Vtim 3rd Gear January 9, 2009 Share January 9, 2009 (edited) not too sure how real it is but u can goggle "hp venture russia", most like a company name with F would appear and go find our more about this company if you r free.... .. i seriously hope it is not true because if it does happen, many local SME company here would be affected with no more business from them is what i predict....... nah, I don't think the F will aquire the whole of HP, maybe the PSG (Psersonal System Group) - PC/Notebooks portion, just like IBM have off loaded their PC/Notebook to Lenovo. My guess is HP will keep the Printer and Mainframe Group. As for the Mainframe, these are not consumer products that you can buy off the shelf, the sales cycle is very long, sometimes about more than 1year when you deal with Gahment accounts and lots of after sales support. Edited January 9, 2009 by Vtim ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackyv Turbocharged January 9, 2009 Share January 9, 2009 nah, I don't think the F will aquire the whole of HP, maybe the PSG (Psersonal System Group) - PC/Notebooks portion, just like IBM have off loaded their PC/Notebook to Lenova. HP still have the Printer and Mainframe Group. As for the Mainframe, these are not consumer products that you can buy off the shelf, the sales cycle is very long, sometimes about more than 1year when you deal with Gahment accounts and lots of after sales support. umm.. ...make sense.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear January 9, 2009 Share January 9, 2009 umm.. ...make sense.... PC/Notebooks profit margin is always at the thinnest as compare to Mainframe computers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoon Turbocharged January 9, 2009 Share January 9, 2009 i've got few friends in hp... it seems like instead of retrenching its using other tricks in the book so exits seem 'voluntary'. the numbers leaving are not small Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syshi Neutral Newbie January 9, 2009 Share January 9, 2009 Heard that HP been cutting people since last year... affected Vancouver, San Diego and Singapore... Similarly in Venture, heard that around 500-1000 whole Singapore... all 'cut' unofficially... just ask them to leave... some with reason of 'Poor Performance' without any 'golden handshake'... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramega 1st Gear January 9, 2009 Share January 9, 2009 nah, I don't think the F will aquire the whole of HP, maybe the PSG (Psersonal System Group) - PC/Notebooks portion, just like IBM have off loaded their PC/Notebook to Lenovo. My guess is HP will keep the Printer and Mainframe Group. As for the Mainframe, these are not consumer products that you can buy off the shelf, the sales cycle is very long, sometimes about more than 1year when you deal with Gahment accounts and lots of after sales support. I thought Mainframe is IBM's product?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendstar Supercharged January 9, 2009 Share January 9, 2009 there are affected..... i've been hearing they axe people many mths back in batches, weekly..... .. also happening at their Vancouver, san Diego and Corvallis sites if im not wrong or perhaps "reshuffling" resources is the word they use........ i also heard unconfirmed rumor one giant taiwanese company is buying hp... HP IS ALWAYS RETRENCHING PEOPLE mark hurd thinks its fun to axe people. he's too much of an operations guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendstar Supercharged January 9, 2009 Share January 9, 2009 Anymore, besides the above mentioned company???? hopefully i don't start seeing names like "MOE, MINDEF" etc it'll really wreck my nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longg8 Clutched January 9, 2009 Share January 9, 2009 i think ppl who post the coy name here needs to differentiate 'retrenchment' and 'fired due to unsatisfactory performance'. i work for one of the coy listed and no, there is not retrenchment. ppl sacked due to unsatisfactory performance, yes.. =) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Turbocharged January 9, 2009 Share January 9, 2009 HP IS ALWAYS RETRENCHING PEOPLE mark hurd thinks its fun to axe people. he's too much of an operations guy. actually retrenchment 'fun' started with carley fiorina...this thing wasn't heard of before she came on board... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhihao 1st Gear January 9, 2009 Share January 9, 2009 nah, I don't think the F will aquire the whole of HP, maybe the PSG (Psersonal System Group) - PC/Notebooks portion, just like IBM have off loaded their PC/Notebook to Lenovo. My guess is HP will keep the Printer and Mainframe Group. As for the Mainframe, these are not consumer products that you can buy off the shelf, the sales cycle is very long, sometimes about more than 1year when you deal with Gahment accounts and lots of after sales support. R u aware how huge PSG is and how much revenue it's generating for HP? HP did 118billion for fy08, $42.3 billion, or 35.7 percent, is from PSG. PSG is generating a lot of business and i dun see why hp will ever sell it. If HP takes the IBM route, then it will lose it's key advantage of being a true end to end provider. Fyi HP does not sell mainframe, in today's context, mainframe is an IBM thing. HP has mainframe replacements that delivers better availability with lower total cost of ownership (TCO). