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On 5/10/2025 at 10:44 AM, macrosszero said:

Even that photo of the Rafale tail fin has been subject to skepticism by some quarters who undoubtedly sniffed a lot of copium that it could have been AI-generated, because someone had analyzed the photo for image manipulation and/or evidence AI/deepfake, saying the fin was too thin.

Yes and that is the issue now 

 

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On 5/10/2025 at 10:44 AM, macrosszero said:

Even that photo of the Rafale tail fin has been subject to skepticism by some quarters who undoubtedly sniffed a lot of copium that it could have been AI-generated, because someone had analyzed the photo for image manipulation and/or evidence AI/deepfake, saying the fin was too thin.

Personally I take all the news about the accomplishment of both side esp their air force with a big pinch of salt. 

Other then this Rafale case.

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Maybe got no fighting between In and Pak.

It's all just AI and exaggeration. 

One brave Indian soldier killed 10 terrorists which his bare hands.

One brave Pak soldier killed 20 Imdian soldiers with just one bullet. 

I have seen them Bollywood movies.

And as we all know that part of the world like to tell big cannon fairy godmother stories.

Macho bulls**ters.

:D

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On 5/10/2025 at 11:23 AM, macrosszero said:

Sorry boss, I had a boomer moment there

We call it glorious moment aka brain fart 😂😂

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On 5/9/2025 at 8:02 PM, Playtime said:

 

If true, this is a massive Intel treasure. 

 

Clearly Indian source. 

"Fully intact Chinese PL-15 long range air-to-air missile recovered from Hoshiarpur, Punjab. Obviously fired from a PAF jet, likely a JF-17—Failed to detonate. Yesterday HQ-9B AD system gets smoked in Lahore by an 🇮🇳Harop, now this. Tells you a bit about Chinese weapons quality"

That’s why need to BUY1FREE1. 🤣

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On 5/10/2025 at 11:14 AM, Beregond said:

Personally I take all the news about the accomplishment of both side esp their air force with a big pinch of salt. 

Other then this Rafale case.

Yes, I believe at least 1 Rafale was shot down as confirmed by the French (they should have the data). US has confirmed 2 kills.  There is also a video (as opposed to just photos) on CNN, which I would presume has been reviewed by experts. 

So at least 1 confirmed kill.

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On 5/10/2025 at 1:18 PM, Voodooman said:

Yes, I believe at least 1 Rafale was shot down as confirmed by the French (they should have the data). US has confirmed 2 kills.  There is also a video (as opposed to just photos) on CNN, which I would presume has been reviewed by experts. 

So at least 1 confirmed kill.

I dun want to say the china fighters are superior.  But I think their capabilities have surprises alot of countries,  esp the west. Until now, chinese fighter have not been tested yet.

In any case. I read some rumours,  france banded india from flying their  fighter atm.

Due to maybe poor training or failure to use the rafale to their full capabilities bababa. ( like i said rumours).

India have some of the worst air force in the world.  Look at their jets.

Russia mix with France.  So many different models. And their own developed so call high end pak50 with russia.  Does india have US FIGHTERS? 🤔🤔🤔

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On 5/10/2025 at 2:09 PM, Beregond said:

I dun want to say the china fighters are superior.  But I think their capabilities have surprises alot of countries,  esp the west. Until now, chinese fighter have not been tested yet.

In any case. I read some rumours,  france banded india from flying their  fighter atm.

Due to maybe poor training or failure to use the rafale to their full capabilities bababa. ( like i said rumours).

India have some of the worst air force in the world.  Look at their jets.

Russia mix with France.  So many different models. And their own developed so call high end pak50 with russia.  Does india have US FIGHTERS? 🤔🤔🤔

India operates a large (over 1,800) fleet of aircraft which is as diverse as it is large. They do have American aircraft in their inventory just not fighters - like C-130, C-17 and AH-64E. When you consider their legacy systems originating from Russia, some from French plus domestic, it is a complicated logistics tree. Our neighbor, Indonesia looks to be headed the same way. That being said, the diversity can be viewed in a positive light that not all of their eggs are in one basket like we are.

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On 5/10/2025 at 2:09 PM, Beregond said:

I dun want to say the china fighters are superior.  But I think their capabilities have surprises alot of countries,  esp the west. Until now, chinese fighter have not been tested yet.

In any case. I read some rumours,  france banded india from flying their  fighter atm.

Due to maybe poor training or failure to use the rafale to their full capabilities bababa. ( like i said rumours).

India have some of the worst air force in the world.  Look at their jets.

Russia mix with France.  So many different models. And their own developed so call high end pak50 with russia.  Does india have US FIGHTERS? 🤔🤔🤔

I am not sure of the 2 jets but Chinese PL-15 air to air missile with > mach-5 speed and range of more than 200km will be a big threat to the Rafale which I presume comes with the shorter range MBDA Meteor. 

No expert but logic says longer reach should have some advantage here. 

一寸长一寸强,一寸短一寸险

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On 5/10/2025 at 1:09 PM, Beregond said:

I dun want to say the china fighters are superior.  But I think their capabilities have surprises alot of countries,  esp the west. Until now, chinese fighter have not been tested yet.

In any case. I read some rumours,  france banded india from flying their  fighter atm.

Due to maybe poor training or failure to use the rafale to their full capabilities bababa. ( like i said rumours).

India have some of the worst air force in the world.  Look at their jets.

Russia mix with France.  So many different models. And their own developed so call high end pak50 with russia.  Does india have US FIGHTERS? 🤔🤔🤔

To be fair, those Western jets are designed to be part of a larger integrated subsystem within a much larger organism.  so it's not really a fair comparison between a french air force rafale attack with Europe level support units and the Indian ones with vintage plane support and ceca all-talk style crew. 

Somebody need to do the needful 

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anw, i go read up abit on kashmir.

i think its very hard for any outsider to judge who is right or wrong there, its very very complicate, and it goes all the way back to even before the british landed.

but of course the british make it worst. 

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On 5/10/2025 at 8:42 AM, Sturtles said:


true

with disinformation war raging, we can only try our best at discerning 

waiting for good evidence of destroyed  F16 and J17 shot down, and also HQ-9 sam sites 

The social media war pretty much reduced to each one calling the other 'you bloody f**ker b**tard you!'

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On 5/10/2025 at 3:50 PM, Zizou said:

The social media war pretty much reduced to each one calling the other 'you bloody f**ker b**tard you!'

Sounds like cricket matches tho😂😂

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On 5/10/2025 at 2:59 PM, macrosszero said:

India operates a large (over 1,800) fleet of aircraft which is as diverse as it is large. They do have American aircraft in their inventory just not fighters - like C-130, C-17 and AH-64E. When you consider their legacy systems originating from Russia, some from French plus domestic, it is a complicated logistics tree. Our neighbor, Indonesia looks to be headed the same way. That being said, the diversity can be viewed in a positive light that not all of their eggs are in one basket like we are.

Their data link likely cannot streamline efficiently. Different models maybe can't talk to each other in the required manner... some Apple some Android😅

Pak J10 J17 and the HQ anti air missiles all using the same command net. ... could make appreciable difference in commanding a fast paced battle. 

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