it only helps the car dealers of low power Japanese cars like vios, altis

 

Its like the more they do ... The worse it becomes ... This is really embarrassing for them ...

[Wt_know]

kia picanto will soon be the best seller car in cat A? muahahaha

 

only by having kia picanto as best seller the scholar can claim victory cat A is for cheapo

[Ake109]

Typical SG govt style reply. Give an answer which distracts the people without addressing the point.

[Wt_know]

yalor ... why LTA change COE rule in the first place

 

because people complain

 

a. COE sky high

b. cheapo people cannot buy cheapo car such as toyota because too many conti in Cat A

c. Cat A (B&B) COE should be lower not heavily bidded where the rich can fight to death in Cat B (luxury)

 

then come up with a brilliant idea to limit Cat A to 130bhp but

 

a. COE still very high

b. conti come up with 122bhp turbo

c. sorry hor ... the dealer aint bid cheap ... they are merciless ... no $60k no talk

 

who ask about OMV median price from 130bhp question? muahahahahaha

lower OMV means the B&B car get from bone stock to even more bone stock ... may be left bone only

 

Typical SG govt style reply. Give an answer which distracts the people without addressing the point.

 

Edited August 1, 2014 by Wt_know

[Soya]

yalor ... why LTA change COE rule in the first place

 

because people complain

 

a. COE sky high

b. cheapo people cannot buy cheapo car such as toyota because too many conti

c. Cat A (B&B) COE should be lower not heavily bidded where the rich can fight to death in Cat B (luxury)

 

then come up with a brilliant idea to limit Cat A to 130bhp

 

a. COE still very high

b. conti come up with 122bhp turbo

c. sorry hor ... the dealer aint no bid cheap ... they are merciless ... no $60k no talk

 

 

 

 

Basically they are saying that leading German engineering at fault. Their paper engineering better.

[Wt_know]

ask about traffic congestion ... answer today weather is good

 

Basically they are saying that leading German engineering at fault. Their paper engineering better.

 

Edited August 1, 2014 by Wt_know

[Waterh2o]

Moral of the story? Do not ask for that you do not know what you are getting into.

[Super7]

 

Dont quite understand. If the ADs start the trend of bringing in <110hp for CAT A, instead of models bordering >110 to =<130, wouldnt that mean its the AD yielding to LTA instead?

The key issue is known luxury brands finding loop holes to disguise their non bread n butter models and take away cat A COEs.

Maybe like some bros have mentioned, just use OMV values to decide and allows only affordable B&B models to use cat A COEs.