Volvobrick Supersonic October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 8:47 AM, ConnorMcLeod said: Thanks. indeed i think they mention "press" so matches with your mention of hydraulic press. i use stock rim. usual damage due to turning too early hit kerb for a few times etc , but nothing seriously hard until rim also crushed. can the parts at the wheel (not just the ball bearing) withstand these common driving mistakes ? at about 40k-50k km. car mileage, i had the bearing repaired at borneo. it only pasted to about 70k km. means quality of ball bearing is still not the only causing to the early damage , i still worry something else is damaged and causes the wheel noy to spin the way it should ( it may be my imagination but i feel the problem wheel vibrates when I drive ) Hitting kerbs - maybe your wheel is deformed/warped and out of balance, causing additional stress and wear on the bearings. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arogab Turbocharged October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/19/2023 at 10:03 PM, ConnorMcLeod said: my Altis has only done 90k km, and now the 3rd set of wheel bearing on the front left tire is starting to make noise again. a month ago, i noticed the front left tire thread was very worn out and change a new set of tires. Probably the new tires are more quiet and I hear the wheel bearing noise immediate after the tire change. the last repair was less than 20k km ago!! these things are suppose to last long enough for our 10yr COE in most cases. I believe changing the wheel bearing is not solving the root , and the bearing will fail again in next 20k km. what else could be the cause and cost to repair? You already mentioned. You front left tire thread very worn. What it takes for the whole thing to work properly is the turning shaft need to be ok, next is some say the bearing hub, I would as bearing. Then fit the wheels. Bearing alignment and wheel alignment has to be ok too. How about your drive shaft alignment? Drive shaft might be causing the wheels to no go straight even if wheels are align. It may affect too. What I can conclude is your bearing is suffering from some forces (at certain direction) from the above that is causing it to breakdown. You need to go to someone you trust to confirm all the above. Rolling issues, alignmnet issues, direction issues, all can break the bearing. For easy of troubleshooting, I suggest you start from the inner most all the way to outside which is wheels and wheels balancing last 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 9:20 AM, Ct3833 said: I think he is referring to the wheel hub for the bearing , not the housing(rongs) for the balls. I am referring to the the wheel hub. Not the bearing housing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0y0ta Supercharged October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/19/2023 at 11:03 PM, ConnorMcLeod said: my Altis has only done 90k km, and now the 3rd set of wheel bearing on the front left tire is starting to make noise again. a month ago, i noticed the front left tire thread was very worn out and change a new set of tires. Probably the new tires are more quiet and I hear the wheel bearing noise immediate after the tire change. the last repair was less than 20k km ago!! these things are suppose to last long enough for our 10yr COE in most cases. I believe changing the wheel bearing is not solving the root , and the bearing will fail again in next 20k km. what else could be the cause and cost to repair? Go for proper (laser) alighment first... make sure camber and toe all follow manufacturer recommendations. Maybe can also check your lower arm... that one just 1 piece of stamp steel may have been slightly deformed so change some of the angle/position causing more stress on the bearings. Anyway it is a long and very difficult process to troubleshoot. But yes altis bearings should be bullet proof for many many years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 Hitting the kerb a few times caused the front left assembly to be bent out of shape. This is why the tyre and the bearing got abnormal wear. Find the part that is bent out of shape and replace it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 9:04 AM, Heartbreakid said: The bearing should come together with the hub assembly itself. Depend on the design. Alot of jap car front bearing. Even if u buy original. U still need to perform the press out/in step. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnahp Supercharged October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/19/2023 at 11:57 PM, Mkl22 said: Maybe the mechanic mangled the hub? Buy a new hub and bearing together. good one 👍 that's what I thought too 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorMcLeod 2nd Gear October 20, 2023 Author Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 9:01 AM, Watwheels said: You are feeling rich? Why do it at BM? Here in mcf got the Toyota parts sponsors. You just give them a call but must get your e-logcard ready as they will ask for chassis number. After purchasing the original part go to your regular workshop and get them to replace. it was during warranty. after warranty, i went outside workshop. but problem persists. yep, simple things like wipers, air filters i go to stockists on online and DIY (DIM to be precise 🙂 ). