Putin starts “military operation” on Ukraine

[Playtime]

On 10/23/2025 at 2:53 PM, jcmm said:

On paper, 100 or 150 jets sounded tok kong. In reality  

Problems, Saab current production with backlog, Sweden, Brazil n other countries are willing to delay delivery, Ukraine might receive a few jets soon. Next will be training of pilots, maintenance & support, interop with current military equipment, etc. 

100-150 jets, Ukraine is looking to fight the war beyond another 5 yrs. 

Actually... 50 jets is probably more than enough to turn the aerial tide decisively considering they are already holding back the Russian air force very well now with the small force they have.  150 is looking at long term force planning. 

But yeah... saab production capacity will be stretched thin. 

[Ender]

But Trump will always go soft with Putin when they have a call or meetup.

 

 

[Jamesc]

Who wants a GE when you can have a Rolls Royce?

On 10/23/2025 at 9:20 PM, Kb27 said:

Gripen was tied to US restriction due to GE engine.

But now they offer Gripen E with RR engine which removed all US restrictions, stupid trump cannot messed with it.

 

 

[Jamesc]

Haiz no choice. 

Putin has a video tape of Trump golden showers. 

Not sure if he is doing the showering or he is being showered. 

On 10/25/2025 at 2:09 AM, Ender said:

But Trump will always go soft with Putin when they have a call or meetup.

 

 

 

[Sosaria]

So much for drone technology. Actually it does not take much to bring one down. No need for pricey sophisticated counter-drone tech. Just confetti or a roll of toilet paper

https://petapixel.com/2017/07/18/beware-camera-drones-weak-confetti-toilet-paper/

[Ghgan]

No escape. 

Edited November 3 by Ghgan

[Ender]

A couple of days ago, the Russia propaganda was celebrating the elimination of 11 specials forces of the Ukrainian GUR intelligence when they landed by Blackhawk helicopters.. The Gur were silent for a few days (maybe Opsec) and finally they are saying something. The operation are on going with footages of GUR operating inside Russian controlled territories of Pokorvst. So from Ukraine POV, the landing were successful, but operation is ongoing but whether operation will be a success, no one knows yet.

 

Edited November 4 by Ender

[Jamesc]

 

[Ghgan]

The experts are so nice to tell us. Pokrovsk is not military significant. They need to tell us what cities are indeed important beforehand, so we could know. But I guess the answer would be Washington.

[Jamesc]

Putin is going to unleash he killer AI robots in Ukraine.

 

[Playtime]

On 11/7/2025 at 9:29 PM, Jamesc said:

 

Drones in exchange for S400 has gotta be the mother of good return for value. 

[Kb27]

Ukraine to get 100 Rafale aircraft, after the Gripens.

 

[Ghgan]

The war has gone exactly as planned. Defense contractors and politicians got their money. The goal was always to weaken Russia and enrich the international oligarchs.
The media forgot to mention: France sold jets to Ukraine but the rest of NATO has to fund the purchase, as France is bankrupt. It is a deal which still has to be financed. This “purchase” by Ukraine of 100 French fighter jets with the final delivery of same being in 2035. 

Sadly the Ukrainians will realise that this war was meant to destroy them and cripple Russia , they were never meant to win , they were betrayed by the West ( from day 1 ) . 

 

[Beregond]

Peace for ukraine and Russia at last?🤔🤔

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/ukraine-trump-russia-peace-plan-5483651?cid=FBcna&fbclid=IwY2xjawON6yVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA80MDk5NjI2MjMwODU2MDkAAR4C21WmUYEvMiYA-ZSr_sAWylAjpQ4AdIJ0DeAFaawhI_G4pKsNxqFX-B44cw_aem_AH8B-JfTjEmMEQhwcR7F1Q

Ukraine faces 'difficult choice' as Trump demands acceptance of peace plan

[inlinesix]

On 11/22/2025 at 9:06 AM, Beregond said:

Peace for ukraine and Russia at last?🤔🤔

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/ukraine-trump-russia-peace-plan-5483651?cid=FBcna&fbclid=IwY2xjawON6yVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA80MDk5NjI2MjMwODU2MDkAAR4C21WmUYEvMiYA-ZSr_sAWylAjpQ4AdIJ0DeAFaawhI_G4pKsNxqFX-B44cw_aem_AH8B-JfTjEmMEQhwcR7F1Q

Ukraine faces 'difficult choice' as Trump demands acceptance of peace plan

Weaken Ukraine for future operation.

A laughable Security Guarantee 

[jcmm]

On 11/22/2025 at 9:06 AM, Beregond said:

Ukraine faces 'difficult choice' as Trump demands acceptance of peace plan

Give Trump the next Novel peace prize.  

[Kb27]

On 11/22/2025 at 9:14 AM, inlinesix said:

Weaken Ukraine for future operation.

A laughable Security Guarantee 

It's all for putin's benefit. 

Gives them Ukrainian land and 10 years to build up again and attack Ukraine once more, after the "Security Guarantee" is over.

Zelenskyy just said NO to trump, it seems.

[Ender]

Limit Ukraine military is one point of the Trump's peace plan. If there's any important lesson from the Russians invasion is to have a strong defense. Ukriane is not the invader and should not be subjected to limit their military strength.