Drive_carcar Clutched April 21, 2009 Share April 21, 2009 When I was seeking opinion from peers and businessmen on the thought to run my own business, 99% asked me not to try particularly at such economic climate. It is normal, our culture is not a risk-taking one. The feeling of being your own boss is great! but come with a price. Wish you all the best . Regards, Thanks bro! Every opinion, for and against, I also appreciate from the bottom of my heart. This forum is a great community, because most of the opinions I see are really with the audiences best interest at heart, based on the writer's personal experience. Yes, I'll be taking a huge risk, from a stable and well paying job to the unknown. I could end up broke, but could also end up successful beyond my wildest imagination. I guess risk takers and successful people are optimists. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beehive3783 Turbocharged April 21, 2009 Share April 21, 2009 something to that effect lo..but got a nicer name to it... male escort? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear April 21, 2009 Share April 21, 2009 Taking on a new job is not just abt the money...there are myriad of factors also that affect like 1. Settling in to the co, and the culture. Some ppl think they got the better deal but when they go over, they are unable to adjust and thus leave. Ig you are comfortable in the current position, ask yourself, is comfort you want? Are you contented? 2. Salary is one thing, but look at the perks of both, and as a Country Mgr, you are on your way to stepping further. Is this what you want or are you prepared to take a back seat and be happy as a mgr? Also, HR might not view non-ambitious ppl favourably. 3. Travel. Does this take you away from your family? You yearn to have daily meals w them at home? Another consideration. Remember, when the cards turn, the family will always be there. Jobs, ptuiiii....there is no such loyalty These are teh 3 topmost on my mind......think it over carefully...and when it comes to the crux, toss a dice and decide....hahahahah toss a coin give you a more accurate and defined outcome. 2 side vs 6 side (then there's the big, small, odd v even).. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgnick 1st Gear April 21, 2009 Share April 21, 2009 Do compare job stability, the company stability, the job scope, and is the pay increase significant. Also, are you happy in your current job? If u r already unhappy with your current job, then jump. Do you forsee a big increase in workload and working hours? Compare it to your pay rise, is it still worth it to jump? I personally don't really see from comfortable working hours jump to working no day no night as a good enough reason for a slight pay rise, but if a huge payrise then different story. Do you forsee a long and stable career in the new company with little chance of retrenchment or company folding in near future? These are primary factors I would consider first if for myself. Position low or high is secondary consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic April 21, 2009 Share April 21, 2009 Now at a cross junction...not sure which way to move..... Was offered a job with lower position (a working manager position, no one report to you) in the organisation but higher monthly pay and better benefit....compare to current position of country manager which has more control power and people reporting to you.....'' under one man but above many people'' so which one will you choose? You should take the lower position only if you are very good at what you do. If you are not then I would stick to the country manager position! Telling people what to do is always better than doing it yourself esp if you do not know what you are doing - like me! Let your subs take the crap for screwing up! Cheers to management! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pentium 1st Gear April 21, 2009 Share April 21, 2009 Now at a cross junction...not sure which way to move..... Was offered a job with lower position (a working manager position, no one report to you) in the organisation but higher monthly pay and better benefit....compare to current position of country manager which has more control power and people reporting to you.....'' under one man but above many people'' so which one will you choose? I can be a road sweeper if the job pays me $30k a mth, who gives a damn about title and power Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear April 21, 2009 Share April 21, 2009 I can be a road sweeper if the job pays me $30k a mth, who gives a damn about title and power Where got $30k monthly for a road sweeper, you can keep dreaming . Even for 2K, I think we do not have shortage of FT rushing for the job . Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friedpiggy 2nd Gear April 21, 2009 Share April 21, 2009 $30 per day also may not get . Our dear FT's costs less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear April 22, 2009 Share April 22, 2009 and u should ask around in detail what the job has for u, the company/assignment's reputation, so on...ppl late 30s to 40s ain't young leow.. can't afford to keep switching if job is not suitable. 