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 (edited) On 10/20/2023 at 1:00 PM, ConnorMcLeod said: it was during warranty. after warranty, i went outside workshop. but problem persists. yep, simple things like wipers, air filters i go to stockists on online and DIY (DIM to be precise 🙂 ). Actually with some older design.. ( the bearing hub got a small cap. Some time by accident the mech make a small hole on the cap and water drip in) The new altis design should not happen. But if by accident water slip in, bearing spoil super fast. The next time u go replace. Can ask if the the old bearing got rust. Ask them check . Etc Edited October 20, 2023 by Beregond 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeobh 4th Gear October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 Frankly I have not come across shops in Singapore doing proper grease packing on axle taper roller bearings. Failure to do a proper grease packing job only result in premature bearing failure. To know more about axle roller bearing grease packing procedure , google youtube 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeobh 4th Gear October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 Another very important task when installing the grease packed roller bearing into the axle is to do pre-loading ( that is to tighten the bearing nut to the require torque so that the bearing rollers are in perfect contact with outer bearing casing and there is minimum free-play when the wheel is assembled into position). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arogab Turbocharged October 20, 2023 Share October 20, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 8:01 AM, Watwheels said: You are feeling rich? Why do it at BM? Here in mcf got the Toyota parts sponsors. You just give them a call but must get your e-logcard ready as they will ask for chassis number. After purchasing the original part go to your regular workshop and get them to replace. Some things go back to AD is good, some may not. If you need their expertise, go to them, if not outside got many good WS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorMcLeod 2nd Gear October 21, 2023 Author Share October 21, 2023 thank you everyone for your advices. going through all posts I figure the below wheel alignment check lower arm check turning shaft change bearing and bub are there workshops that can (and will) do all? i mean, if I go comfortdelgro to do wheel alignment, then another workshop to check the arm / shaft, it costs a lot of time... in MCF/internet I see a handle of 'toyota specialist workshops' . Any clue if these workshops (or any wheel (?) workshop) can do all of the above (I am ok even if it means they send my car to their neighboring workshop with the required machines to do wheel alignment, for example, at least saves taking a day off and run around) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged October 21, 2023 Share October 21, 2023 (edited) On 10/21/2023 at 6:02 PM, ConnorMcLeod said: thank you everyone for your advices. going through all posts I figure the below wheel alignment check lower arm check turning shaft change bearing and bub are there workshops that can (and will) do all? i mean, if I go comfortdelgro to do wheel alignment, then another workshop to check the arm / shaft, it costs a lot of time... in MCF/internet I see a handle of 'toyota specialist workshops' . Any clue if these workshops (or any wheel (?) workshop) can do all of the above (I am ok even if it means they send my car to their neighboring workshop with the required machines to do wheel alignment, for example, at least saves taking a day off and run around) Go to those places like Sin Ming,Kaki Bukit or Ang Mo Kio,Autopoint,the whole Cluster are Workshops,sure have everything under 1 Roof. Edited October 21, 2023 by ER-3682 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnahp Supercharged October 21, 2023 Share October 21, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 1:30 PM, Yeobh said: Frankly I have not come across shops in Singapore doing proper grease packing on axle taper roller bearings. Failure to do a proper grease packing job only result in premature bearing failure. To know more about axle roller bearing grease packing procedure , google youtube yeah, even banglas do it properly 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0y0ta Supercharged October 22, 2023 Share October 22, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 4:03 AM, Gnahp said: yeah, even banglas do it properly For those who talk about greasing bearings, please go and readup or watch videos on how it is actually done for modern cars with bolted in bearings. There is no where to grease lah, and certainly you will not see the exposed rollers or balls🤦♂️ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic October 22, 2023 Share October 22, 2023 to get the record straight. altis rear bearing look like this, zero greasing is needed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic October 22, 2023 Share October 22, 2023 the front wheel bearing should look like this , no greasing needed also ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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