Odyssey2011 5th Gear January 13, 2018 Share January 13, 2018 Company rich not me. But mine company policy all car must drive for 10 yrs. Pickuup/lorry beyond 10 yrs. Hahaha What do you mean by a minutes? Can explain? The stop start system? youtube this - Car Tech 101: Auto-start-stop explained (On Cars). My engine can always stop more than 1 minute. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator January 13, 2018 Share January 13, 2018 (edited) So from this, i don't see there is a major issue on reliability of the auto-stop-start, the auto-start-stop is only a smaller version to the hybrid car which also have frequent engine off and on every time. exactly....dunno wat the fuss over SS is all abt my ex F10, 5.3yrs, not one issue on it. No change in starter motor, engine, battery bla bla.....it is intended to work the way it is ppl need to revisit their old thinking. MCF had a session on this in 2014 i think, at Bosch in SM and they explained the issues well.... Edited January 13, 2018 by RadX Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic January 13, 2018 Share January 13, 2018 exactly....dunno wat the fuss over SS is all abt my ex F10, 5.3yrs, not one issues on it. No change in starter motor, engine, battery bla bla.....it is intended to work the way it is ppl need to revisit their old thinking. MCF had a session on this in 2014 i think, at Bosch in SM and they explained the issues well.... Is it??? Maybe need to conduct a session again to educate more drivers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator January 13, 2018 Share January 13, 2018 Is it??? Maybe need to conduct a session again to educate more drivers. can you teach a cow to climb a tree? this thing discussed ad nauseum until i sianz ....gotta wait for the generation of drivers to go Mandai then maybe wiill change also for engine warm up 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic January 13, 2018 Share January 13, 2018 youtube this - Car Tech 101: Auto-start-stop explained (On Cars). My engine can always stop more than 1 minute. I see. Mine still able to stop for the duration of traffic light. Good or bad? Anyway I hardly used. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic January 13, 2018 Share January 13, 2018 So from this, i don't see there is a major issue on reliability of the auto-stop-start, the auto-start-stop is only a smaller version to the hybrid car which also have frequent engine off and on every time. hybrid is a totally different system. not quite the same to compare apple to orange. they use a motor-gen and other sophisticated system. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnahp Turbocharged January 13, 2018 Share January 13, 2018 Hybrid already works like this. Foot off pedal, coasting, slowing down (or braking), engine is cut off, battery is charged (by regen braking). That's why you don't see stop-start advertised in hybrid, it's already part of the engine system. my car has a smart alternator though it is not a hybrid car, it will take those energy wasting opportunities like you mentioned to charge the battery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnahp Turbocharged January 13, 2018 Share January 13, 2018 So from this, i don't see there is a major issue on reliability of the auto-stop-start, the auto-start-stop is only a smaller version to the hybrid car which also have frequent engine off and on every time.most of the current ASS equiped engine still using the old fashion starter to crank the engine, the process is very crude comparing to the hybrid engine The next generation ASS will use a starter/generator combo that replace both the starter motor and alternator and works like a smaller version of hybrid car like you mentioned 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey2011 5th Gear January 13, 2018 Share January 13, 2018 (edited) most of the current ASS equiped engine still using the old fashion starter to crank the engine, the process is very crude comparing to the hybrid engine The next generation ASS will use a starter/generator combo that replace both the starter motor and alternator and works like a smaller version of hybrid car like you mentioned The full technical explanation of why you don't need to worry about starter motors wearing out prematurely due to start-stop systems. https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1109687_dont-start-stop-systems-wear-out-your-cars-starter They had shown an old Ford 2012, and had mentioned the system don't use 'traditional' starter motors at least many years ago. Can share with us which car maker and model in Singapore is still using that traditional starter motors? Edited January 13, 2018 by Odyssey2011 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipkee Twincharged May 7, 2018 Share May 7, 2018 So wanna ask. Is the start stop system similar to a manual car stalling at every stop? Just curious cos the salesman say no damage will be done to the car with each start stop but I dunno if it's sales talk or something else. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator May 7, 2018 Share May 7, 2018 can you teach a cow to climb a tree? this thing discussed ad nauseum until i sianz ....gotta wait for the generation of drivers to go Mandai then maybe wiill change also for engine warm up Need I say more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic May 7, 2018 Share May 7, 2018 So wanna ask. Is the start stop system similar to a manual car stalling at every stop? Just curious cos the salesman say no damage will be done to the car with each start stop but I dunno if it's sales talk or something else. Correct,for Mazda case,no need Starter Motor....even for Cars that need Starter ,the Starters already "Beef" up for this purpose. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic May 8, 2018 Share May 8, 2018 (edited) Don't really care about the life span of the SS components, or the fuel savings if any.... I just hate the "shiver" each "start" transmit into the cabin. Had the GS450h, the SS is built-in to the hybrid system. Cannot even choose to disable the function. Even with the excellent lexus soundproofing and body damping, can still feel the shiver. Drove it for 6yrs, got so used to the shiver, when i changed car that allows to disable the SS, it is heaven sent. Edited May 8, 2018 by Vratenza 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator May 8, 2018 Share May 8, 2018 Don't really care about the life span of the SS components, or the fuel savings if any.... I just hate the "shiver" each "start" transmit into the cabin. Had the GS450h, the SS is built-in to the hybrid system. Cannot even choose to disable the function. Even with the excellent lexus soundproofing and body damping, can still feel the shiver. Drove it for 6yrs, got so used to the shiver, when i changed car that allows to disable the SS, it is heaven sent. After u pee u no shiver? Haaaaaa 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic May 8, 2018 Share May 8, 2018 My Pee system uprated components.. ... Shiver disabled. After u pee u no shiver? Haaaaaa 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrianli Hypersonic May 8, 2018 Share May 8, 2018 My Pee system uprated components.. ... Shiver disabled. Does yours have a memory or have to disable it every time you start the car? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic May 8, 2018 Share May 8, 2018 Mine is disabled from factory.... oh... you mean my car? It is programmed into my customized drive mode profile. I still have to toggle it to my preferred drive mode each time I start the car after 4hrs. - Sports engine/transmission - Sports steering - ASS OFF - Aircon Comfort Now is second nature... Does yours have a memory or have to disable it every time you start the car? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrianli Hypersonic May 8, 2018 Share May 8, 2018 Thanks. Then my car better. Got memory function. Havent touched the button eversince I switched the ASS off. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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