40s is break or die stage, considering one only has say, 10 more years worth of working capability. At this age, must seriously think about retirement plans liao. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear April 22, 2009 Share April 22, 2009 Thanks bro! Every opinion, for and against, I also appreciate from the bottom of my heart. This forum is a great community, because most of the opinions I see are really with the audiences best interest at heart, based on the writer's personal experience. Yes, I'll be taking a huge risk, from a stable and well paying job to the unknown. I could end up broke, but could also end up successful beyond my wildest imagination. I guess risk takers and successful people are optimists. Actually, beside businessmen, Non-Executive Directors can be very well paid. Just attend meeting and still earning decent income. You just need open your mouth to talk and you don't worry about operational matters. My ex-bosses in their 50s, all gone into directorship. Good for retirement too if don't mind to travel. Of course, this one, you need good network, excellent track records and business acumen. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilmateng Neutral Newbie April 27, 2009 Share April 27, 2009 MONEY! i think thats most important as the next job you change, your new company will offer you based on your last drawn pay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Application9999 Clutched April 28, 2009 Author Share April 28, 2009 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.............SO CONFUSE.......still don't know which to go for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!sian man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilmateng Neutral Newbie April 28, 2009 Share April 28, 2009 i think u should ask those people doing ur kind of job or in the kind of industry. preferably ask the HR's hiring practice. if they always see ur last drawn pay to give ur offer, money is definitely more impt lah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary84 1st Gear April 28, 2009 Share April 28, 2009 for me...higher pay job anytime... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kianbeng Clutched April 28, 2009 Share April 28, 2009 Bro, don't worry I'm with you too. My circumstances is similar ..... still wondering if it's better to be a small fry at a big company (current) or a bigger fry at a smaller company. Previously I was in a small firm but with a position with autonomy, power, travel opportunities, $$$. But I believed so much in myself and I thought if I'm really that good and still young, I'ld have alot of opportunities to climb up the ladder in a bigger company too. So I took the risk, took a big pay cut, came to a company about 100x bigger than my previous company. But now it's really "Welcome to the real world". I saw so much politics struggles, daily fire fighting, back stabbing, and I now realised the path upwards is so ridiculously difficult in here. And many a times I regretted my decision and wanted to just give up, be a quitter and go back to one of those smaller firms. I also made the mistake of taking up a smaller role in a big company. Due to my previous overseas exposure and experience, I had so much experience (or grievances) to share with colleagues on the way we do business in the big company. But I soon realised that my views aren't always appreciated. It could be due to my position or maybe the "seniority" thing. And where's the motivation for my bosses to listen to me? Nobody likes changes, nobody likes someone who rocks the boat. I'm also in a real dilemma given the current economic climate on my next move. I definitely do not want to be projected as a job hopper but the current situation is something I really hate to see myself doing. Looking back positively, I thought I have given myself a chance to explore and you never know whats there in life for you. Maybe it's really for the better? ie easy for me to go to a small firm from here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robo 2nd Gear April 28, 2009 Share April 28, 2009 (edited) after thinking of of it i think it better to choose the one with more prospects. i was considering between 2 offers last week.. but in the end the 2nd co. match the offer and the prospects is better thou the other is nearer. in the end i travel a little more but better satisfaction and prospect Edited April 28, 2009 by Robo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventin Neutral Newbie April 29, 2009 Share April 29, 2009 An advice from a success guru that i can share with you: always choose a job for what you can learn, not what you can earn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surferguy1978 1st Gear April 29, 2009 Share April 29, 2009 (edited) An advice from a success guru that i can share with you: always choose a job for what you can learn, not what you can earn. agree with you. with passion in the things you do, you will excel and subsequently you will be rewarded. if you are young, still can do that. if above 40s, really need to think hard before changing. Edited April 29, 2009 by Surferguy1978 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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