Suu Kyi detained

[Weez911]

For Myanmar to effectively go back to democracy and ASSK, the only solution is for their people to rebel against their military govt with their own blood. Of course uncle sam can help but the Americans, via the 2016 election results, are generally not willing to fight a war that is not their own cause. And if US is not involved, UK and Australia and the rest of the western world would abtain also. Myanmar has natural gas resource but they are not oil-rich like middle-east (1 less excuse to liberate them).

China can help though, if the new military gen does not want to continue with the BRI initiatives, because China has a lot at stake there. But I doubt the new Myanmar regime want to start a war with China.

[Beregond]

Just now, Weez911 said:

Ya we only need to look at the physical size and lifestyle of Kim Jong Un vs an average NK citizen to know whether sanction works. That the most classic portrayal of a sanction against an autocrat. 

my neighbours at my work place got quite a few number of myanmar  fw. got a few close myanmar engineer friends and soccer kaki also.

u need to speak to them to know what is it like in their country.

its totally unfair to compare them to sg. when we got a full stomach, choosing which  atlas restaurant to go for our meal later, their common ppl there can barely fill their stomach.

talking about freedom and democracy to their common ppl is like talking about fantasy . they only care who can give them food.

pushing suu kyi up in the name of democracy is a good start, but its only a start, need to have follow up, how much investment,wealth ,building of their country have suu kyi backer done for her? 

who is the country that invest the most in myanmar? who build their infrastructure , who give them money? does suu kyi have the support of them? i dun know. 

[inlinesix]

2 minutes ago, Weez911 said:

For Myanmar to effectively go back to democracy and ASSK, the only solution is for their people to rebel against their military govt with their own blood. Of course uncle sam can help but the Americans, via the 2016 election results, are generally not willing to fight a war that is not their own cause. And if US is not involved, UK and Australia and the rest of the western world would abtain also. Myanmar has natural gas resource but they are not oil-rich like middle-east (1 less excuse to liberate them).

China can help though, if the new military gen does not want to continue with the BRI initiatives, because China has a lot at stake there. But I doubt the new Myanmar regime want to start a war with China.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3120098/china-watches-coup-neighbouring-myanmar-keenly-observers-see

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China keeps eye on Myanmar coup, but observers see no cause for action by Beijing

• Both sides in the turmoil have ‘cordial’ relations with Beijing, putting China in an awkward spot, says military source
• China is the second biggest investor in Myanmar and Foreign Minister Wang Yi made it the first stop on his recent Asian tour

 

[Victor68]

There must be benefits before any country would want to be directly involve in another people business and the likely candidate is USA. Once that happen, not only China is uncomfortable,  Russia too will not be happy. Then instead of Myanmar internal affair, it is elephants fight on someone yard. Poor Myanmar, hope they don't become another old Vietnam. 

[Karoon]

43 minutes ago, Beregond said:

usa already  making plan for sanction as usual . see how it goes in a few weeks.

but some of my myanmar friends in sg tell me they hope this wont happen, it  wont effect those generals and soldiers, but the common ppl are those that is going to suffer for it. 

If kanna sanction, you and i also kanna as temasek also put money there.

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From October 2018 to February 2019, Singapore had the highest FDI into Myanmar at US$20.6 billion, accounting for 26% of the total foreign investment. In 2017, the bulk of Singapore’s investment in Myanmar was in the information and communications sector (73%), followed by manufacturing (14%) and real estate (4.6%). 

 

[Weez911]

25 minutes ago, Beregond said:

pushing suu kyi up in the name of democracy is a good start, but its only a start, need to have follow up, how much investment,wealth ,building of their country have suu kyi backer done for her? 

who is the country that invest the most in myanmar? who build their infrastructure , who give them money? does suu kyi have the support of them? i dun know. 

To be fair the NLD won their latest GE by a huge margin, indicating their people wants her to lead.

