inlinesix Hypersonic August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, Blueray said: oh yes, and contractor lorries are much faster than public buses too, no 80km/h no talk. if lorry happen to flip then its just LL lor ... Plus zero social distancing. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 There will come a times where we would feel unease conform tot he norm of society. How would we feel if we are being marginalized. Treat others the way you want to be treated.😁 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 On 8/7/2021 at 12:03 PM, Nolicense said: we should have a unvacc estate... say put the unvacc on ubin.. no body go in or out... unless delta can fly across.. they can farm food there dont need come to mainland.. live out their lives there.. lol Also the quarantine zone should be highly guarded by military. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellandross Supersonic August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 Why need to act victim? Policies especially health related are always catered for benefit of majority not minority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 I won't call them 'criminal', I won't blame them for not taking the jab as the virus will still infect people who are vaccinated, spreading of the virus is equal for everyone. The only loss to the unvaccinated can be their own life, so why angry or blame them? as for F&B not entertaining these group is still fair and it is actually trying to protect them and not the other way. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, yishunite said: Not equal. Moderna is supposedly 75% effective at preventing infection even after several months, over 50% effective by Pfizer (but both nearly 100% effective at preventing severe case) So basically Pfizer vaccinated population might spread Delta at roughly the same rate as original Covid, but Moderna vaccinated probably spread it at even slower rate than that I am referring to contacting the virus and spreading the virus, all are equal whether you are vaccinated or not. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Jman888 said: I am referring to contacting the virus and spreading the virus, all are equal whether you are vaccinated or not. But then we must be very careful to not go into social divide because of vaccination vs non vaccination. Like the picture below.. this is just.. i mean everyone should have the same right to use toilet be it vaccinated or not vaccinated. So this one is like boderline going towards social divide between vaccinated vs non vaccinated. This is no good. So hope NUSS to take it down and allow all users to be able to use the toilets. We cannot promote social divide because of people with no vaccination. We could do all other thing to encourage people to vaccinate and maybe with some differences. However these differences should not cause social divide. Edited August 11, 2021 by Yewheng 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 I don't think we can get away with "discrimination". The way covid is being played out, sooner rather than later, discrimination will be in place between vaccinated and unvaccinated. Discrimination will get "worse". If you don't like it, you can move to the mountains, be a sovereign somewhere, and live like a hermit. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyotaShuttle 5th Gear August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 On 8/7/2021 at 12:35 AM, Volvobrick said: Your friend the ex POTUS? Anyway, Sg is going to let the infection numbers go up. As long as not too many vaccinated people die, it is going to be acceptable. Unvaccinated ones (by choice) if they are more likely to die, it is their personal choice. As long as they don't occupy the ICU/beds for too long. Meanwhile treat them like outcasts, don't let them go restaurants and most places. Make life miserable for them. This is the way forward. Trump is pro vaccine so don't believe the democrats lies Quote https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-business-mark-meadows-coronavirus-pandemic-0902fbb041b0459e55da86be75b1457a Hours before the Food and Drug Administration authorized the first COVD-19 vaccine late Friday, a high-ranking White House official told the agency’s chief he could face firing if the vaccine was not cleared by day’s end, two administration officials said. Trump tweeted directly at Hahn earlier Friday, complaining that FDA “is still a big, old, slow turtle.” Trump has publicly bashed the pace of the FDA’s vaccine review process. “Get the dam vaccines out NOW, Dr. Hahn,” Trump tweeted Friday. “Stop playing games and start saving lives.” 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Jman888 said: I am referring to contacting the virus and spreading the virus, all are equal whether you are vaccinated or not. Its just an excuse gahmen punishing ppl for not vaccinating so those stubborn people can drool looking at those vaccinated gather in 5 and eat in nice restaurants with cool aircon🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Yewheng said: But then we must be very careful to not go into social divide because of vaccination vs non vaccination. Like the picture below.. this is just.. i mean everyone should have the same right to use toilet be it vaccinated or not vaccinated. So this one is like boderline going towards social divide between vaccinated vs non vaccinated. This is no good. So hope NUSS to take it down and allow all users to be able to use the toilets. We cannot promote social divide because of people with no vaccination. We could do all other thing to encourage people to vaccinate and maybe with some differences. However these differences should not cause social divide. Next take mrt for those unvaccinated please take the last car only. rest of train cars reserved for vaccinated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Thaiyotakamli said: Next take mrt for those unvaccinated please take the last car only. rest of train cars reserved for vaccinated This toilet usage thing is what I see it as.. when a person too focused on something and end up neglect on other aspect that are as important. This is not the 1st time I bring out about this important lesson on the overally focused on something part.