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lufu 1st Gear January 9, 2009 Share January 9, 2009 alot of other kind of retrenchments are going on..... bosses can make staff feel so bad that staff just automatically resign. bosses can issue warning letters to staff for small mistakes so that staff can automatically resign bosses can make staff feel lousy in doing some lousy jobs that staff can automatically resign so many ways to 'retrench' staff without paying benefits... damm bloody smelly ways of axing ppl.... All these are not reported in media. So the figures are very very high.... Seen it with my own eye. Manager of a team was "demoted" and made to report to one of the team member who used to work under him. LL after you a few months this manager automatically resign. Furthermore this is a Govt Stat board that I'm talking about. Dirty underhand method but hey this is Singapore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackyv Turbocharged January 10, 2009 Share January 10, 2009 Heard that HP been cutting people since last year... affected Vancouver, San Diego and Singapore... Similarly in Venture, heard that around 500-1000 whole Singapore... all 'cut' unofficially... just ask them to leave... some with reason of 'Poor Performance' without any 'golden handshake'... as far as i know, venture go with "contract" basis kind of employment for quite sometimes already and those "cut" are mostly contract, so, technically speaking, they are not retrenching... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacf Neutral Newbie January 10, 2009 Share January 10, 2009 hopefully i don't start seeing names like "MOE, MINDEF" etc it'll really wreck my nerves Relaxed, recently a minister has mentioned that the health, education and home affairs are on hiring spree! so i guess there should be no retrenchments in these sectors.. but there are still ppl asked to leave due to 'unsatisfactorily' performance (small nos), so these are technically not considered as retrenchments. i think in such trying times , one had better be more on the ball, or risk being replaced by better and cheaper ppl waiting outside! even the only broadcaster in Sg is implementing shorter work week.. those cannot tahan will automatically say bye bye! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedsun Clutched January 10, 2009 Share January 10, 2009 Relaxed, recently a minister has mentioned that the health, education and home affairs are on hiring spree! so i guess there should be no retrenchments in these sectors.. but there are still ppl asked to leave due to 'unsatisfactorily' performance (small nos), so these are technically not considered as retrenchments. i think in such trying times , one had better be more on the ball, or risk being replaced by better and cheaper ppl waiting outside! even the only broadcaster in Sg is implementing shorter work week.. those cannot tahan will automatically say bye bye! Mediaco*k should cut 50% salary of those so-so acting so call Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear January 11, 2009 Share January 11, 2009 i've got few friends in hp... it seems like instead of retrenching its using other tricks in the book so exits seem 'voluntary'. the numbers leaving are not small that's always one of the tricks, just re-assign something that is not your expertise and set high demand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear January 11, 2009 Share January 11, 2009 Heard that HP been cutting people since last year... affected Vancouver, San Diego and Singapore... Similarly in Venture, heard that around 500-1000 whole Singapore... all 'cut' unofficially... just ask them to leave... some with reason of 'Poor Performance' without any 'golden handshake'... IMO, it will be more than the official figures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear January 11, 2009 Share January 11, 2009 I thought Mainframe is IBM's product?? Mainframe is just a catagory of computer system, Mainframe being the biggest follow by Mini then by Micro Computers. Micro is what you are using now, PC & Notebook. There are other Mainframe makers, for Japs like Hitachi, NEC, Fujitsu.. there used to be other Euro makers last time but all being bought over or die of natural death, ICL (International Computers Limited) was once the biggest Mainframe maker in UK, they were bought over by Fujitsu in the early 90's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe_computer ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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