The problem is the "army party" doesn't want to let go of power. They have to act now because after 2 or 3 elections later, it will be harder for them to take back power because the people will be used to the new democratic norms.

This is a game of chess which we know exactly how both parties will play from the start.

[Beregond]

1 minute ago, Weez911 said:

To be fair the NLD won their latest GE by a huge margin, indicating their people wants her to lead.

The problem is the "army party" doesn't want to let go of power. They have to act now because after 2 or 3 elections later, it will be harder for them to take back power because the people will be used to the new democratic norms.

This is a game of chess which we know exactly how both parties will play from the start.

like 1 bro mention, their own ppl have to act if they dun want those generals in charge. 

the last thing is for any 1 else to send army in and civil war break up.

[RadX]

10 minutes ago, Beregond said:

like 1 bro mention, their own ppl have to act if they dun want those generals in charge. 

the last thing is for any 1 else to send army in and civil war break up.

May well

go that way

[Weez911]

12 minutes ago, Beregond said:

like 1 bro mention, their own ppl have to act if they dun want those generals in charge. 

the last thing is for any 1 else to send army in and civil war break up.

Even if you send a 3rd party armed force in, the last time it happened, all the soldiers surrendered but they formed the ISIL after the occupants left. This problem cannot be solved externally. It is for them to resolve. 

[1fast1]

13 minutes ago, RadX said:

May well

go that way

Send Rambo in. One week, sure can sort it out. May take another  month to  clean up all the blood and guts though. 😁

[CremornePt]

1 hour ago, Beregond said:

who is the country that invest the most in myanmar?

Time for our NS men to deploy to Myanmar to protect our investments? 😀

Edited February 2, 2021 by CremornePt

[Beregond]

3 minutes ago, CremornePt said:

Time for our NS men to deploy to Myanmar to protect our investments? 😀

I know a few boss who got factory there.

Making plastic  and house hold equipment. 

Dun know if their production effected or not 

[CremornePt]

1 hour ago, Weez911 said:

To be fair the NLD won their latest GE by a huge margin, indicating their people wants her to lead.

The military ran the country into the ground for the past 50 years, basically as a giant kleptocracy. (w/Singapore as a foreign benefactor btw)

Leaving Myanmar as a complete basket case.

So the locals want them gone. They did nothing good for their country.

[Didu]

"Oh....Godzieee......"

"Need you to pop by Myanmar if you have a minute. Just to waggle your big fat tail a bit for a clean slate over there."

[ToyotaShuttle]

3 hours ago, Weez911 said:

Objectively what do you expect the world to do?

Form an alliance and liberate Myanmar, which has an army of 550k and a land bigger than Vietnam and Thailand, and a geography that makes it almost impossible to breach?

Or sanction them like how they sanction NK? Fine, but the fat generals will only get fatter while the people will suffer more in a sanction. 

For that matter, shall we also set a rule to the rest of the 200 countries to follow your own preferred governance structure? If they don't follow then we invade them with our children's blood?

Send in the CIA la! See how US CIA saved iran from a dictator!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh

[Volvobrick]

2 hours ago, Beregond said:

like 1 bro mention, their own ppl have to act if they dun want those generals in charge. 

the last thing is for any 1 else to send army in and civil war break up.

Civil wars need external support for weapons and resources. And who would want to support them or send troops to Myanmar? If the military is in charge, great for China. Easier to deal with them as they would be sanctioned by the rest of the world. US? Nothing there for US. No oil, not strategic location, no Muslim. Unless Myanmar gives a naval base to China. India? No reason for India to be involved too. Myanmar is not Hindu nor Muslim.

That's probably why the last time the military was in charge, they did it for many decades.

 

Edited February 2, 2021 by Volvobrick

[Jamesc]

My BFF support the general.

He says its not nice to win the election

and be cheated out of it.

 

[Kb27]

as long as myanmar's military is around in its present form, there is no hope for the future of this country.

anytime they feel like it, they can just takeover the gahmen.