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Kb27 said: I don't think we can get away with "discrimination". The way covid is being played out, sooner rather than later, discrimination will be in place between vaccinated and unvaccinated. Discrimination will get "worse". If you don't like it, you can move to the mountains, be a sovereign somewhere, and live like a hermit. I think this is not what the government want to go into that direction. Like I said before, when vaccination rate hit a certain target I think there will have very little differences between vaccination and non vaccination. The no dine in at restaurants, food court and etc for non vaccinated person, yes it could potentially also cause social divide. However government is also very clever, coz you guys see. Government do give these people to be able to go dine in at these places if they really want to.. like go take PET ( pre event test) to show that he/she is tested negative for the virus and then use this test to be able to go and dine in. The same goes to go gym and etc. These people can also go take PET to show that they have negative for the virus and be able to use the facilities. Also the no dine in for non vaccinated/ non vaccinated cannot use gyms and etc are all just temporarily measures and government clearly say out it is for temporarily measures and will review when more people are vaccinated right? These little details although seems minor but then it's these minor details that prep people mindset. So end result is that people will not be too overally thinking okay I am not vaccinated, I don't care this will make me even more not to get vaccinated and form their own non vaccination group. Coz these people will know that okay, I just endure for another few months, after that I can go for usual activities and etc as others do. Of coz there will have die hard one that is towards the extreme at least this will be minimised. The main thing is that people need to know what actions or policy in place that could potentially cause social divide and how to minimise it, that could only happen when people take a step back and not too overally focus on the virus itself. Edited August 11, 2021 by Yewheng 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 (edited) Hope the government can quickly put a stop to all such divisive policies. It definitely won't he good moving forward. Restriction on the use of toilet! How barbaric and third world behaviour!😰 Just shared that toilet poster to my overseas whatapp group. See will any foreign media pick it up and force the government to stem out such discriminating policy. 😰 Edited August 11, 2021 by Kopites 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Kopites said: Hope the government can quickly put a stop to all such divisive policies. It definitely won't he good moving forward. Restriction on the use of toilet! How barbaric and third world behaviour!😰 Just shared that toilet poster to my overseas whatapp group. See will any foreign media pick it up and force the government to stem out such discriminating policy. 😰 Actually if want to separate can, but need to know to what extend and also what additional precautions to be taken to ensure that even though separate out, it will not cause social divide. To come to the extend of using toilet also need to separate out? This one is really borderline on the social divide already. I just wonder how come people at the top who come out with this do not realise it? Are they really too overally focused on covid-19 itself that they now form a tunnel vision? Just like I am saying too overally focused on something and neglect other aspects that are as equally important. Edited August 11, 2021 by Yewheng 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 We want to stem out racial/colour discrimantion. On the other hand many here advocate discrimination on non vaccinated population. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersaylee Hypersonic August 11, 2021 Share August 11, 2021 45 minutes ago, Kopites said: We want to stem out racial/colour discrimantion. On the other hand many here advocate discrimination on non vaccinated population. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+great+divide&view=detail&mid=EF83379E26CB2D8145B7EF83379E26CB2D8145B7&FORM=VRRTAP&PC=HWMB 😔🙏 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, mersaylee said: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+great+divide&view=detail&mid=EF83379E26CB2D8145B7EF83379E26CB2D8145B7&FORM=VRRTAP&PC=HWMB 😔🙏 In the office now can't listen to the song.😁 Will listen afterwork. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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