COE Bidding – 1st Round of March 2018

[Zxcvb]

 

2      The VES will assess vehicles on four additional pollutants - hydrocarbons (HC), carbon monoxide (CO), nitrogen oxides (NOx), and particulate matter (PM) - in addition to carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions. The VES rebate or surcharge for the vehicle will be determined by the worst-performing pollutant of the five being assessed. This is to encourage buyers to choose models that have lower emissions across all five pollutants.

3      All vehicles registered from 1 January to 30 June 2018 will be exempted from the PM criteria under the VES. This is to give motor dealers more time to submit PM emissions information for assessment under the VES[1]. All vehicles registered from 1 July 2018 will be assessed on all five pollutants. Please refer to Annex A for the VES banding rebates and surcharges, and bands of examples of common car models under the VES.

 

 

Actually VES has already kicked in. Except the PM (particulate matter) not assess till 1 July.

[Linusss]

And the Borneo Motors Wish price keeps going up! They just updated their price list based on today's COE. The Wish price went up by about $4K even though the CAT B didn't change much. A Standard Wish is now $113K! But the Sienta price didn't change even though CAT A went up by $2K. It is still $92K.

[DACH]

And the Borneo Motors Wish price keeps going up! They just updated their price list based on today's COE. The Wish price went up by about $4K even though the CAT B didn't change much. A Standard Wish is now $113K! But the Sienta price didn't change even though CAT A went up by $2K. It is still $92K.

Are they trying to push Sienta Sales?

[iphone8]

And the Borneo Motors Wish price keeps going up! They just updated their price list based on today's COE. The Wish price went up by about $4K even though the CAT B didn't change much. A Standard Wish is now $113K! But the Sienta price didn't change even though CAT A went up by $2K. It is still $92K.

 

Try not to benchmark with Wish. Wish is becoming classic car soon.

Haha...

 

I think BM would slowly increase Wish price to $120k and give way to Prius Alpha which may sell at $130K above.

[kennyng82]

one minimestar oredy say mar......the days of coe fluke results are over.....he said they already have a system in placed to prevent such a scenario......

Last 15 mins flood few bids to push price up if below 36000. This system can be worked so Long as the bid number more than the Quota. Won't surprise on this, gov has warned to raise gst in the future, if here short of another 2-3billion, where gov can find money from?

It wonât go any lower. When it drop a few K, a pool of buyer will pounce to buy or change car.....the $90K, $80K COE people waiting only. More and more enbloc people getting their cheque already. With Jun VES coming, people will be buying these few months before the window close. Many COE cars are also waiting to change once COE is ârightâ. With zero growth and people renewing COE, supply wonât increase.

Now demand for cars a little soft, if the car you are eying will get VES surcharge, consider buying before Jun.

If the car you want will not get VES surcharge, wait till after Jun. With VES, most car prices increase, demand for cars will drop, then COE drop, then u buy......no VES, yet lower COE, your car will be cheaper.

 

 

You want COE to drop substantially, need to wait for recession. You want COE to plunge, need to wait for Global crisis. Just be patient. And when crisis comes and everyone is pulling back, you must have the guts to spend. Stock market will be one of the lead indicator of COE direction.

just the matter of times, how high can Dow and Nasdaq go further? Not up just down, no down just up, nothing can be stagnant unless interference from gov.

[Evillusion]

Last 15 mins flood few bids to push price up if below 36000. This system can be worked so Long as the bid number more than the Quota. Won't surprise on this, gov has warned to raise gst in the future, if here short of another 2-3billion, where gov can find money from?

just the matter of times, how high can Dow and Nasdaq go further? Not up just down, no down just up, nothing can be s tagnant unless interference from gov.

last few minutes flood is normal because these are serious buyers.......you want to manipulate......just need to place 200-300 bids earlier with very low reserve price, confirm wont get the bid......but the price of coe will increase because of the finite number of coe available. They use my ic number i also wont know and most bidding are by middleman....layers upon layers of screen......tio bor?

[CH_CO]

Personally I find it funny, they mentioned zero growth for cars, doesn't it also mean that our own economy is having low or almost zero growth?

 

With more and more significant income gap and lesser jobs for many. In fact, despite the amount of effort made by the garment to improve the employment numbers for locals, it is still forcing people to turn to uber or grab.

 

So where is the sustainable factor

supporting the car prices? The Ads or the car rental companies? Garmen fear lack of income, if a economy is growing well why that fear? Unless it is not.

 

Looking at how much foreign investment, we currently have, it will be a rough ride ahead if we do not think of other things to do.

 

Most of the investment initiatives are coming from the garmen. We are even charged additional for the new terminal when we do not really need it.

