VES 2018

[Spring]

I have a feeling LTA may tweak the VES at year end....just my hunch...dont quote me lol

 

It would be unlike LTA to announce something for next year and then move goalposts when the date gets nearer cos this one no joke as the whole planning on what cars to bring etc is a massive exercise in which dealers have to negotiate with their principals in advance so whilst I do hope they relax the VES or at least make it more palatable, I seriously doubt so, my 2 cents........ 

[Perspectivism]

Good luck to all 2001 coe cars

Because those 2001 and younger cars are affected by stricter inspection standards?

 

So those older than 2001 are spared?

[Mockngbrd]

Because those 2001 and younger cars are affected by stricter inspection standards?

 

So those older than 2001 are spared?

 

yup     .

[RCTP]

I foresee flintstone cars running on the road of Singapore in the future. Haha.

 

Yabadabadoo!!

Edited March 27, 2017 by RCTP

[Eteo66]

Hi friends,

 

I just saw this on the LTA website regarding the VES bandings:

 

https://www.lta.gov.sg/content/ltaweb/en/roads-and-motoring/owning-a-vehicle/costs-of-owning-a-vehicle/tax-structure-for-cars.html

 

 

Is there a list showing which bands current cars will fall into?  I will be interested to know.  Thanks bros

[Lordmazex]

Hi friends,

 

I just saw this on the LTA website regarding the VES bandings:

 

https://www.lta.gov.sg/content/ltaweb/en/roads-and-motoring/owning-a-vehicle/costs-of-owning-a-vehicle/tax-structure-for-cars.html

 

 

Is there a list showing which bands current cars will fall into?  I will be interested to know.  Thanks bros

 

Do a search. There is a similar discussion already.

 

Attached here for you.

 

http://www.mycarforum.com/topic/2685679-cevs/page-16

[Eteo66]

Do a search. There is a similar discussion already.

 

Attached here for you.

 

http://www.mycarforum.com/topic/2685679-cevs/page-16

 

I did do a search.  That topic is on CEVS, not VEHS.

 

My specific question is what cars will be in the different bandings in the new VEHS banding categories.  The discussion you pointed me to does not answer that question hence I started this topic.

[Lordmazex]

I did do a search.  That topic is on CEVS, not VEHS.

 

My specific question is what cars will be in the different bandings in the new VEHS banding categories.  The discussion you pointed me to does not answer that question hence I started this topic.

 

Just read through the thread first.

[Eteo66]

Just read through the thread first.

 

I have bro.  Thanks for your help and taking the time.

[Soya]

This VES implementation damn kok. No official banding from LTA yet but the ADs oredi take opportunity to use VES as a scare monger tactic to move sales.

[Currahee]

Are the current cars in market already Euro6 compliant? Sep onwards petrol cars sold need to be rite?

[Blueray]

NEA clarifies rules for car emission scheme

 

 

Barely two months after it announced a new emission scheme that takes into account five pollutants a car produces, the Government said some models will be exempted from one of the pollutant readings.

 

In response to queries from The Sunday Times, the National Environment Agency said yesterday petrol models with port fuel injection - where fuel is injected just before the engine's combustion chamber - will not be measured for particulate matter (fine soot).

 

The exemption will apply when the Euro 6 emission standard kicks in in September and when the Vehicular Emissions Scheme starts in January.

 

"All petrol port fuel injection (PFI) vehicles are exempted from particulate matter and particle number limits under Euro 6 emission standards," a spokesman said, adding that the agency will also accept Japan's JPN2009 standard - the country's closest equivalent to Euro 6.

 

"As PFI vehicles are not tested for particulate matter, they are not banded based on particulate matter emissions under the Vehicular Emissions Scheme."

 

Instead, they will be banded according to the other four tailpipe components - carbon dioxide, hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide and nitrogen oxides, the NEA said.

 

 

It added that the European Commission had stated that the level of particle emission from port fuel injection engines "is low".

 

"The EC may review this and propose further regulatory measures," an NEA spokesman said, adding that NEA would "continue to monitor international developments".

