Kingcopa 1st Gear September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 Well they dun need a gun to do so. Dun u agree, they have the most powerful weapon, peer pressure. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weichien Clutched September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 yea it's friday night. must relax abit. good day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fels 4th Gear September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 Precisely. You are right. No one can force anyone to give. Offering is given out of own free will. God don't need a posh church nor money. What good does a posh church or money do for him? absolutely nothing. He only wants obedience from his people. Free will is given to everybody including his believers. You want to give or not let the believer answer to God. No one on Earth can psycho anyone to give. Whoever psycho anyone to give will answer to God himself. God can feed 5000 with 2 fish and 5 roti. Tell the winds and storms to shut up. Powerful league of Demons beg God not to torture them. And eventually God can turn himself into a man and die for the world. What can a posh mansion and lots of money do for God who's capable of these? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weichien Clutched September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 yes. all those posh thing are extenal. and in my beliefs. all this things are ok. it's okay to drive a 745 live a big house. but christians mst remember that all this are from God and without God they are nothing. with God they are everything. christians are just manager of their wealth and it's just ok for them to give alot to the church. have a friend who is in options who is a muti millionaire. who often give to like 100k to the church. he tells me. what i am today is all about my God. if God can give me $ at 1st i believe he can do it the 2nd and 3rd time. he can get money to me he can also get money throught me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weichien Clutched September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 that is the ritual for the church to pass the offering bag around. and if there is non believer most likely it will offend them as they think that the church just want our money. but God don't need our money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiphiphoray 6th Gear September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 Wah...bro u beri the eng lei. Can talk non-stop from morning until now. Hmmmm...same as me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weichien Clutched September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 can. mcf nice place talk ma. in office. work cum talk mah. relieve stress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcopa 1st Gear September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 GOD dun need but the pastors need right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weichien Clutched September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 they also need funds to run the church just like any other organization Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcopa 1st Gear September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 Again it is their choice. GOD did not ask them to do it so lavishly but yet they chose to do so. Something really doubt their real intention of doing so. Is it realli on behalf of GOD or themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 (edited) hey i'm not judging. and i'm not from any mega churches in sg either.just friendly talk. not arguing. no point making my views acecptable also here. not trying to either. Since you're not from megachurches then no need to be so defensive. The posts here is generally about mega church and not on the christianity.. I'm a christian, and I seriously find the practice of those megachurches uncormfortble. Edited September 21, 2007 by Ender Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curahee 1st Gear September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 since He create man. he also give men orders? but it's our choice if we exercise it anot. and he do not give his people everything they ask for like a parents do not spoonfeed his child everything he ask for.i often say "God i want a new car, a new car, a condo" but God doesn't do it my way. he do it his way. Like what my friend did to me, he need calculator for exam, i happen to bring an extra one and lend him. In stead of thanking me he thank his God. One of my friend in a rush, i offer him a ride, in stead of thanking me again, he thank god. Its not that i want him to thank me, i juz feel tat something is wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weichien Clutched September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 i think it's ok as long as it's a bible believing church. what if 1 day yr church becomes a mega church famous and well known. and get such treatment ? there's nth wrong with megachurches. it's just like a 1.6 and a 3.5L. there's nth wrong too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavver 4th Gear September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 (edited) Sometime i feel that singaporean dunnoe what is religon practise... Pray for good health pray for $$$ that is... they dunnoe wat is the different beyween buddhist or taoist... every 1st and 15th lunar month got eat vegetian can liao .. no in depth knowledge . Talking about Catholic ... "Hail Mary full of grace, Thy Lord is with you~" Everybody is singing praying so gracefully and peacefully !!! Period. After the mass, outside the church carpark ... Edited September 21, 2007 by Cavver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_blade Turbocharged September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 Maybe your friend just got so used to saying 'thank God'...just like some who like to say 'oh my God', etc... Don't get too bother about it lah...unless your friend is the selfish and ungrateful type... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_blade Turbocharged September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 You have pointed out some interesting points. It's true that our general population doesn't know much or want to know much about their believe. A lot of what they believe are hear-say, which may not be 100% wrong....but no one will know for sure unless they make an effort to read and understand it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe 3rd Gear September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 i am not sure whether it's the norm for them to preach.. but once i attend some Christian's christmas dinner in our northern neighbour('conned' by my friend) and they begin singing to the god and blah blah, no one try to convert or preach me luckily.. and they respect me as a buddhist as a respect for them and their religion, I wait for them to end their before-makan prayer and preach even though they say it's okay for me to start first.. i think there's a general view here that preaching is disrespecting one's religion. Preaching is one of the key aspects of Christianity and Christians should preach and share about their faith. i think some may feel disrespected cos some Christians preach in an offensive way. Actually preaching is harmless, just like credit card companies calling u to offer deals. if we don't like, just listen and thanks but no thanks. That's about it. To deny Christians the chance to preach is in a way disrespecting their religion. In fact, if u look carefully, Christians promote freedom. which religion in SG allows u to film movies, books that offend it? there's so much literature, music out there that blatantly slams the gospel. Christians share the gospel, but at the same time recognising it can only be done on a free will. There's never force involved. if there ever is, that's a cult. If someone wants to share, if u don't wana hear, kindly turn him down. He is not trying to disrespect yr faith. If not, listen to what he has to say and decide for yrself. That way, u can understand his religion more. For myself, i do not shun my muslim friends who sometimes tell me about their religion. in fact, i understand their responses and views better and that's really useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weichien Clutched September 21, 2007 Share September 21, 2007 agree on your point. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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