 

Good in internal fights because they have majority but let people bully outside lol haiz

 

 

How to have cheaper coe when the garmen needs more money?

Edited March 8, 2018 by CH_CO

[DACH]

Personally I find it funny, they mentioned zero growth for cars, doesn't it also mean that our own economy is having low or almost zero growth?

 

With more and more significant income gap and lesser jobs for many. In fact, despite the amount of effort made by the garment to improve the employment numbers for locals, it is still forcing people to turn to uber or grab.

 

So where is the sustainable factor

supporting the car prices? The Ads or the car rental companies? Garmen fear lack of income, if a economy is growing well why that fear? Unless it is not.

 

Looking at how much foreign investment, we currently have, it will be a rough ride ahead if we do not think of other things to do.

 

Most of the investment initiatives are coming from the garmen. We are even charged additional for the new terminal when we do not really need it.

 

Good in internal fights because they have majority but let people bully outside lol haiz

 

 

How to have cheaper coe when the garmen needs more money?

Come to think of it, you are right.

The economy growth in Singapore for the past few years has been very weak since the COE growth was cut, even if there is no global recession.

And it seems getting worse year by year.

[kelleo80]

Try not to benchmark with Wish. Wish is becoming classic car soon.

Haha...

 

I think BM would slowly increase Wish price to $120k and give way to Prius Alpha which may sell at $130K above.

 

so the SE was telling the truth last week when saying price will continue to go up only

but in the end did not get Wish as i do not need such a large car

would have got it though if it was at the 99k price like end dec-early jan

[Mockngbrd]

COE will either go up or else it will go down. I also tell truth. 

[GravityBlue]

It won’t go any lower. When it drop a few K, a pool of buyer will pounce to buy or change car.....the $90K, $80K COE people waiting only. More and more enbloc people getting their cheque already. With Jun VES coming, people will be buying these few months before the window close. Many COE cars are also waiting to change once COE is “right”. With zero growth and people renewing COE, supply won’t increase.

Now demand for cars a little soft, if the car you are eying will get VES surcharge, consider buying before Jun.

If the car you want will not get VES surcharge, wait till after Jun. With VES, most car prices increase, demand for cars will drop, then COE drop, then u buy......no VES, yet lower COE, your car will be cheaper.

 

 

You want COE to drop substantially, need to wait for recession. You want COE to plunge, need to wait for Global crisis. Just be patient. And when crisis comes and everyone is pulling back, you must have the guts to spend. Stock market will be one of the lead indicator of COE direction.

Agreed , especially for Cat "A" , grap it when its below 40k.

Outlook for "A" is upward trend in the mid term (from July 18 ~)

After Jun , some Cat "B" will be slapped with VES , so some "B" buyer will shift to "A".

[Thinker00]

Not necessarily. Same thing was said in oct 2017. That prices will rise in 2018 when VES kicks in. Totally different story we see now.

any way to check the ves list? I only know  A1 and A2 will qualify for rebate. but how to check the car VES type?

[Mkl22]

any way to check the ves list? I only know A1 and A2 will qualify for rebate. but how to check the car VES type?

One motoring website. Look for fuel consumption.

[Wildfaye29]

Now with cat A n B so close.

 

I would like a car with the following attributes:

 

1.5 hybrid (low road tax/gd fuel consumption)

Below 20k omv (can take more loan/lesser arf surcharge)

 

Anything gd to recommend? Best is below 90k.

[n2421241]

so the SE was telling the truth last week when saying price will continue to go up only

but in the end did not get Wish as i do not need such a large car

would have got it though if it was at the 99k price like end dec-early jan

BM increases another $4k to $112,988 for a Standard Wish now.

 

Was informed by SE while stock last.

 

Simple, Practical and proven reliable B&B car.

 

Time to change for the better.

[DACH]

BM increases another $4k to $112,988 for a Standard Wish now.

 

Was informed by SE while stock last.

 

Simple, Practical and proven reliable B&B car.

 

Time to change for the better.

Wasted that PI doesn't bring in the Wish anymore. Edited March 8, 2018 by DACH

[Zxcvb]

so the SE was telling the truth last week when saying price will continue to go up only

but in the end did not get Wish as i do not need such a large car

would have got it though if it was at the 99k price like end dec-early jan

 

COE will ALWAYS go up after a sharp drop the previous round. This has been happening since COE was invented. And typical SE tactics is to strike fear into potential customers to sign the deal. Just waiting for COE to drop till 30k by end of this year.

[benoit16]

Now with cat A n B so close.

 

I would like a car with the following attributes:

 

1.5 hybrid (low road tax/gd fuel consumption)

Below 20k omv (can take more loan/lesser arf surcharge)

 

Anything gd to recommend? Best is below 90k.

honda vezel?