 

Meanwhile, the exemption is likely to benefit the majority of Japanese and some Korean cars, and could give them an edge over equivalent European models in terms of how they are taxed. Toyota's and Mitsubishi's line-ups for instance, are all port fuel injected, as well as half of Honda's line-up, and some Hyundai models.

 

The German brands typically lean towards direct injection, where fuel is injected directly into the combustion chamber. Compared to port fuel injection, this method is more fuel-efficient, but tends to produce more particulate matter.

 

Singapore Vehicle Traders Association first vice-president Raymond Tang said the exemption is good news for parallel importers, who tend to bring in more Japanese cars.

 

But checks revealed that some Japanese domestic models - which parallel importers bring in - are direct injected models. Hence these will be measured for particulate matter, and may not comply with Euro 6 standards because of that.

 

In fact, The Sunday Times understands several Japanese models which were recently tested for Euro 6 compliance here had failed.

 

Mr Neo Nam Heng, chairman of diversified motor group Prime, said the port fuel injection exemption is "good news because it means more models will now qualify for tax rebates".

 

But he added that "it does not mean all direct injection models will automatically fail".

 

Before the exemption, none of the 11 random models sampled by The Straits Times in March qualified for a tax break under Vehicular Emissions Scheme.

 

Meanwhile, an executive from a major German manufacturer said "there's no logic" for the exemption.

 

"Generally, port injection is not the most efficient way," he said. "So excusing it is basically undermining the supposed intent of cleaning up the air."

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/nea-clarifies-rules-for-car-emission-scheme

[flashbang]

It would be unlike LTA to announce something for next year and then move goalposts when the date gets nearer cos this one no joke as the whole planning on what cars to bring etc is a massive exercise in which dealers have to negotiate with their principals in advance so whilst I do hope they relax the VES or at least make it more palatable, I seriously doubt so, my 2 cents........ 

 

Typo? Last minute goal post shifting by LTA would be no surprise to me, the govt is well known for it... The post above already shows the first step taken.

[Eyke]

Typo? Last minute goal post shifting by LTA would be no surprise to me, the govt is well known for it... The post above already shows the first step taken.

 

this one is ok coz is opening goal wider 

[inlinesix]

Typo? Last minute goal post shifting by LTA would be no surprise to me, the govt is well known for it... The post above already shows the first step taken.

 

1st step of goal shifting?

[ER-3682]

LTA  needed to 'relax' because too many Models of B&B cars cannot make the standard,alot of Dealers are    ....

[No_worries]

It follows a local Chinese media article on this issue earlier this week.

 

Key points to note from the article:

 

i) Implementation of Euro 6 emission standards will happen on Sep 2017 as was announced by NEA in 2014. Cars registered after on or after Sep 2017 must meet Euro 6 emission standard.

 

ii) Car dealer are worried as they have existing stock on hand which may not meet the Euro 6 standard. And they are worried come Sep 2017, there may not be enough Euro 6 compliant stock to satisfy demand and may affect COE prices.

 

iii) A few parallel importers recently sent a batch of cars for testing and it is understood models such as Toyota Estima and Dyna failed the emission test. If they cannot meet the actual emission test, it is highly likely they cannot be registered in Singapore.

 

iv) A Mr Huang (rep from Kah Motor) was quoted as saying the Honda Mobilio does not meet the Euro 6 standard, Kah Motor has stopped importing this model. A check on sgcarmart.com.sg shows this is true (http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_overview.php?CarCode=11652) as the Mobilio is unavailable since Apr 2017. In my opinion, I find that this is a pity as the Mobilio is a seven seater and was first showcased in Singapore Motor Show 2015 and it is a pity in just 2 years, it has disappeared from our local motoring scene.

 

v) Various car distributors are trying their very best to clear existing stock (non Euro 6 compliant)

 

Edited May 21, 2017 by No_worries

[Wt_know]

so LTA core objective is to protect dealers?

 

LTA  needed to 'relax' because too many Models of B&B cars cannot make the standard,alot of Dealers are    ....