Accordvtec 1st Gear December 29, 2004 Share December 29, 2004 chim ah..... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear December 29, 2004 Share December 29, 2004 You drive Accord? If yes, front and back suspension needs them or else your tire wear is going to be uneven if you lower your ride plus use of low profile tires. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea3 Neutral Newbie December 30, 2004 Author Share December 30, 2004 So does that mean one must spend more money for the camber kit after spending on, for example, eibachs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear December 30, 2004 Share December 30, 2004 Yes! Unless you want to keep spending money on tires that have been unevenly worn all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic December 30, 2004 Share December 30, 2004 camber can be adjusted when doing the alignment after fitting the springs. mine no unever wear even after 13k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear December 30, 2004 Share December 30, 2004 Most cars cannot adjust the camber. Only the toe can be adjusted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Str2 Neutral Newbie December 30, 2004 Share December 30, 2004 If shorten springs are used, camber angle is changed very slightly and no serious uneven wear (height reduced in 25-30mm).Probably more pronounced tyre wear if height reduction in 60mm range and by then yr car becomes a dragster. Camber Angle and Toe-In/Out are not the same thing. My few peanuts worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea3 Neutral Newbie December 30, 2004 Author Share December 30, 2004 Camber is tilting of the wheel when looking from front wheel, whereas toe is tilting (something like we humans who walk toe-in/out) when looking from top of car, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear December 30, 2004 Share December 30, 2004 I know they are not the same thing. What I am saying is that all cars allow toe adjustment but not all cars allow camber adjustment. In fact most cars don't have camber adjustment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea3 Neutral Newbie December 30, 2004 Author Share December 30, 2004 Yeah, I am trying to figure out the relationship of lowering & the change in camber too.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohlins Neutral Newbie December 30, 2004 Share December 30, 2004 (edited) Is it possible to lower the car without having to change the suspension? get lowering springs lor... Tein Espelir Eibach bear in mind that your camber will be out...tyres will have uneven wear.... i have a set of espelir on a lancer..... a whole world of difference from the original springs........tauter progressive springs and a nicer look...installation includes wheels alignment .. Edited December 30, 2004 by Ohlins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accordvtec 1st Gear December 30, 2004 Share December 30, 2004 did you install camber kit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeobh 4th Gear December 30, 2004 Share December 30, 2004 (edited) Click here http://www.specprod.com/TECH_DIR/C_TECH_SUPPART_FUND_2.HTML#SAI ://http://www.specprod.com/TECH_DIR/C_...UND_2.HTML#SAI ://http://www.specprod.com/TECH_DIR/C_...UND_2.HTML#SAI ://http://www.specprod.com/TECH_DIR/C_...UND_2.HTML#SAI for basic wheel alignment fundamentals Edited December 30, 2004 by Yeobh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accordvtec 1st Gear December 30, 2004 Share December 30, 2004 You drive Accord? If yes, front and back suspension needs them or else your tire wear is going to be uneven if you lower your ride plus use of low profile tires. used to....4 years back... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear January 1, 2005 Share January 1, 2005 Technically speaking, u cannot cut the springs as the first two coils of both ends are for seating the springs.There is a tendency for the springs to dislocate and it's a disaster waiting to happen depending what speed u r driving. It is a no-no.....U hv to get shorten springs. The workshop will tell u its Ok cos they will get money for cutting yr springs. yap, some workshop do that for $$$, I prefer to use Eibach Prokit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Str2 Neutral Newbie January 2, 2005 Share January 2, 2005 Oh, another thing I forgot to add is that when shorten springs are used, some folks recommend that shorten shocks absorbers need to be used for best performance. (if not,standard OEM shocks will be 'pressed' down close to their bottom limit and sometimes bottoms-out under heavy load). If u look at SACHS or BILSTEIN lowering boxed kits, the shorten springs and shocks come as a set). Rgds/Str2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohlins Neutral Newbie January 2, 2005 Share January 2, 2005 if budget is not a prb, the ideal way is to install a complete set of coil over dampers..... about 1k can get quite a good set...... however, spring lowering kits are about half the price.... many ppl have said life span of stock shocks will suffer when lower springs are used. not too sure about that as i have not experienced any bottoming since the springs are in...the springs are progressively wound.....offering a softer rate for a short travel while becoming stiffer as they are compressed more... anyway, i would definitely at least going for the springs......so much better to drive...the stock springs are like.....really crap......far too soft.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear January 2, 2005 Share January 2, 2005 yes, but if you are using those that only lowers about 20 to 30mm (as in Eibach Prokit), you still can use the stock shocks, that is if they are relatively new & not worn out yet, of course the life span of the stock shocks will be reduced however, if you are using those that lowers more than 30mm (as in Eibach Sportline) than you'll need to replace the stock shocks with those after market ones, ie Koni Yellow (sport). SACHS/BILSTEIN suspensions sets do comes with the springs & matching shocks, however, I have friends that find that the shocks of the SACHS Touring suspension kids to have very short life span . OBTW, the springs in SACHS suspension sets are made by Eibach ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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