Spring Moderator March 26, 2020 Share March 26, 2020 36 minutes ago, Theoldjaffa said: maybe now due to restrictions of groups >10 gathering, it will be a good time since no rallies can be held and thus, the oppo's outreach will be diluted? Social media is one thing but the fervour of a rally is not to be discounted Yes having an election now definitely benefits the incumbent but that's precisely my point. The Govt shld hv the confidence to win an election under normal circumstances. Afterall, they have done reasonably well bar a few exceptions and this Covid situation shld further enhance their reputation barring an unforeseen turn of events, so why need to be so kiasu? I don't buy the need to have a strong mandate to see us thru this. Singaporeans including the opposition are united in this crisis I'm sure. ↡ Advertisement 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minion 4th Gear March 26, 2020 Share March 26, 2020 (edited) I think that speech is a bit misleading. Delay the election beyond the mandate is indeed unconstitutional. But delay the election from in 3 months time untill, say, Jan or Feb 2021 is not violating the constitution at all. Ppl are just appealing not to hold election so soon. No asked to hold election after Apl 2021. What the smoke you are talking about? Edited March 26, 2020 by minion 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind30 Turbocharged March 26, 2020 Author Share March 26, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, minion said: I think that speech is a bit misleading. Delay the election beyond the mandate is indeed unconstitutional. But delay the election from in 3 months time untill, say, Jan or Feb 2021 is not violating the constitution at all. What the smoke you are talking about? ... actually delaying the election beyond the mandate is not unconstitutional.... u need to read his words carefully... his play with words was delaying the election beyond April 2021 AND asking the president to form a caretaker government is unconstitutional. only the later is unconstitutional.... our constitution does allows delay of election beyond the mandate in an emergency. I am surprised he is trying to confuse the public by wording it like that. Edited March 26, 2020 by Wind30 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx4falcon 5th Gear March 26, 2020 Share March 26, 2020 Anyone have any connections to the opposition parties? Maybe can propose to them to stand united if really GE is to come, all opposition parties do not take part. 100% walk over. That will make P@P have 100% mandate without being voted a single vote. No need to worry about Precautionary Measure in rallies, voting centres etc, because there are none. No resources need to be mobilised to setup voting centres, counting of votes. All resources can channel into fighting COVID-19 Swee bo? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrecord Supersonic March 26, 2020 Share March 26, 2020 WTF are they wasting their time in Parliament talking about GE now??? We have NCID no more beds, we have many returnees who are being tested positive by the day, and many more returnees waiting to return We have businesses have to close temporarily and people go farewell parties... we have/will have businesses closing for good we have people who will lose their jobs we have Indonesians nearby, which will likely become the next epicentre, and malaysia has sick people running around avoiding quarantine, which will make containment difficult And then the Govt is trying to blackmail the citizens by saying if you don't vote me for another round, i'm going to leave you in the lurch??? My impression of opposition doesn't matter, but my impression of the ruling party (or hopefully, just a few people involved in this crap discussion) has never been so bad! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrmilktooth Supercharged March 26, 2020 Share March 26, 2020 What is he smoking ?... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrecord Supersonic March 26, 2020 Share March 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, Mrmilktooth said: What is he smoking ?... Maybe something to do with this? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordanogavin 5th Gear March 26, 2020 Share March 26, 2020 No wonder Lawrence Wong shed tears ...😂 Cases going to shoot real high up with GE coming soon . Priority and resources not in the right place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic March 26, 2020 Share March 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Atrecord said: Maybe something to do with this? Because it’s in Yishun and he never share with harimau 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinceng Turbocharged March 26, 2020 Share March 26, 2020 10 hours ago, Atrecord said: WTF are they wasting their time in Parliament talking about GE now??? We have NCID no more beds, we have many returnees who are being tested positive by the day, and many more returnees waiting to return We have businesses have to close temporarily and people go farewell parties... we have/will have businesses closing for good we have people who will lose their jobs we have Indonesians nearby, which will likely become the next epicentre, and malaysia has sick people running around avoiding quarantine, which will make containment difficult And then the Govt is trying to blackmail the citizens by saying if you don't vote me for another round, i'm going to leave you in the lurch??? My impression of opposition doesn't matter, but my impression of the ruling party (or hopefully, just a few people involved in this crap discussion) has never been so bad! Although the next GE is not due till 13 months later in April 2021, the ruling needs a STRONG mandate to lead Singapore out of this pandemic. S$48 billion red packet have just been given yesterday to sweeten the deal. I think many will be very happy to vote for them, with so much goodies given out. The General Elections is the key priority for now. Covit19 is history. