VES 2018

[DACH]

Correct

Edited March 21, 2017 by DACH

[Leo22]

Spoke to a close fren from LTA. Didnt divulge much but i was 'advised' to forget abt diesel cars even before 2018 b4 VES kicked in cos the hammer will drop harder on them in years to come. The AD may reduce the prices by a lot but the increase taxations in pipelines will cost more in long run. That is so much he is willing to say.

 

ä¸°ç° will be the fav 2 words

Totally agree. Same applies to petrol version, even though getting those cannot meet bar before next year can avoid the initial surcharge, but after years of usage the emission will be measured again. At that time can't imagine what scheme will be introduced for running car. Most likely emissions from this group will not be as good as those qualified for rebate in new. Unless plan to drive a couple years then change new car.

[Spidey10]

Totally agree. Same applies to petrol version, even though getting those cannot meet bar before next year can avoid the initial surcharge, but after years of usage the emission will be measured again. At that time can't imagine what scheme will be introduced for running car. Most likely emissions from this group will not be as good as those qualified for rebate in new. Unless plan to drive a couple years then change new car.

So means, as Long as u hv a car... u r screwed!!

Irregardless of diesel or petrol!!

Now that's more like it!

But what about cars and bikes from up north?

[Leo22]

So means, as Long as u hv a car... u r screwed!!

Irregardless of diesel or petrol!!

Now that's more like it!

But what about cars and bikes from up north?

That one let cashcard deduction at causeway/tuas to take care :)

[Spidey10]

That one let cashcard deduction at causeway/tuas to take care :)

Triple the price!! Edited March 21, 2017 by Spidey10

[Perspectivism]

With stricter inspections for vehicular emissions, does this mean it makes even less sense to upkeep COE cars? Or to even renew COEs?

[Leo22]

So means, as Long as u hv a car... u r screwed!!

Irregardless of diesel or petrol!!

Now that's more like it!

But what about cars and bikes from up north?

Hope some studies on gas emissions from cars after using for a few years can be available asap and how is the scheme structure going to be like.

Understand different cars have different rate of usage and condition, but early sample size is good enough for some indication on the performances after a few years comparing different models.

Triple the price!!ð­ð­ truely the most expensive ct in the world!!

Well, different story was given, no longer going green or not. Reasons can be as lame/childish as if they don't go it to their neighbor further north, then why on SG? so SG also need impose.

 

End result still the same. $$$$ go into pocket.

[DACH]

With stricter inspections for vehicular emissions, does this mean it makes even less sense to upkeep COE cars? Or to even renew COEs?

As long as the car undergoes regular servicing, you don't have to worry too much about the inspection.

Like that can also help to avoid breakdowns, expensive repairs and risk of fire to the minimum.

[therock]

Had a chat with a PI friend yesterday, for many car companies with no alternative engines, the entire conversation with him can be summarised as :

(game over man... )

[Carbon82]

Not true that it will be game over for some ADs. Take Renault for example, although their current lineup are almost 100% diesel, they do have petrol variants (130TCe & 160TCe) that will still fall into the neutural band when VES kick in next year.

[therock]

That depends on how much they will charge for these cars.

If the pricing is far higher than the diesel options, they will compared against cars which are more popular.

They are competing on price.

Even the popular BMW 116d is competing on price. Take 15k away and add 10-15k and no one will want it at that price.

[inlinesix]

Heck with all these taxes.

 

Buy this:

http://www.bmwblog.com/2017/03/21/2017-bmw-alpina-d4-facelift-new-look-power-diesel/

 

 

 

On the technical side, the BMW ALPINA D4 Facelift Coupé and Convertible will continue to be powered by a 3.0-liter in-line six-turbo diesel engine – 350 hp and a maximum torque of 700 Newton Meter. The engine will make the D4, together with its twin technology D3, the strongest midclass diesel in the world and eliminate all doubts about the self-sufficiency of the self-ignition.

[DACH]

That depends on how much they will charge for these cars.

If the pricing is far higher than the diesel options, they will compared against cars which are more popular.

They are competing on price.

Even the popular BMW 116d is competing on price. Take 15k away and add 10-15k and no one will want it at that price.

I doubt will be far higher. Probably a few thousands more rather than tens of thousands.

[leehock13828]

What do u mean by hammer will drop harder on them. Do you mean yr lta friend is implying that diesel owners will be taxed additionally throughout their ownership ?

I think we should not make a decision or fear cos of a hearsay rumor

[Carbon82]

With VES scheme affecting many car make and model, there are going to be a big price change for new cars come Jan 2018 (or rather by end of 2017). A perceived bread and butter ride such as Mazda 3 may be priced $15K or more than current just because it will attract a $10K surcharge (in contrast to $5K rebate).

 

In this case, when the price of say a petrol driven Megane increase also by $15K (it is currently enjoying at rebate of ~$15K and new petrol version will be in neutral band), everything will be equal again.

 

End of the day, the real loser in the whole exercise will only be consumer like us. Mind you, not just car buyer / owner, but everyone of us will be hit when transport and other cost start to goes up... Remember the mouse trap story?

Edited March 22, 2017 by Carbon82

[Mockngbrd]

COE will drop arnot

[Carhorn]

Hey guys. I am not saying it is gospel truth, just sharing among fellow car owners what i am told by a steady fren of 27 yrs.

 

Like i say, he hinted.

 

How much credibility? I ever said i work in a bank in one of my prev posts. He asked me to secure car loan at preferential rate (fren fren rate) for him. That is how the conversation starts over a meal.

Edited March 22, 2017 by Carhorn

[Axela72]

I think we should not make a decision or fear cos of a hearsay rumor

If priced too high, current left over consumer will not be able to afford. So AD unable to up price in parallel with the new rule. Only way is the cut down their margin/profit. Isnt that is what some folk here hoping?

 

Note: These folk buy car base on comparing how high the premium earn by AD