Jungus 4th Gear February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 your post difficult to understand ... So you did 1 minor servicing - oil and filter change - at some workshop and you think your current engine trouble is a result of that? How you come to that conclusion? Anyway 2 months to go? What's there to think? Book a new car and continue to drive as advised by your regular mechanic... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_biscuit 3rd Gear February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 (edited) Hellos Guys! I owned a 2006 Mazda 3 1.6 Auto and it's due for scrap this coming May. Basically need your great sages opinion. Well, here's what happened (prepare a wall of text) I'm a Singaporean cheapo and one day decided to deviate from my regular car workshop (which I have used them for 4 over years) and decided to try a workshop a friend recommended - a budget (let's just say less than $60 for oil and filter change) servicing at a workshop at AMK Autopoint last month (January) So come mid February, the car starts to get all erratic - first, the aircon got cut off and the car gets a little shaky. Then after that the coolant temperature starts to rise (I'm assuming the damage has been done) and immediately I shut off the engine and let it cool down, after that when driving again, everything seems to be back to normal. So I thought that my a/c had some issues, maybe the a/c fan was not working - brought it to Mark Cool (I doubt I need to censor their name ya?) and got it checked, technician said aircon fan spinning, compressor and switch all ok, aircon nothing wrong, but noticed that my reservoir is dried up. He suspected that my engine may have overheated due to lack of water and asked me to go to my last workshop to seek for advice and at best, do a pressure test. He was kind enough to help me fill up the reservoir full and if the car temperature heats up again, to engage a tow truck this time. So well, I went back to my regular workshop - the first time they did a pressure test and they could not detect the issue (probably due to highway driving) and tried to check for leaks but could not diagnose the issue. So the mechanic there then took it out for a test drive once more and when he came back, he noticed the bubbles are forming inside the coolant tank - everytime he accelerates, there will be bubbles foaming within the tank. So my mechanic (at my regular workshop) then told me that since there's only 2 months left, if I can live with it, he gave me the following options: 1) Try to avoid city areas (where there are a lot of start-stop action) and drive till end of life 2) Scrap the car now, get the PARF + body 3) Repair and replace the entire Valve Cover Gasket, machine the cylinder heads and put it back in place. He will try to do it for under a $1k since I've regularly patronized him (he projected to be labour at around $400+ and the various parts factored in, will cost up to $800-ish). He kind of assured me that the car can last till scrap. He then screwed me up and ask me why I'm being such a cheapo (as you guys may try to screw me again after reading this ) and now even if with such a thing happening, it may be due to wear and tear and not the previous workshop's negligence. So well, I'm stuck in a rut right now - am I able to push the buck back to the other workshop which did my servicing? And what options would you take for the vehicle? TIA! Hi, If you are just doing a normal oil change servicing at the 2nd workshop, there is no link to what is happening to your car now. When the car water temperature rises, the aircon will be cut off. Assuming that there is noting wrong with your radiator fan motor, and your radiator is not leaking; highly suspect it could be your water pump that is faulty or a stucked thermostat. There is no link to whatever valve cover gasket to be replaced etc. Changing the valve cover gasket or machine the cylinder heads have totally nothing to do with overheating issue like yours. Screw that mechanic back might as well change engine better right!!?? Yours is a cooling system issue, not engine issue that cause the rise in water temperature. Suggest you head to another workshop for 2nd opinion. If indeed is water pump issue which requires a lot of labour, probably total about $400 on average, you will decide if it's worth to change or scrap your car early. Edited February 28, 2016 by Mr_biscuit 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronIIoxide 2nd Gear February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 Hi, If you are just doing a normal oil change servicing at the 2nd workshop, there is no link to what is happening to your car now. When the car water temperature rises, the aircon will be cut off. Assuming that there is noting wrong with your radiator fan motor, and your radiator is not leaking; highly suspect it could be your water pump that is faulty or a stucked thermostat. There is no link to whatever valve cover gasket to be replaced etc. Changing the valve cover gasket or machine the cylinder heads have totally nothing to do with overheating issue like yours. Screw that mechanic back might as well change engine better right!!?? Yours is a cooling system issue, not engine issue that cause the rise in water temperature. Suggest you head to another workshop for 2nd opinion. If indeed is water pump issue which requires a lot of labour, probably total about $400 on average, you will decide if it's worth to change or scrap your car early. Top tip! your post difficult to understand ... So you did 1 minor servicing - oil and filter change - at some workshop and you think your current engine trouble is a result of that? How you come to that conclusion? Anyway 2 months to go? What's there to think? Book a new car and continue to drive as advised by your regular mechanic... Because I trace it back to the fact that I have changed the water pump at my regular workshop (as recommended by them) and it should last for quite a while. The last I changed was when I took over from the last owner, around 2 years ago. I'm just not sure if it is their obligation to do a car check as my regular workshop does it after oil change (i.e.: brakes, leaks etc.), my assumption is that could they have accidentally fiddled with the systems to cause it to overheat? Call me a paranoia, but I do rule out some possibilities. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jungus 4th Gear February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 maybe. But old car like that 101 possibilities. Really not worth the brain and muscle cells chasing this down, imo. You got a car that has lasted 9 yrs and 10 months without anything major, you lucky boy! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twcherng Neutral Newbie February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 hi, can any one advise what is the CEVS rebate or CO2 emission (g/km) for the hybrid model? any difference btw hybrid X and Z model? TIA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronIIoxide 2nd Gear February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 maybe. But old car like that 101 possibilities. Really not worth the brain and muscle cells chasing this down, imo. You got a car that has lasted 9 yrs and 10 months without anything major, you lucky boy! Hiaz, as much as I would like to, if given the ability to turn back time, I shouldnt have scrimped on the servicing fee and just let my regular workshop do the job. Probably my car will be in good hands and the overheating issue wouldnt have occurred. They would probably advise me to change certain parts and I could have saved my current headache... But as my regular workshop mentioned, it could be a wear and tear issue, so it would only be a baseless case if I were to go back to the other workshop to flip table... Maybe have to get 2nd opinion first ba :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jungus 4th Gear February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 Seems like you wanna keep the car? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_biscuit 3rd Gear February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 Top tip! Because I trace it back to the fact that I ohave changed the water pump at my regular workshop (as recommended by them) and it should last for quite a while. The last I changed was when I took over from the last owner, around 2 years ago. I'm just not sure if it is their obligation to do a car check as my regular workshop does it after oil change (i.e.: brakes, leaks etc.), my assumption is that could they have accidentally fiddled with the systems to cause it to overheat? Call me a paranoia, but I do rule out some possibilities. Chill. If there is anything that the 2ND workshop has done to cause this, you would have experienced this overheating issue almost immediately after you have collected your ride. Pls do also recount back the credibility of your first workshop's assessment. Suggest you should avoid this workshop too. Just my 2 cents worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minsanity 2nd Gear February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 Top tip! Because I trace it back to the fact that I have changed the water pump at my regular workshop (as recommended by them) and it should last for quite a while. The last I changed was when I took over from the last owner, around 2 years ago. I'm just not sure if it is their obligation to do a car check as my regular workshop does it after oil change (i.e.: brakes, leaks etc.), my assumption is that could they have accidentally fiddled with the systems to cause it to overheat? Call me a paranoia, but I do rule out some possibilities. I think cooling system just wasn't bled right & completely. Simple neglect can lead to throbbing headaches.:( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronIIoxide 2nd Gear February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 Seems like you wanna keep the car?Yup, as much as I would like to, I willl want to keep the car as I so a lot of running outside... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyngps 5th Gear February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 I mean waiting for COE price to drop, this current ride to hit 6 mths and scrap this car. I booked in Apr last year, got coe at May, but only got ride end Nov.I see bro. 6 months is still horrendous! Hi all, just gotten my Vezel X for a few days and it's been great so far~ Am trying to find this hard tonneau with half of it that can be easily lifted up. Anyone knows where around has it available? Thanks! Try taobao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grhu8175 Neutral Newbie February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 Hi All Not sure if it's right to ask here but why does Vezel X price (with roughly same COE packages) differs so much across PIs? I'm seeing btw 88k - 100+k.. Anybody has a reliable PI to reco and what price should be reasonable considering the 43k COE? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpmf1978 Neutral Newbie February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 hi guys, need to consult you all. how often do you all top up the battery water? i open up and see after 2 weeks. i still can see water but cant really tell at which level. mine is a panasonic battery, can see there is a guage high and low in front, however cannot see the water level front outside. can i top up the distilled water to the brim or at which level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gensity 1st Gear February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 Huh vezel battery need to top up water? Tot topping up water is a super old model? Pardon me.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans912 Neutral Newbie February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 The more electronics you have on your car , the more power it consume. Although these enhances features are NICE to have , it can also give you a lot of problems if the electronics is not reliable. Just SIMPLY ENJOY THE RIDE. The car by itself has already a lot of electronics built in... thanks for your reply. your point is exactly same as my initial thought when I decided not to install it. Manually?BTW I read on jap Vezel spec. There is something like remote contol side mirror. Do we have those here? yes, have to press one button to fold, I don't have remote control, this is the 1st time to hear about it. Bro Hans912, You can install at http://sggarage.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=98&products_id=687 Thanks Jason, it is the same price as my PI quoted me when I asked to install the autofolding, it seems nobody complained of the auto folding. I will consider to install it since my 1k service will come soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans912 Neutral Newbie February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 just now searched the EO topics in the forum, some suggested w20 same as honda's instruction, some said w40 since SG is too hot, some liked w30 as it is in between, I am confused what EO to be used for my 1k servicing, any suggestions?thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpmf1978 Neutral Newbie February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 Huh vezel battery need to top up water? Tot topping up water is a super old model? Pardon me.. Yes it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpmf1978 Neutral Newbie February 28, 2016 Share February 28, 2016 just now searched the EO topics in the forum, some suggested w20 same as honda's instruction, some said w40 since SG is too hot, some liked w30 as it is in between, I am confused what EO to be used for my 1k servicing, any suggestions?thanks. I think in the end, most of the people advise go somewhere in between which is ow30. I am also going for my 1 k serving soon. I called up my PI workshop for ask for the price and EO they are using. They are all using OW40. But if i bring my own EO, warranty will be void. Do you think i should find other reputable workshop bring my own EO, dun care abt the warranty Or just stick to the PI workshop but using OW40. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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