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beehive3783 Turbocharged March 27, 2020 Share March 27, 2020 On 3/25/2020 at 7:43 PM, Wind30 said: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/general-election-delay-unconstitutional-covid19-teo-chee-hean-12574796 It is extremely disturbing to read such comments from our Government. Can they freaking focus on the issue at hand? "When you are sailing into a storm, you want to be certain who your captain is and that he will not be changed halfway. You want to make sure that he is there - together with you, working with you, guiding you through the storm," he added. Minister Teo, if you haven't noticed, we are ALREADY in the MIDDLE of the STORM. And now you are considering asking for a change of captain which is what an election is? If an election is called, I know who to vote for Teo Chee B** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beehive3783 Turbocharged March 27, 2020 Share March 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Vinceng said: Although the next GE is not due till 13 months later in April 2021, the ruling needs a STRONG mandate to lead Singapore out of this pandemic. S$48 billion red packet have just been given yesterday to sweeten the deal. I think many will be very happy to vote for them, with so much goodies given out. The General Elections is the key priority for now. Covit19 is history. Yesterday is just talk only. Has any money been given out physically? Not yet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordanogavin 5th Gear March 27, 2020 Share March 27, 2020 15 hours ago, Vinceng said: Although the next GE is not due till 13 months later in April 2021, the ruling needs a STRONG mandate to lead Singapore out of this pandemic. S$48 billion red packet have just been given yesterday to sweeten the deal. I think many will be very happy to vote for them, with so much goodies given out. The General Elections is the key priority for now. Covit19 is history. With all the goodies given, i will be worried when the payback time comes... 😨 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsun366 Turbocharged March 27, 2020 Share March 27, 2020 1. Why would I want to hand TCB an MP seat, go somewhere else. Heck go Marine Parade dey. Dont gatchau me in the west. Or because the IQ distribution is lower in the west after I moved east. Ga gi gong ga gi song. 2. If the govt is not smart to capitalize on winning why would we want a fair government that allows itself to be chopped? The common pink ic is not honorable at all but practical. There are many people especially the females would enjoy winning even if it is unfair...closing sale, moving sale especially when they perceive they have an advantage. 3. The trolls are male and cannot see beyond their noses, cannot even get fifty percent of the population on their side...how to win. Much less govern. 4. Hard truths hurt the self esteem of the honorable opposition, no? 5. Get the women on your side before coming out as a credible political opposition party. You may ask the Dura, Arachnoid and Pia for notes. Music.. Even if you dislike them, they get the job done. I rather fight with TCH than against him, he the bruiser, kick metal ship all courageously. Be quick so that we can move on. Xia xuay or otherwise. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanmachine Supercharged March 27, 2020 Share March 27, 2020 Of course, everyone will take advantage opt the current situation, even in football game, when opposition party loses a red carded player, advantage comes in handy. However whether current party holder goes on the election campaiging is dependent on Singaporean's mood and timing will determine how bad or good thy perform. while the opposition party has not done much , merely showing faces on weekends was insufficient, advantage goes to governing party since thy have the ammo and bullets at hand. I reckon most of us is not pin the moods, and lost of job, lost of income and instability all play a part. The bone of contention was: What of there wasn't any of Covid-19, would the Govt have any better ? other than lockdown, SHN, aids in subsidy and medical fees being waived for Singaporean. What can the Current govt really do for us in terms of Family main income earners job security, the weak and lower income earners,old and medically handicapped who need more than a roof over their heads ? I will be taking a long hard reflection when election comes along, at this juncture, I think wrong timing and financially many families are drained, pressured and cant think properly. it's along haul to Q4/2020 for recovery days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxus-MIFA9 Supersonic March 28, 2020 Share March 28, 2020 Yes. Get rid of this election thingy which causing stress to all citizen in guessing when election coming. It had been linker on since last year and very stressful to those who have to work mending those Polling Stations. Can't plan our holidays.... Funish it and lets all concentrate on fighting the COVID-19 together. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanmachine Supercharged March 28, 2020 Share March 28, 2020 We are a small Nation and is capable of making decision, however the impact is too big to risk it, given the consequences it can explode further, citizens may not taking it serious enough attending rally, the fanfare isn't right hence PM can't say Israel have done it, so and so have done it, we should be abled to, we have to bear in mind our city is small enough to rise to the call, yet big enough to be heard, a little shake here and there can cause mayhem , panic and anxiety. I endorse that Election need to carry on, don't you agree to postpone is better late than never . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playtime Twincharged March 28, 2020 Share March 28, 2020 It's like a farm. The animals are given some food and water by the farmer. In return, despite the photo of the farmer hugging and kissing the animals... only a fool didn't know what eventually happens to ALL the animals 😳. Animals who display the desired traits of obedience or production of meat will be given preference as show animals who then get the mistaken notion that they are "special" and must show gratitude to the farmer. To the extend they will actively cheer and even take part when lesser animals are "disposed" of... cos they are special... they feel it. Over time, selective breeding results in domestication, open the cages .. they also won't leave. But make no mistake.. come the day, even the show animals will have the same inevitable fate if it doesn't confirm to the farmers whimps .. and whips. The domesticated animal will forever be locked in the farm system as its breed in the DNA already... worshipping the farmer to the slaughter house. We see it in north Korea, Maoist China, stalinist Russia, nazi Germany, imperial Japan. It takes a smart animal to know that there's life beyond the farm system.. beyond the farmer. The farmer... any farmer.. is not a god. What ever food, shelter, medication etc it provides, it's done for the farmers benefit. (CCP China model). The smart animal is one that understands NEVER top let the farmer be God. The farmer should be a servant, not a master. ↡ Advertisement 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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