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Hi, Am interested to get a 2nd hand Alfa 156. How do you all find the car? Owners please share. Maintenance wise? I understand that there are a few variants of engine, please advise. And how much would the depreciation for this car be? Comments: 1) Performance 2) Handling 3) Ride 4) Fun factor 5) Maintenance/Reliability

I don't know how many over here has this problem with selespeed. My ride has been having this problem with jerking gerarbox when moving off from 1st gear since 3 months after I got my ride. Agent has changed Clutch Assembly and Trottle Body, thinking that could be due to these areas of problems. Spent $2500 already. But still jerking very badly. The car practically hops and n a bang sound is heard all throughout the day and night. No one in Agent side has so far been able to solve the problem. What shall I do? Frustrated that I spending alot of good money on bad stuff. Car practically un-drivable. Changing car is not realy a good option as I'm stuck with a top up. Get a full repalcement car?

Today been to test drive both cars briefly. Below are my personal thoughts on the 2 cars. Exterior: Its something very subjective, but both cars have just what it takes to make me take a 2nd or 3rd or 4th ....look at them should I encounter any on the road. Interior: Both the Bravo's & 147's interior looks futuristic with very good fit & finish, instruments are very well laid out & designed for great ease of use, however, the 147's interior seems more sophisticated with all the sexy curves smartly planted within the car. The red speedometers & illuminators the 147 is simply wicked The drive: Road holding around corners is especially good on both cars, however, the Alfa 147 still feels moreplanted during aggresive cornering. Perhaps it might partly be due to the rims. The bravo is running on stock 16" steel rims as opposed to the 147's 17" sports rims. One thing I like particularly about the Bravo is the small turning radius. Perfect car for doing illegal U-turns The steering on the Bravo somehow feels lighter than the 147, even at speed . This might not be a good idea if you are those that likes to break the legal speed limit along NS highway. However, parking with the Bravo is simply Coming to road noise, this is where the Bravo really excels. The cabin is very well insulated against the road & engine noise. While driving at more civil speeds (or RPM The moment you slam on the pedal from 2500RPM onwards, the car will just shoot off with the engine pulling very lustily punctuated by a sweet engine note that is very similar to the 147, except it is not as bassy and before you know it, the engine RPM is already knocking off the rev limiter at 6000rpm ...a little too soon compared to the 147. Nevertheless, both the 147 and Bravo have very beefy and linear torque from 3000 to the redline range. Although so much has been said about how good the Selespeed is as it is being used in the F1 cars, I still prefer the good 'ol manual system found the Bravo (its 6 Speed!). Probably, I'm not very used to the paddle shifting on the 147 whereby it will take slightly under 1 second for responding to each tap with a slight jerk. Verdict: On paper, the performance specs for the Bravo looks better than the 147 as its max torque comes in at under 2500 RPM! However, as all the Alfistis know...The sting of the "serpent" is very deadly My heart will say "Give me an Alfa". My wallet would pull me back to reality and point towards the Bravo. Though I'd choose the 147 anytime over the Bravo, but it does not mean Bravo is inferior. Its just that the andrenaline sucker side of me will prefer the rough, deep & ecstatic note of the engine coupled with the wild handling of the 147. Perhaps, if I'm as blessed as some of the forumers here with a 6 figure annual salary, I'd get the very comfortable, executive & classy looking Bravo for commuting on the weekdays, blowing off pesky taxi drivers with the massive torque on tap, and the 147 for some weekend fun

Anyone go down and take a look? The GT is less than 100k............

Hi, is there any review on the Alfa 159 Selespeed ? I understand that there are reviews on the manual version, but could not the reviews for the selespeed version.

Singapore have a Class 3A licence. So if the person only have Class 3A, can he drive a AMT (Automated Manual Transmission) gear box car? Basically the car have a manual gear box but below are the catch: 1. It has no clutch (so is it consider an Auto car?) 2. If it on a slight slop even with 1st gear, it will still roll back (true auto car do not roll back) SO the debate is can a class 3A licence holder officially drive these type of cars? I think this discussion would be interesting.

Every gadget the Alfa uses now starts with Q. http://www.alfaromeo.co.uk/cgi-bin/pbrand....tOID=1074093710

guys, am really have the itch for this car... now doing more research till i head down to test drive the car. anyone here own a 147?

Heard about the Astra MTA (manual transmission auto) gearbox having some problems with either hardware (actuator) or software related....... even for pretty new cars! http://groups.msn.com/SingaporeOpelOwner/a...555233448083380 i knew the earlier Corsa had problems with the gearbox, but didn't expect it in the new Astra. It doesn't happen to the fully auto 1.8 though. also heard that the Selespeed has reliability problems.... Any feedback? Are such gearbox unreliable and it is better for us to stick to fully manual or fully auto/tiptronic ?

I seem to see on the net that many alfa owners in eu/us are dragged to the side of the road many times due to problems with the selespeed system. Can any alfa owners enlighten mi on whats going on? Are these happening to u pple?